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		By: slim		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-120922</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1399&quot;&gt;Adament&lt;/a&gt;.

Hater]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1399">Adament</a>.</p>
<p>Hater</p>
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		By: Amy		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-120064</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1399&quot;&gt;Adament&lt;/a&gt;.

I do believe you should take care of your parents when they are old. But to judge her for giving up her time and money to cook, clean and care for her parents so they don&#039;t have to be in a nursing home. A nursing home cost $3500-6k a month from the government. Paying her $900-1500 a month to care for them is a substantial savings for the government, our tax dollars and rewards her for helping out. Nowadays, kids are selfish and do not care about their parents. This is also allows the parents to spend time with their families at home. I volunteer in a nursing home and its depressing when NO ONE comes to visit their old parents there.. 

BE GRATEFUL for this program. It is so wonderful and benefits everyone. Of course frauds should be prosecuted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1399">Adament</a>.</p>
<p>I do believe you should take care of your parents when they are old. But to judge her for giving up her time and money to cook, clean and care for her parents so they don&#8217;t have to be in a nursing home. A nursing home cost $3500-6k a month from the government. Paying her $900-1500 a month to care for them is a substantial savings for the government, our tax dollars and rewards her for helping out. Nowadays, kids are selfish and do not care about their parents. This is also allows the parents to spend time with their families at home. I volunteer in a nursing home and its depressing when NO ONE comes to visit their old parents there.. </p>
<p>BE GRATEFUL for this program. It is so wonderful and benefits everyone. Of course frauds should be prosecuted.</p>
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		By: Alessandro Machi		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-117386</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alessandro Machi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2015 03:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1401&quot;&gt;Sandra Siedenburg&lt;/a&gt;.

Sandra, I would dearly like to speak to you but don&#039;t know how to get a hold of you via the internet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1401">Sandra Siedenburg</a>.</p>
<p>Sandra, I would dearly like to speak to you but don&#8217;t know how to get a hold of you via the internet.</p>
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		By: Debbie R.		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1404</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Adament:

I disagree. This program helps those who cannot afford the in-home care they need. Do you REALLY know the extent of the aging family members medical conditions? I doubt it. In addition to that, the Mother AND the grandmother need assistance. Which I imagine can become overwhelming for the family. This is NOT wrong, as In Home Supportive services is just that. Services and assistance received in the home versus someone being placed in a facility where they will become neglected, perhaps even abused.

I have a disabled son who is now 22, confined to a wheelchair. I retired early last year ( as he was no longer eligible to attend school ) so that I could stay home and care for him instead of throwing him in an adult day care program where again, he could become neglected, even abused. There is no way I could do that to him. I miss my job more than anyone knows. And my paycheck. HOWEVER IHSS allows me the income to be home with him and still pay our bills. Maybe not as comfortable as we were, but I thank God for this.

Whether a person is employed full time, part time or not at all, it is a sacrifice to stay home and care for their family members. If something were to happen to me, I would expect my older son to do the same and take over.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS, AND EXACTLY WHAT IHSS WAS CREATED FOR.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adament:</p>
<p>I disagree. This program helps those who cannot afford the in-home care they need. Do you REALLY know the extent of the aging family members medical conditions? I doubt it. In addition to that, the Mother AND the grandmother need assistance. Which I imagine can become overwhelming for the family. This is NOT wrong, as In Home Supportive services is just that. Services and assistance received in the home versus someone being placed in a facility where they will become neglected, perhaps even abused.</p>
<p>I have a disabled son who is now 22, confined to a wheelchair. I retired early last year ( as he was no longer eligible to attend school ) so that I could stay home and care for him instead of throwing him in an adult day care program where again, he could become neglected, even abused. There is no way I could do that to him. I miss my job more than anyone knows. And my paycheck. HOWEVER IHSS allows me the income to be home with him and still pay our bills. Maybe not as comfortable as we were, but I thank God for this.</p>
<p>Whether a person is employed full time, part time or not at all, it is a sacrifice to stay home and care for their family members. If something were to happen to me, I would expect my older son to do the same and take over.</p>
<p>THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS, AND EXACTLY WHAT IHSS WAS CREATED FOR.</p>
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		By: Cathy Mangum		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1403</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy Mangum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I live in Texas and go thru an agency that provides me with home health care 22 hours a week.  I have not had anyone for 3 months now, my next door neighbor who helps me out just as a kind person applied and the agency said she did not pass the background check.About six years ago she was convicted of theft of a habitat, they say because of that she does not pass the backgrond check. I have had othr people in the past that had records of credit card and check theft and they used them, and they passed.
Why can&#039;t my friend??
Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Texas and go thru an agency that provides me with home health care 22 hours a week.  I have not had anyone for 3 months now, my next door neighbor who helps me out just as a kind person applied and the agency said she did not pass the background check.About six years ago she was convicted of theft of a habitat, they say because of that she does not pass the backgrond check. I have had othr people in the past that had records of credit card and check theft and they used them, and they passed.<br />
Why can&#8217;t my friend??<br />
Thanks</p>
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		By: Lynold		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1402</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 07:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a novel idea. Let prisoners take care of prisoners.
Man why didn&#039;t somebody come up with the idea sooner?
They are called PA&#039;s. They have them in the military.
Is it not good enough for prisoners?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a novel idea. Let prisoners take care of prisoners.<br />
Man why didn&#8217;t somebody come up with the idea sooner?<br />
They are called PA&#8217;s. They have them in the military.<br />
Is it not good enough for prisoners?</p>
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		By: Sandra Siedenburg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1401</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandra Siedenburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 16:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was a social worker within the IHSS program.  I reported fraud by IHSS providers, IHSS clients, and even by county workers within my office which were substantiated by OCI.

There is a lot of waste, abuse, and mismanagement within the program.  I personally witnessed evidence of physical and fidiciary abuse by IHSS caregivers on the disabled, the elderly and children.  A few of my clients even died due to this neglect.

There are times that I still see the faces of my clients in front of me and I have to push their poor images out of my mind.  Yes, I reported everything I saw but to no avail.....I&#039;m still asking WHY?

Mr. Browning you know I was telling the truth. I can only image what you told the civil grand jury.  From what I understand workers in Lancaster wanted to speak to the Board of Supervisors recently about problems within DPSS but you were concerned that you would have to attend and didn&#039;t want to come (I believe) to Lancaster.  So concessions were made.  What happened to transparency?

Until the IHSS program is really scrutinized and overhauled clients will continue to be victimized and abused.  Fraud will continue to grow.  However the catch is if you try to disclose what is happening you will be persecuted and villified. Or worse, you will lose your job.

Although I blame my job loss on Leo Terrell for his incompetent and unethical legal representation and practices...(Yes, Leo there is a Civil Service Commission and I would have known if I was going to be fired--you could have told me this instead of screaming at me during the mediation that I would be fired)...I believe that there were other forces at play.
I can safely say that Los Angeles County administrators really do not care about IHSS fraud or abuse.  And they will make evry effort to cover it up.

P.S. Marcia, you told me to be &quot;rest assured&quot;. Honestly I never felt this way and after our last phone call I knew something was horribly wrong. It makes me feel so sad that you didn&#039;t tell me what happened.  I really was a good worker and all my evaluations proved this.  I&#039;m sorry that you felt you couldn&#039;t tell me. I would have told you the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a social worker within the IHSS program.  I reported fraud by IHSS providers, IHSS clients, and even by county workers within my office which were substantiated by OCI.</p>
<p>There is a lot of waste, abuse, and mismanagement within the program.  I personally witnessed evidence of physical and fidiciary abuse by IHSS caregivers on the disabled, the elderly and children.  A few of my clients even died due to this neglect.</p>
<p>There are times that I still see the faces of my clients in front of me and I have to push their poor images out of my mind.  Yes, I reported everything I saw but to no avail&#8230;..I&#8217;m still asking WHY?</p>
<p>Mr. Browning you know I was telling the truth. I can only image what you told the civil grand jury.  From what I understand workers in Lancaster wanted to speak to the Board of Supervisors recently about problems within DPSS but you were concerned that you would have to attend and didn&#8217;t want to come (I believe) to Lancaster.  So concessions were made.  What happened to transparency?</p>
<p>Until the IHSS program is really scrutinized and overhauled clients will continue to be victimized and abused.  Fraud will continue to grow.  However the catch is if you try to disclose what is happening you will be persecuted and villified. Or worse, you will lose your job.</p>
<p>Although I blame my job loss on Leo Terrell for his incompetent and unethical legal representation and practices&#8230;(Yes, Leo there is a Civil Service Commission and I would have known if I was going to be fired&#8211;you could have told me this instead of screaming at me during the mediation that I would be fired)&#8230;I believe that there were other forces at play.<br />
I can safely say that Los Angeles County administrators really do not care about IHSS fraud or abuse.  And they will make evry effort to cover it up.</p>
<p>P.S. Marcia, you told me to be &#8220;rest assured&#8221;. Honestly I never felt this way and after our last phone call I knew something was horribly wrong. It makes me feel so sad that you didn&#8217;t tell me what happened.  I really was a good worker and all my evaluations proved this.  I&#8217;m sorry that you felt you couldn&#8217;t tell me. I would have told you the truth.</p>
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		By: Vera Gonzales		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1400</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vera Gonzales]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My mother went through several providers who stole from her and put her in danger.   Our family later found out they had records but yet passed a livescan background , we were told it was her (elderly woman) responsiblity to check on the person that is hired.  I found much fraud going on in my mothers senior apt building. Many workers were not doing the hours, many would ask to have hours increased to get more free money and benefits.  There is too much fraud going on I have seen it myself. The eldery are afraid to report them because they feel threatened, many are illegal immigrants.

The whole system needs to change it seems to be a great way for felons to work and have access to eldery people and the little money they have.  Something needs to be done these people are stealing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother went through several providers who stole from her and put her in danger.   Our family later found out they had records but yet passed a livescan background , we were told it was her (elderly woman) responsiblity to check on the person that is hired.  I found much fraud going on in my mothers senior apt building. Many workers were not doing the hours, many would ask to have hours increased to get more free money and benefits.  There is too much fraud going on I have seen it myself. The eldery are afraid to report them because they feel threatened, many are illegal immigrants.</p>
<p>The whole system needs to change it seems to be a great way for felons to work and have access to eldery people and the little money they have.  Something needs to be done these people are stealing.</p>
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		By: Adament		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1399</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adament]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had a coworker who supplemented her (very good) income at our work by received IHSS payments for &quot;taking care of&quot; her mother and grandmother each day.  I always thought we were supposed to care for our elderly family members without getting paid for it.  While this may not be outright fraud, it is still surely wrong.  Neither of the women was disabled to the point they needed real care.  She drove them to doctor&#039;s appointments.  Her boyfriend of several years cooked (they didn&#039;t marry, because she would have lost the benefits she received for daycare for her son).  Her father, still at home and not disabled, did the cleaning.  And my coworker got paid for eight hours each day for each woman.  Wrong, wrong, wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a coworker who supplemented her (very good) income at our work by received IHSS payments for &#8220;taking care of&#8221; her mother and grandmother each day.  I always thought we were supposed to care for our elderly family members without getting paid for it.  While this may not be outright fraud, it is still surely wrong.  Neither of the women was disabled to the point they needed real care.  She drove them to doctor&#8217;s appointments.  Her boyfriend of several years cooked (they didn&#8217;t marry, because she would have lost the benefits she received for daycare for her son).  Her father, still at home and not disabled, did the cleaning.  And my coworker got paid for eight hours each day for each woman.  Wrong, wrong, wrong.</p>
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		By: Pray4Peace		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/06/15/new-ex-felons-as-care-providers/#comment-1398</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pray4Peace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank God for ex-offenders who take on the job of IHSS provider that few of us are willing to do.

The prisons, especially the immoral for-profit prisons, are upside down.  They are rewarded with more business, more employees, and bigger budgets when they fail to do their jobs of rehabiliation and ex-offenders re-offend and are sent back to prison.  Failed tough-on-crime policies, like the three-strikes law that does not work as voters intended, are bankrupting us.

Donovan prison reduced their recidivism rate from 70% to 21% through their rehab programs. At $50,000 per inmate per year, consider the savings we realized because those people did not return to prison.  We should measure the success of rehab, drug, and educational programs and fund those that work.  It would save us millions in tax payer dollars and more important, prevent new crime and new victims.

To those people who complain that ex-offenders should get a job, be grateful that many of them are changing diapers for the elderly and infirm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God for ex-offenders who take on the job of IHSS provider that few of us are willing to do.</p>
<p>The prisons, especially the immoral for-profit prisons, are upside down.  They are rewarded with more business, more employees, and bigger budgets when they fail to do their jobs of rehabiliation and ex-offenders re-offend and are sent back to prison.  Failed tough-on-crime policies, like the three-strikes law that does not work as voters intended, are bankrupting us.</p>
<p>Donovan prison reduced their recidivism rate from 70% to 21% through their rehab programs. At $50,000 per inmate per year, consider the savings we realized because those people did not return to prison.  We should measure the success of rehab, drug, and educational programs and fund those that work.  It would save us millions in tax payer dollars and more important, prevent new crime and new victims.</p>
<p>To those people who complain that ex-offenders should get a job, be grateful that many of them are changing diapers for the elderly and infirm.</p>
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