Kamala Harris’ Totalitarianism

Steven Greenhut: California Attorney General Kamala Harris and her union allies no doubt have amused themselves at the way they destroyed a proposed pension reform initiative by giving it a false and unfair title, but what Harris did is one of the most despicable acts I’ve seen in government in a while. Harris runs the Justice Department, yet she chose to wield her power to help her political allies and harm her opponents by posting a blatantly dishonest title. This is a totalitarian approach. If there is no semblance of fairness in the Justice Department, then all we are left with is the exercise of raw political power. Fear a society in which people like Harris rule the roost. Actually, we’re already in that society.

Feb. 13, 2012

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  1. CalWatchdog
    CalWatchdog Author 13 February, 2012, 10:38

    That just means the whole rotten system will implode faster. I can’t wait.

    — John Seiler

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  2. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 13 February, 2012, 11:52

    Don’t put too much blame on Kamala. She’s just a tool who follows orders. Don’t expect her to protect your rights or to exhibit ‘fairness’. That’s not her role. You’ll only end up disappointed.

    Call the Tea Party. I bet they’ll raise hell. 😀

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  3. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 13 February, 2012, 16:05

    The Tea Party and OWS are the ones making waves.

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  4. Rogue Elephant
    Rogue Elephant 13 February, 2012, 16:45

    Kamala Harris is vile and despicable.

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  5. Bob
    Bob 13 February, 2012, 17:24

    Can you imagine what things will be like when she becomes governor???

    It will prolly be her or pretty boy Gavin. Pick yer poison.

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  6. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 13 February, 2012, 17:53

    “The Tea Party and OWS are the ones making waves”

    The Tea Party has been morphed into the mainstream Republican Party and has been rendered impotent. Worthless. All talk, no action.

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  7. SkippingDog
    SkippingDog 13 February, 2012, 18:20

    I’m still waiting to see some evidence that the title and description provided by the AG’s office for these initiatives was demonstrably false in any way. It appears much more likely that the promoters and their cheerleaders, like Greenhut here, are trying to jawbone away their own failure with more deceptive claims.

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  8. queeg
    queeg 13 February, 2012, 22:41

    Anyone who joins a political group is a loser….you lose voice and dollars to operative hacks….best way to win starve em all out.

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  9. Bob
    Bob 13 February, 2012, 23:01

    Don’t worry Doggy, next year the Repos will be completely impotent, totally irrelevant when the Dems get their two-thirds majority.

    You will get everything you want and more. And if there is a state left when Kramula becomes governor you’ll get even more but it may not be quite what you expect.

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  10. SkippingDog
    SkippingDog 14 February, 2012, 00:39

    I met Kamala when she was the DA in SF and am fairly confident her personal career sights are set somewhere other than the Governor’s office of our fine state.

    As to your prediction about the Democrats getting a two-thirds majority next year, I’m certainly optimistic but recognize it was my own Democratic party that taught contemporary Republicans how to form a circular firing squad.

    As Will Rogers used to say, I don’t belong to any organized political party; I’m a Democrat.

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  11. Sean Morham
    Sean Morham 14 February, 2012, 15:43

    Kamala or her heirs in power will meet the same fate as the Farmer Generals in late 18th centery France. It may take a long time, but the day will come. That is not a good thing, but if we can t get this mess unraveled…..those days will arrive, and the aftermath to fix the mess will be unsettling.

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  12. Charles Nichols
    Charles Nichols 14 February, 2012, 18:05

    I’m currently suing her in a Federal Civil Rights lawsuit to overturn California’s ban on openly carrying a loaded firearm in public.

    Her frivolous motion to dismiss (filed in lieu of an answer) is hilarious. She claims that I have no business telling California what to do and that she shouldn’t be named in the lawsuit (even though California law requires her to be named as a defendant). She also claims that the Eleventh Amendment prohibits me from seeking to overturn a California statute.

    Did I mention that her motion to dismiss is frivolous?

    http://CaliforniaRightToCarry.org

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  13. SkippingDog
    SkippingDog 15 February, 2012, 00:30

    Be especially nice to the Department of Justice agents who come to your home and ask you just what you mean by your comment, Sean. I’m sure they’ll appreciate an explanation.

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  14. Tough Love
    Tough Love 15 February, 2012, 06:03

    Skippy, Who was it (Margarette Thatcher ?) who said …”Eventually you run out of other people’s money”. While perhaps you have saved enough to not materially be hurt by a pension system failure, what about the vast mast majority of your colleagues who (do to the bought & paid for politician’s refusal to fully & appropriately address pension form) will be devastated by the eventual system collapse?

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  15. SkippingDog
    SkippingDog 15 February, 2012, 10:01

    So what point are you trying to make, TL? That because you believe every government pension system will eventually fail any attempts to change them to a circumstance more to your personal taste should be uncritically accepted, regardless of its accuracy, honesty, or legality?

    That’s simply preposterous. It’s certainly nothing you or Greenhut would accept if it applied to your own interests.

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  16. Marcia
    Marcia 15 February, 2012, 11:39

    It looks like Harris is in Wall Street’s pocket even more than the unions’.

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  17. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 15 February, 2012, 14:25

    “It looks like Harris is in Wall Street’s pocket even more than the unions'”

    It’s Wall Street that bankrolls the pols and makes gov deficit spending possible. Of course she’s in Wall Street’s pockets. All of them are. That’s the reason Wall Street wasn’t punished for bringing down the entire global economy. In fact, WS was rewarded for it!!! This isn’t that hard to figure out. I have no idea why so many people are acting so stupid and don’t get it.

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  18. Tough Love
    Tough Love 15 February, 2012, 16:17

    Skippy, The POINT is that whether you like it or not, without huge increases in taxes (which simply WILL NOT happen) the pension Plan mathematically WILL fail. That will leave many of your brethren in a situation similar to the Cops & Firemen in Central Falls, RI.

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  19. David H
    David H 15 February, 2012, 17:58

    Mr. SkippyDog wouldn’t like reading the Bible either. Like in the last half of Revelation 6 it talks about the great men, the chief men, the captains calling for the rocks to fall on them and hide them. Sober stuff. The revolt in France was just a little picture of what many people believe will happen in the future on a worldwide extent. Dishonest politicians will certainly have their day. It’s called what goes around comes around. “What measure you use, will be measured to you.” You can’t escape it. But you can repent.

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  20. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 15 February, 2012, 19:56

    TL,this is not central falls road island and there is no comparison! As smart as you think you are I would have thought you would know that! Again, good luck TL….

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  21. Tough Love
    Tough Love 15 February, 2012, 20:04

    NTHEOC, If you took the time to read (and concentrate) you would see that the point was that the math makes it clear that the CA Plans will fail absent tax increases so huge that they are not possible.

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  22. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 15 February, 2012, 21:04

    Pension obligations are a percentage of payroll. I don’t see why the principals, (Pension Plans, and Member Entities) can’t sit down together and self-correct, so that the plans are sustainable.

    As for AG Harris: She titled the initiatives just what they are–pension cutting for past, present, and future public sector workers.

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  23. Tough Love
    Tough Love 15 February, 2012, 21:54

    Seesaw, you said ….”I don’t see why the principals, (Pension Plans, and Member Entities) can’t sit down together and self-correct, so that the plans are sustainable.”

    Doing this requires a significant reduction in pensions …. absolutely for all new employees, most assuredly for FUTURE service of current employees, quite likely for PAST service pension accrual of current actives, and possibly for current retirees.

    Other that those not yet hired, nobody whats to give more than 5% of what’s necessary to fix this.

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  24. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 16 February, 2012, 01:01

    If you took the time to read (and concentrate) you would see that the point was that the math makes it clear that the CA Plans will fail absent tax increases so huge that they are not possible.

    The pensions are going to fail even if there WERE a tax increase, the costs are exponential, there is simply never going to eb enough money to fund $100K plus pensions (and $60K+ and $80K+ pensions) to people who are 50, 55 or even 60. Average person will live to age 85. We will have more money being paid out to “retirees” and their pensions than current employees.

    Plus there is NO chance of the voters increasing the sales tax. I Have been saying this forever, the sales tax is DOA. They tried it in San Diego, it failed by a landslide 3-1 margin. It will be no different statewide. The voters are FULLY aware that the sales tax increase is not and never will be “temporary” and they knwo it is for pensions and they will simply not approve it. Take that to the bank. The sales tax is DOA.

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  25. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 16 February, 2012, 01:08

    Pension obligations are a percentage of payroll. I don’t see why the principals, (Pension Plans, and Member Entities) can’t sit down together and self-correct, so that the plans are sustainable.

    Actually seesaw they are % of the general fund, incoming taxes, aka revenue. In most muni’s pensions costs are in the 10%-20% range, and they are rising exponentially and will hot 30% to 50% if the pensions are not cut within a decade in many cities.

    Statewide the pensions costs with state employees and schools is 9%. Since most state money passes thru to the local counties and cities that number is at least another 10%. That si 19% total statewide. It simply cannot be met at the rate it is rising.

    The $100K club is only 3% of gov retirees, but the cost of that 3% is 15% of the pension costs. Do the math, once that $100K club hits 10% over HALF the pension costs will go to that 10%. Math simply won’t work. In 2005 there were only 1,500 in the $100K club, today there are 13K in the $100K club. That is in just 6 years it went up almost 10 FOLD.

    Pension cuts are coming to EVERYONE in CA and every where else who have $100K pensions at ages 65 and below.

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  26. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 16 February, 2012, 01:14

    Skippy, The POINT is that whether you like it or not, without huge increases in taxes (which simply WILL NOT happen) the pension Plan mathematically WILL fail. That will leave many of your brethren in a situation similar to the Cops & Firemen in Central Falls, RI.

    The highest paid pensioners in Central Falls RI were cops and FF’s and they took 55% pension cuts.

    But they were in a huge scam where they were getting 5%-6% ANNUAL COLA’s. That is simply ridiculous. The highest paid pensioner retired at $63K in 1992, and after 20 years his pension had TRIPLED his highest years pay, he had a $190K pension, 3 times the highest he ever made while actually working. It is this kind of scamming/abuse that has brought the problem to public pensions. seesaw doesn’t get it. She will try to defend this scam, which hurts her and others like her who have modest pensions and did not abuse or scam the system, like SB400 did and all others where pensions were raised retroactively, a complete scam of public funds.

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  27. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 16 February, 2012, 10:56

    Pension liabilities are a percentage of payroll, Rex. I used to work on those calculations, at my job, in the public sector.

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  28. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 16 February, 2012, 11:06

    The retroactive formulas were enacted by the legislature, and they can be rescinded by the legislature, Rex. In the meantime, there is nothing illegal about them. SB400 was not the first retroactive upgrade. All forumulas, that had been enhanced from the standard 2% at 60, to the subsequent 2.5; 2.75; and 3.0 formulas were done so, retroactively. Many entities are reforming back to the 2% at 60 formulas. The majority of CalPERS COLAS are 2% or less. I got less, the past two years. You think I don’t get it Rex–I am the one who worked in the public sector for 40 years. You are a joke! Where do you see any official proposals to cut CA pensions? Are you going to be the one to do that? Got your two million for the signature drive?

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  29. Tough Love
    Tough Love 16 February, 2012, 13:36

    Seesaw said …”Where do you see any official proposals to cut CA pensions? Are you going to be the one to do that? ”

    You won’t need Rex or anyone else. The “math” will take care of it in due time. The longer reform is fought the uglier the forced-by-necessity reform will be

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  30. David H
    David H 16 February, 2012, 18:55

    I’ve said it before, and will say it again. You would have to be blind, dumb, and stupid, to not recognize the “elite” government pensioners among us. Be it school teacher, firefighter, or police. They are living high on the hog. Anyone who has lived in CA for any length of time notices the change in government employee status, I think it started noticeably about the time of disco.

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  31. Tough Love
    Tough Love 16 February, 2012, 19:09

    David, The real issue (now that “cash pay” in the Public and private sector is just about equal), is to compare the value of the expected future pension (expressed as a lump sum … i.e., the present value of expected future pension payments discounted with interest and mortality) on the date of retirement. It is necessary to make the comparison this way because virtually all Public Sector pensions are annually COLA-increased, while such COLA increases are almost unheard of in Private Sector Plans.

    Given the SAME rate of pay, the SAME years of service, and the SAME age at retirement (e.g., 30 years of service retiring at age 60) the Taxpayer paid-for share of the TYPICAL Public Sector pension is 2-4 times (6 times for safety workers) greater than the pension of the Private sector counterpart. In addition, while Retiree healthcare is often free or heavily subsidized in the Public Sector, this benefit has almost disappeared in the Private Sector.

    The upshot of roughly equal “cash pay” but far far greater pensions and benefits in the Public Sector is far far greater Public Sector “total compensation” (pay + pensions + benefits). This is unnecessary to attract and retain a qualified workforce, is extraordinarily expensive and unsustainable, and is grossly unfair to taxpayers whose contribution (and the investment earnings thereon) routinely pay for 80-90% of Public Sector pensions.

    It is SOOOOO way past time for a 50+% haircut … and for CURRENT, not just new workers.

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  32. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 16 February, 2012, 19:28

    Nothing new here, TL. You will still be saying the same stuff, when I am dead and gone, and will have collected the pension I earned and received, that was protected by law. Perhaps should just turn your attention, to New Jersey–let us Californians take care of ourselves.

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  33. Tough Love
    Tough Love 16 February, 2012, 20:22

    Seesaw, It’s an National (actually it’s worst in Europe) not just a CA or NJ problem. The “math” will eventually force the fix, but at your age (in your 70’s if I recall) you’ll likely be too old to be concerned … and hopefully both you and I will have moved on to more productive endeavors.

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