How many ways can voters say ‘no’ to tax hikes?

May 23, 2012 - By admin

May 23, 2012

By Katy Grimes

The California city which has been trying to force a new professional sports arena on its tapped-out taxpayers is now asking for a sales-tax increase.

But even more egregious than the tax increase push is the poll commissioned by Sacramento’s City Manager John Shirey, the former leader of the now-defunct California Redevelopment Agency.

Proving just how easy it is to manipulate numbers and outcome, the poll found “roughly 70 percent of city voters would support a general purpose sales tax increase.”

Pfffft.

With a title full of bovine-stool, “The City of Sacramento Essential City Services Protection Measure,” the Democratic poll company FM3, phoned 800 city residents and asked,  “To restore eliminated police and unfilled firefighter positions and maintain essential City services, including 9-1-1 emergency response; gang and youth violence prevention, investigation of robberies and burglaries; park maintenance and safety; youth and senior services; and other city services, shall the City of Sacramento enact a one-half cent sales tax with all revenue for the City and none for the State, subject to public, annual, independent audits?

I want to know how the pollsters got 800 people to respond to such a stupid question. This does not speak well for Sacramento residents. They should have asked college students, “In order to receive all of the booze and weed for your four years of college, should the city enact a tax to pay for it?”

Notice that the poll company FM3 didn’t ask “would you be willing to pay additional taxes?,” and instead made it sound as if other city residents will be paying the taxes.

A more accurate poll?

An informal poll was recently taken by Sacramento Bee writer Ryan Lillis, who asked readers for their thoughts on a city tax hike proposal.  Of the 161 responses, more than 95 percent of them vehemently opposed any city tax hike.

The actual poll question was, “If pension concessions are reached, would you consider a sales tax increase or a new parcel tax to fund police officers, firefighters and parks?

My favorite answer was, “I am all for tax hikes if the Fireman are MD’s and can also perform surgery and prescribe medication.  They are beginning to make those salaries.  Police too if they are the equivelent of Navy Seals.  Sure, I would pay for those skills.”

The polling company

To give you a little insight into the polling company Shirey hired, FM3 has a headline story on it’s website about partner Paul Maslin, a Democratic pollster who is running the recall effort against Wiscon Governor Scott Walker, as well as working for Kathleen Falk, who is challenging Walker. Maslin ought to know about recalls since he also worked for California’s recalled Governor Gray Davis.

Take a look at all of the questions, clearly designed to elicit “yes” answers.

The pollers also asked the 800 likely voters if they would support a gang tax. “To provide at-risk school-aged youth with job skills, training, and work experience, by restoring eliminated gang and drug prevention programs, after-school and weekend programs, and youth sports and recreation programs, andrestoring local recreation center hours in high-risk areas, shall the City of Sacramento enact a one-quarter cent sales tax with all revenue for the City and none for the State, subject to public, annual, independent audits?

72 percent answered “yes,” or “probably yes.”

Sacramento politicians tried to pass a gang tax in 2008, but couldn’t even get support from other local politicians. Former Sacramento County Supervisor Roger Dickinson, now an Assemblyman representing Sacramento, and former Sacramento Mayor Heather Fargo, pushed for a quarter-cent sales tax increase, and claimed it would have generated $16 million per year. They also claimed the $16 million would have gone to “gang prevention,” but not many in the city believed them.

This poll is hardly news and should not be reported as such.

Shirey can play all the disingenuous numbers games he wants, and get local news media to reprint his press releases, but voters aren’t buying the horse poop flowing from City Hall.

Someone should ask Shirey where all of the the money is going? Sacramento voters are already paying a premium for fire, police and parks, but the services keep getting cut… it’s the city which hasn’t kept up its end of the bargain, and taxpayers know it.

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Comments(39)
  1. Ulysses Uhaul says:

    The media is about scare citizens with a state-wide social/health/education/security collapse.

    You will feel guilty.

    You’ll get over it!

  2. Skippingdog says:

    Six months is plenty of time to demonstrate the consequences of not approving Gov. Brown’s tax increase proposals. His proposals are currently leading in the polls throughout the state. As people see their parks, schools, and libraries closed down, they’ll realize even more that the services they expect from their government are neither free nor are they paid for by someone else.

    That “teachable moment” will be a joy to behold.

  3. Beelzebub says:

    Most polls are totally rigged to get the answer that the poll’s sponsor seek. PPIC is good for that. I laugh at their polls. I recall once when a poll asked whether illegal aliens are net gains or net losses to California. The alleged outcome was over 70% net gains!!! HAH!!! That was a real knee slapper.

    And humans, being the sheeple they are, will look at a poll and go along with how the majority allegely voted because they want to be part of the larger group without really understanding why.

    The average Californian is stupid. That’s one big reason that we’re in the mess we’re in.

    Forget about the mainstream media – TOTALLY GAMED AND SOLD OUT ON EVERY TOPIC OF INTEREST.

    Only at some blog sites can you get the truth anymore. But you have to be selective about the info the blogs put out too. They have agendas too! ;)

  4. Donkey says:

    SKdog, an increase in taxes is the last thing needed in any California entity.

    I propose cuts; 30% pay cuts for all RAGWUS members, 40% benefit cuts for the same, no perks of any kind, and a 50% cut to all pensions over $40,000, with any pension over $40,000 being reduced to no more than $50,000 a yesr with no COLA’s and no spiking of any kind allowed. With these modifications our once great state will be as A/C D/C says: “Back in Black.” :)

  5. SkippingDog says:

    I think a substantial increase in taxes, particularly on retired engineers and professional services, is exactly what we need to improve the budget and economic climate in this state.

    Since my plan has about as much chance of passing into law as yours does, Donkey, we’ll just have to go with the proposal being made by Gov. Brown.

    I know I’ll be giving it my financial support, and I’m sure there are a lot of people just like me who will also be working for passage.

  6. Beelzebub says:

    “I know I’ll be giving it my financial support, and I’m sure there are a lot of people just like me who will also be working for passage”

    You’re wasting your money. But I encourage you to give it away and throw it down the crapper. That way you can spread that pension around. It’s a lot like manure. The more you spread it the better it works! heh. I’ll be sure to remind you the day after the elections too! heh.

  7. Bob says:

    Here’s my favorite comment:


    BK_Cal1 1 comment

    LET ME SEE….

    1. PORN STAR BALL
    2. SEX IN FIREHOUSES
    3. MISSING MORPHINE FROM FIRE RIGS
    4. CRUISIN DOWNTOWN BARS WITH FIRE RIGS AND PICKING UP CHICKS TO GO JOYRIDING

    THAT WOULD BE…..NO, NO and NO TAXES!

  8. Bob says:

    Figures don’t lie but liars do figure…and these “polls” prove it.

    Where I live a retired city bureaucrat who now has a “consulting” company and has received contracts from the city is pushing for a 1 cent local sales tax increase to last 25 years.

    This crook collects a six figure retirement plus full health bennies and he only worked for the city for 15 years. He now works part-time for a nearby city and has his “consulting” firm on top of his six figure retirement.

    He and a couple of other “consultants” who suck off the gummit teat paid for the poll. A local taxpayer organization got a hold of the poll and to say it was deceptive would be an understatement.

    It was tailored to give these criminals the answers they wanted and to find out what lies they needed to tell the voters to get the tax increase passed.

    AND they will present the results to the city council who will then waive the requirement to get 6400 signatures to put the tax increase initiative on the ballot!

    That’s the way these polls work. Pure criminal filth, all the way around.

  9. Bob says:

    “…we’ll just have to go with the proposal being made by Gov. Brown.”

    Umm, no we won’t.

  10. Donkey says:

    Katy wrote: “Someone should ask Shirey where all of the the money is going? Sacramento voters are already paying a premium for fire, police and parks, but the services keep getting cut… it’s the city which hasn’t kept up its end of the bargain, and taxpayers know it.”

    You already answered your own question Katy. The money is going to pay, perks, benefits, and obscene pensions for all the RAGWUS comrades. :)

  11. Donkey says:

    SKdog, we will be going with what the math decrees. No amount of tax increases is going to save your make believe RAGWUS future. The state has already reached the point of no return on benefits from increased taxes. Any more burden placed upon the private sector workers will only hasten the end, and thus freedom from RAGWUS tyranny. ;)

  12. Donkey says:

    SKdog, California will follow Greece and then Spain will join them.

    Why? Because, just like the “dolt” who sits in our White House they cannot and will not allow themselves to face reality and realize that you cannot take from the thrifty give to the shifty and mortgage the future so you can enjoy “the good life” in the present – and then when it all comes tumbling down blame it on someone else, when in fact it was YOU, not someone else, was profligate with the public’s coffers.

    As long as you have blind men leading the U. S.,California, France, Spain and Greece, who delusionally believe they have the gift of special sight and know the way all lesser men would know if only they were as enlightened as they – you will have the kind of lunacy you see happen here and abroad. Your RAGWUS has created the pinch we are now in and now the math will make the corrections needed.

    Time for California, Greece, Spain and France to crash and burn and take the lumps they have been setting themselves up for for decades – let us hope come election time we can change our own course before we end up like them. :)

  13. Beelzebub says:

    “Time for California, Greece, Spain and France to crash and burn and take the lumps they have been setting themselves up for for decades – let us hope come election time we can change our own course before we end up like them”

    The political systems are so dirty here and in europe that the other fork in the road leading to transparency and economic freedom have been obstructed and closed, Mr. Donkey. The only outcome here will be immense suffering. The decision makers have all sold out to the big money. Their only interest is backstopping their sugar daddies. Commoners be damned! The ship will sink before it gets turned around, Mr. Donkey. That is our fate in a hijacked system. The pension funds will be one of the first to blow up. Skippy will be crying in his rancid lemonaide that he was forced to make with rotten lemons. And he will blame everyone but himself and his union masters! ;)

  14. SkippingDog says:

    Which countries do you think have well operating political systems, Donkey and Beel? I’d just like to know where your reference point is.

  15. Donkey says:

    Political “systems,” as you refer to them, are almost always corrupt. The U.S. was somewhat of an exception until the late 1980’s. This is when the public employee unions began to strangle honest canidates and install their own jaded marks to steal everything they could from the private sector taxpayers. You can’t fathom this notion SKdog because you are a product of the very Quid Pro Quo RAGWUS I have been writing about for years.

    For the 30 odd years you farted around in your RAGWUS bureaucracy you produced nothing, you never were held responsible for any of your actions, a budget was for the private sector only, accountability? No way!!

    You did however hold extravagant parties to hand out awards to RAGWUS members that were considered best groomed, best looking, most style, best walk, best speaker, most likely to be chief, and of course the public servant hero. And then you left with a huge pension and the attitude, “I deserve!”

    You remind me of those folks that hung around New Orleans just a little too long SKdog. At some point you are going to come to realization that it will not matter what position you slimed into the RAGWUS as, In the end changes are coming and you will be taking a cut whether you like it or not. ;)

  16. Beelzebub says:

    “Which countries do you think have well operating political systems, Donkey and Beel? I’d just like to know where your reference point is”

    There are actually some very well run governments throughout the world. In the euro nations: – Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Denmark – in Asia: Singapore – In South America: Chile.

    Germany pulled off a remarkable feat when the east merged with the west. That cost many billions. Yet Germany is one of the best managed nations fiscally. The problem is all the other leech euro nations want to bring them down. If I were the Chancellor I would tell all of them to go screw themselves and go back to the D-Mark.

    The US has really evolved into a semi-fascist nation as the powers of government and the corporations have essentially merged and are sucking the life from the middle class. We have been forced to give up many of our civil liberties. The middle class is being dismantled – while the top 5% are getting richer – even during the economic meltdown.

    Your boy Obama is a real piece of work. If he gets in for another 4 we’re done.

  17. SkippingDog says:

    Germany has a GPD to debt ratio that’s double that of the U.S. The Netherlands, Sweeden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland all have what you wingnuts continually refer to as evil socialist governments, and you now have the gall to claim they’re well run in comparison to the U.S.? I’d gladly take Scandinavian style government here, but the whining about the necessary taxes to properly fund such a system would be overwhelmingly loud and obnoxious, just like Donkey often is.

    Here’s a nice slide-show for you. Let us know how the countries you like rate against the U.S., Beel.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/30308959/The_World_s_Biggest_Debtor_Nations

  18. SkippingDog says:

    Here’s something from the CIA’s World Fact Book, unless you’re too skeptical of anything produced by the government.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2186rank.html

  19. Beelzebub says:

    “Germany has a GPD to debt ratio that’s double that of the U.S.”

    BS. I don’t even tune into CNBC anymore. I consider it a propoganda channel.

    Measuring debt to GDP here are the percentages of the nations I previously noted:

    Germany: 82%
    Holland: 66%
    Sweden: 38%
    Norway: 50%
    Chile: 10%
    Singapore: 100% (but with low, low crime and a high standard of living)

    THE UNITED STATES: 102% (and climbing fast).

    The US is the biggest debtor nation on Planet Earth, Skippy.

    Productivity is down and debt is rising fast. Economic bubbles are all that fuel growth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt

    Read it and weep, Skippy!

  20. Beelzebub says:

    Aren’t you a professor, Skippy.

    The US GDP output is about $15T

    Our current Federal debt is $15.7T

    Do the math, professor.

    Where do you come up with 69%??? heh. :D

  21. Donkey says:

    Like I told you up above SKdog, “Because, just like the “dolt” who sits in our White House they cannot and will not allow themselves to face reality and realize that you cannot take from the thrifty give to the shifty and mortgage the future so you can enjoy “the good life” in the present – and then when it all comes tumbling down blame it on someone else, when in fact it was YOU, not someone else, was profligate with the public’s coffers.”

    Face reality my friend! The RAGWUS parasites are killing drive, ambition, innovation,and the work ethic in our nation because of their greedy ways of wanting to recieve something for nothing in return.

    Like OCO says, the only growth we have today is who can put together the biggest short term scam that creates faux wealth with no growth. ;)

  22. SkippingDog says:

    You’ll use Wikipedia, but ignore CNBC and the CIA World Factbook?

    As Daniel Moynihan said so clearly, you’re entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

    Here’s a nice Wikipedia chart showing tax revenue percentage compared to GDP for all the nations of our world that matter. Be sure to sort it under the Heritage Foundation listing and look at the countries that have either a higher or lower percentage than the U.S.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_as_percentage_of_GDP

  23. SkippingDog says:

    I notice on your list that Singapore has debt at over 118% of its GDP, yet you cite it as one of your examples of a well run government. How is that possible, Beel?

  24. Beelzebub says:

    “You’ll use Wikipedia, but ignore CNBC and the CIA World Factbook?”

    Look at the sources used by the wiki link that I posted, dummie: EuroStat, the CIA, and the IMF – all reknown agencies that deal in global economic data and statistics.

    CNBC??? HAH! CNBC wasn’t even able to forecast the real estate collapse. They claimed we lived in a new economic era where real estate values would continue to go higher and higher!!! HAH! I called the real estate collapse a year in advance by simply charting the price of homes sold in my neighborhood while taking my dog for his nighly walk!!! HAH! That goes to show the value of CNBC and it’s data!!! HAH! :D

    “As Daniel Moynihan said so clearly, you’re entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts”

    I already gave you the FACTS, dummie. US GDP is $15.17T. US Federal debt is $15.75T. Can’t you do simple arithmetic, professor? The debt to GDP ratio = 103.75%. Obviously you’re no math professor, are ya??? :D

    “Here’s a nice Wikipedia chart showing tax revenue percentage compared to GDP for all the nations of our world that matter”

    So what’s your point here? What does tax revenue have to do with it? If you add up all the taxes AND FEES (that are taxes described by another name) the majority of Americans pay 50% or more of their gross income in taxes (& fees).

    “I notice on your list that Singapore has debt at over 118% of its GDP, yet you cite it as one of your examples of a well run government. How is that possible, Beel?”

    As of Jan 2011 Singapore government debt to GDP was about 60%. When you net out the foreign reserves that Singapore holds – the ratio is even less.

    Singapore is the 14th largest exporter in the world. It runs a huge trade and current accounts surplus. It has the highest trade to GDP ratio in the world. It has the highest percentage of millionaires in the world – over 15%. Singapore is the ONLY asian nation with AAA ratings from the big 3 agencies: Moodys, Fitch and S&P. It has a ridiculously low crime rate. You can walk down any street in Singapore with dollars hanging from your pockets and feel completely safe. Poverty in Singapore is an ABERRATION! According to studies, it is one of the economically freest and LEAST CORRUPT nations in the world.

    Stuff those facts in your pipe and smoke ‘em, professor!!! :D

  25. Beelzebub says:

    Looks like I lost Skippy.

    That tends to happen when facts override spin. heh. :)

    Somebody put out an APB. Search for Skippy! :)

  26. SkippingDog says:

    I’m always here, Beel. Unlike you, I have a life away from the kook blogs and can’t always be immediately available to humor you and your nutty rants.

    Once more, I refer you to the CIA World Factbook and its footnotes for reference if you don’t really understand relative debt rates.

    In the meantime, you could probably help yourself by freeze drying some more food and burying more gold in the backyard like Donkey does.

    Have a good holiday. Those of us who’ve actually served our nation will be remembering our brothers and sisters who’ve given their lives to protect goofy people like the Three Pendejos. You can see what that looks like if you have access to something like the Military Channel.

  27. Beelzebub says:

    “Those of us who’ve actually served our nation will be remembering our brothers and sisters who’ve given their lives to protect goofy people like the Three Pendejos”

    Being a cop isn’t serving the nation, kimosabe. It’s the nation serving you. I was an actual vet who served in the US military. I performed REAL service, not plastic service like you did as a cop. All of you should be charged with financial rape of the taxpayers in the first degree. :) Phonies.

  28. Beelzebub says:

    Oh, and you notice Skippy didn’t respond to my comments on Singapore or the fact that the CIA’s data was used in the Wiki link that I posted.

    He never responds to my replies directly. He always disingenuously dances around them.

    But I call him out first time, everytime. :)

    You also notice he won’t comment directly on the fact that the US had a federal debt of $15.75T and a GDP of about $15.17. Any idiot can do that math Debt to GDP ratio = 103% plus. But he still won’t admit to it. And he claims to be a university professor!!! HAH! GOD HELP US!!!! :D

  29. SkippingDog says:

    Singapore has a smaller population than Orange County, and its budget is about 40% of California’s general fund. Nevertheless, since it’s hard to tell whether you’re merely being obtuse or are truly a fool, here’s a direct quote about the Singapore economy and its debt from the CIA world fact book:

    “118.2% of GDP (2011 est.)
    country comparison to the world: 10
    112.4% of GDP (2010 est.)
    note: for Singapore, public debt consists largely of Singapore Government Securities (SGS) issued to assist the Central Provident Fund (CPF), which administers Singapore’s defined contribution pension fund; special issues of SGS are held by the CPF, and are non-tradable; the government has not borrowed to finance deficit expenditures since the 1980s”

    SGS would be the same as US Treasuries for us, in case you have a hard time making that connection.

    BTW, I served in the USAF for six years and yes, I did buy that military time to increase my pension. That means you should thank me even more.

  30. Beelzebub says:

    “Singapore has a smaller population than Orange County, and its budget is about 40% of California’s general fund”

    What’s that got to do with anything, professor? You asked which nations have better run governments than the US. I told you.

    And you didn’t even mention the other nations I mentioned (besides Singapore)because you know I’m right.

    Big is not necessarily better. The US is the BIGGEST DEBTOR NATION IN THE WORLD. Singpore had a budget surplus of 1.7% in 2010. The US had a budget deficit of 10-12%. Singapore’s GDP growth in 2010 was 17.5%. The US was close to being in negative numbers on growth in 2010.

    Singapore’s Debt to GDP ratio is LESS than ours.

    Singapore’s HIGHEST tax rates for individuals in 20%.

    Singapore’s government has virtually eliminated murder, rape, or other violent crimes in their country. Drug crimes are rare too! People are safe walking down any Singapore street @ 2am on a Saturday night. ANY STREET. Try that in east LA.

    Naturally, you failed to mention any of this that I posted in my last comment. So I will repeat it for all to see:

    Singapore is the 14th largest exporter in the world. It runs a huge trade and current accounts surplus. It has the highest trade to GDP ratio in the world. It has the highest percentage of millionaires in the world – over 15%. Singapore is the ONLY asian nation with AAA ratings from the big 3 agencies: Moodys, Fitch and S&P. It has a ridiculously low crime rate. You can walk down any street in Singapore with dollars hanging from your pockets and feel completely safe. Poverty in Singapore is an ABERRATION! According to studies, it is one of the economically freest and LEAST CORRUPT nations in the world.

    “I served in the USAF for six years and yes, I did buy that military time to increase my pension. That means you should thank me even more”

    Oh, so you stood out in a field and guarded C141’s at night, eh??? I bet you never even heard a shot fired in you entire 6 years too! heh. And had you hear one you probably would have high tailed it in the opposite direction. heh. I got nothing to thank you for. As a matter of fact, I despise you for putting the state and nation further in debt out of personal greed and avarice.

    The fact that you’re a college professor in America embarrasses me. It just goes to show how far the state of education has fallen in America. No wonder the world laughs at us. :)

  31. SkippingDog says:

    The world laughs at us because they read wingnut nonsense from posters like you, Beel.

    On this Memorial Day, it doesn’t really matter if you despise me or not. I’ve provided far more service to my country than you even dream about, and I have been fortunate to be rewarded for my loyalty and commitment.

    It’s too bad bitter old fools like you didn’t do something more with your lives. I guess the constant reminders of “what might have been” gnaw at your insides and feed your belligerence toward those of us who’ve actually accomplished something for our country and for ourselves.

    Singapore has one of the most repressive governments of any “open” nation. Remember that the penalty there for selling chewing gum or failing to flush a public toilet is caning, but you probably like the idea of that because behind your libertarian rhetoric is nothing more than a yearning for authoritarian government. Here’s an example from your newest favorite source:

    “Although the legal system of Singapore is a common law system, the criminal law of Singapore is largely statutory in nature. The general principles of criminal law, as well as the elements and penalties of common criminal offences such as homicide, theft and cheating, are set out in the Penal Code. Other important offences are created by statutes such as the Arms Offences Act, Kidnapping Act, Misuse of Drugs Act and Vandalism Act.

    In addition, there is a perception that Singapore society is highly regulated through the criminalization of many activities which are considered as fairly harmless in other countries. These include failing to flush toilets after use, littering, jaywalking, the possession of pornography, the sale of chewing gum, and sexual activity; such as oral and anal sex between men. It has been claimed that one of the results of such heavy regulation is that Singapore has one of the lowest incidences of violent crimes in the world. A catchphrase recently used in a police anti-crime campaign was “Low crime does not mean no crime”.

    Singapore retains both corporal punishment (in the form of caning) and capital punishment (by hanging) as punishments for serious offences. For certain offences, the imposition of these penalties is mandatory. More than 400 people were executed in Singapore, mostly for drug trafficking, between 1991 and 2004. Statistically, Singapore has one of the highest execution rates in the world relative to its population, surpassing Saudi Arabia.[13] Science fiction writer William Gibson famously described Singapore as “Disneyland with the death penalty”.”

    It’s amusing that you would find your model of a “good government” in such a repressive society. So much for your claim of wanting freedom for everyone.

  32. Beelzebub says:

    “I’ve provided far more service to my country than you even dream about, and I have been fortunate to be rewarded for my loyalty and commitment”

    You have no idea what I’ve done with my life. You speak from ignorance. That’s what you do best, professor. And you’ve helped suck the country dry. You are one insect in the swarm that cleaned out the harvest. But it takes a village. You are as guilty as the rest.

    “It’s too bad bitter old fools like you didn’t do something more with your lives”

    Again, you have no idea what I’ve done with my life. But if you did you would bow in honor.

    “Singapore has one of the most repressive governments of any “open” nation”

    You’re full of it. Singapore has consistently and repeatedly been voted by international councils and agencies by one of the freest and least corrupted economies on the globe. Again, not surprisingly, you speak from ignorance, professor.

    Singapore has “rule of law” that is actually enforced. It has one of the lowest crime rates in any civilized nation. God bless them. Singapore is a FREE nation – but if you commit heinous crimes you are going to pay for it bigtime. That’s the way a government should be run. You are obviously a dyed in the wool liberal – and that’s been made clear in many of you opinions. You should be President of “Move On”. And, quite frankly, I wish you would. :)

    “Singapore retains both corporal punishment (in the form of caning) and capital punishment (by hanging) as punishments for serious offences”

    That’s good. We should have the same in America. That’s one reason our jails are packed. Because we don’t. BTW, professor, you spelled “offences” wrong. It’s “offenses”. You are not british either. So don’t use that excuse. Chalk it up to more ignorance. ;)

    Naturally you FAILED to mention that in Singapore POVERTY IS AN ABERRATION! Another sign of a well developed and well managed society.

    Foiled again, Professor!!!

    Again, the fact that you are a college professor embarrasses me as an American citizen. Just so you know! :D

  33. SkippingDog says:

    Apparently you can’t tell when something is cited as a direct quote, so it’s easy to see how you would think “offences” is misspelled.

    The remainder of your vitriolic post merely enforces what I posted about your background and motivation earlier. You’re nothing but a bitter and envious little man who tries to bully those who don’t share your jaded view of our country and the world in which we live.

    Try again, Beel, and see if you have the capacity to actually read and comprehend the information posted on the links provided. I think you’re just too wrapped up in your own delusions to let facts ever get in the way of your rants, but that’s the nice thing about America – as opposed to an authoritarian society like your model Singapore – the freedoms we have include the freedom to hold positions that make us look foolish, something you do with predictable regularity here and on other blogs.

    Now, how about you tell us which service you really served in your military career. As I recall, you’ve at various times claimed the US Marine Corps, the US Coast Guard, and possibly the US Navy – although I admit I may be confusing you with Donkey on that last claim. You’re either an undercover Rambo or just another bloviating boor who claims a service you’ve never really performed. I’d bet it’s not Rambo….

  34. Beelzebub says:

    There ya go, speaking in generalities again WITHOUT answering any of my questions or responding to any of the FACTS that I presented. That proves you got nothing as usual – nothing but hot air and lots of gas. Don’t bother responding until you answer my question or respond to the posted facts, professor. Otherwise you just make yourself look like a village idiot and damage the reputation of colleges and universities from coast to coast.

    I never claimed Marine Corp, Coast Guard or Navy. I told you I am a vet with an honorable discharged which is 100% true. That’s all you need to know. I don’t speak for Donkey. Direct your questions about his background directly to him. But I will tell you one thing. There is no doubt in my mind that my service to country and my achievements would make yours look like the equivalent of Sad Sack.

  35. SkippingDog says:

    Beelzebub – just another internet warrior.

  36. Donkey says:

    SKdog, did you ever read the book “Mig Pilot?” It gives great insight into the day to day workings of a “collectivist” bureaucracy to which you have so much praise. Because you spent so much of your life feeding off of others you have no basis in reality and thus unable to see the truth of my words.

    Collectivists are vague and nebulous thinkers, they generalize and make sweeping conclusions rather than seeing the myriad of individual transactions, some good, some bad, some justified and proper, but most unjustified and improper. They are simpletons in that they over simplify history and economics and nearly everything else they think about. There is one aspect of the modern RAGWUS feeding “collectivist” that has never changed, and you are living proof. It is their own sense of grandeur, entitlement, self-importance and the lack of respect for folks that supply the wealth you greedy thieves. :)

  37. Beelzebub says:

    Don’t forget, Mr. Donkey. Skipper is a college professor. He is one of America’s intelligensia. We must bow down and show him respect because somehow he managed to slip through the cracks and probably fills innocent minds full of the same wretched garbage that he spouts on these boards. And some of these poor kids take out loans for $75,000 or more to listen to people like him!!! HAH! :D

    Alas! What a failed nation we’ve become! :(

  38. Donkey says:

    So true OCO!

    The RAGWUS is so full liers and cheats that only the most dishonest man could ever rise to the top. Everywhere you look is filth, corruption, lying, hypocrisy, and cant,(I used the word “cant” in terms of the private language of hte underworld,) all set to the tune of patriotic music and propaganda slogans that bear about as much resemblance to reality as a Tom & Jerry cartoon. It’s Orwell’s “1984”, with worse technology.

    Look at the RAGWUS members all jumping ship to gorge themselves on $100,000 plus pensions. Look at the overly paid department heads at every city, county, and state agency, add in the $100,000 plus grunts of LE and FF’s and it is clear how out of touch the RAGWUS is with reality.

    Yea, SKdog may be a college professor, in fact I am quite sure he represents your average professor because he comes across just as I discribed in the paragraph above about Orwell.

    And yes SKdog, I did a stint in the USN, but in no way would I consider myself a hero for doing a task I signed up to do. ;)

  39. Beelzebub says:

    “And yes SKdog, I did a stint in the USN, but in no way would I consider myself a hero for doing a task I signed up to do”

    You and me both, Mr. Donkey. No one forced me to go in. I did it entirely upon my own volition. And when I mention to someone that I was in the military once and they give that knee-jerk phrase “Thanks for serving” in return I always tell them that when I went into the service as a kid I enlisted mostly for selfish reasons – to get the GI Bill so I could pay for college. I told them I never intended to make a career of it. And I tell them it was totally voluntary. So I always tell them that there’s no reason to thank me. Most are left speechless afterwards. ;)

    Personally, I can’t stand former military who act like they deserved to be worshipped as hero figures. Whenever I come across them I never hesitate to dress them down.

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