Comments on: Brown Ignored Union Bill's Warnings

By: Pigs Get Fed, Hogs Get Slaughtered: Union Membership & America's Looming Fiscal Crisis - LaborUnionReport.com

Tue, 19 Mar 2019 19:20:03 +0000

[…] office, California’s Jerry Brown, the same governor who gave California unions the ability to put a noose around the Golden State’s neck 34 years ago has declared a fiscal state of […]

By: Rank& File

Rank& File — Sat, 06 Apr 2013 03:23:36 +0000

The union is not just about wages and pensions. Much of the bargaining is concerned with working conditions. I can tell you that the management is a much greater threat to the budget than union wages. There are many managers who are on a power trip and waste tax dollars like there’s no tomorrow. The money is not theirs, so they don’t care. They don’t own the organization or have other consequences for the waste.

One of the things that prevents or reduces that waste is the Dills Act and the union contract, and provides those checks and balances utilized by union employees. For example, managers can manipulate the system to hire and fire as many employees as desired….I’ve seen it happen. All that turnover is a HUGE expense to the taxpayers. The union tries and is successful at stopping that kind of behavior.

By: snarf

snarf — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:38:42 +0000

Reagan’s OK on local collective bargaining was an error, but Cities can fall with only local fallout, whereas the state’s pensions debt threatens us all.

The State is more remote and harder for everyday voters to influence, whereas business and labor have lobbyists there all the time.

Brown’s decision in 1978 was an unmitigated disaster. It made state officials looking to fatten their own pension complicit with unions, essentially depriving the voters of a voice at the table.

This is what you get when you elect inexperienced quirky politicians like Brown. And stupid, country-club republicans like Evelle Younger. Neither had any sense of history or of why small government is a good thing. Now we do but its a little late.

By: John Coleman

John Coleman — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:02:11 +0000

Uh, SeeSaw and stevefromsacto, if the Governor doesn’t have an adversarial relationship with the unions, won’t he give them even MORE goodies?

Wouldn’t that make the problem even worse?

Just sayin.

By: Go Bankrupt, California, Please | Conservatives for America

Go Bankrupt, California, Please | Conservatives for America — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:01:42 +0000

[…] same folks who brought you this mess. When Governor Brown was previously the governor he signed the Dills Act in 1978 that gave civil servants the right to collective bargaining. He did this on his very first day in […]

By: stevefromsacto

stevefromsacto — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:42:47 +0000

Amen, SeeSaw!

By: Sands

Sands — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:40:21 +0000

“The Dills Act pertained only to California State employees. ”

True.

The Governor is in charge of the state an not local cities.

The state pensions are pushing the state economy down.

By: Eugene Putman

Eugene Putman — Fri, 22 Oct 2010 03:05:20 +0000

Let’s not forget–while the Colective Bargaining units ASK for more–it’s the govening body that grants the finale prize. Governing bodies have added to the mess as much as anyone. Strike for more? In most cases it is illegal for Public Service members to walk off the job, hinch, Blue Flu.

By: Marie T.

Marie T. — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 04:25:43 +0000

It doesn’t matter whether Brown or Reagan was responsible. Any bad bill that creates a financially unsustainable system is wrong. It has nothing to do do with “the way working people should be treated.” Such notions are entirely subjective, often selfish and now we know the more important, underlying bankruptcy crisis such arguments mask to the detriment of our state and local communities. Everybody should be treated well, but within our means, not just “working” people and not through preferential legislation that creates an non-level playing field and unfair advantage to union power at the expense of the rest of us.

By: SeeSaw

SeeSaw — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:45:35 +0000

Sure, why don’t we chastize Brown for treating the state employees like working people should be treated. That is why he should be elected again, and I hope he will be.

End the adversarial relationship between the Governor and the State employees, and you will see how much smoother things will run in Sacramento.

Go Jerry, Go!