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		By: Wayne Lusvardi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reply to &quot;Charles&quot;
Dear Sir: The study you are citing is at this link: http://stateworker.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/state-workers-inflation-vs-cola-year-over-year/

The analysis provided at the above link is an example of lying with statistics.  The average salary for private sector is shown for 2000-2009 but not for the public sector.  Is this because public sector average pay was higher?  Evidently so or the person who conducted the study would have included it.

Most studies I have reviewed show there is no difference between public and private sector pay when compared with large private companies of 500 or more employees.  But the average pay for public employees is not the whole issue.  It is the sheer number of public employees who have &quot;non-essential&quot; or &quot;make work&quot; jobs.  See my analysis on this this website of how most of proposed school budget cuts are fluff.  About 45% of the entire state school budget of some $44 billion is for categorical ancillary jobs (not core teaching) and overly small class sizes.

As a public employee for most of my career I can attest to this phenomenon personally.  In the military I observed how during peacetime the army had too many troops with nothing to do.  When I was put into combat in a war I noticed how everyone suddenly &quot;had a job to do,&quot; not make work or endless training exercises.

Many of our big water agencies are like this with whole armies of engineers with nothing to do until the next big water project comes around.  Such agencies should never have hired permanent employees on this basis but should have put them on a labor contract instead.

Most of the Federal Stimulus monies for California went to bail out public sector jobs with the exception of road improvement projects which hired some construction workers. But there are about 6 private sector employees out of work for every one government employee in California.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to &#8220;Charles&#8221;<br />
Dear Sir: The study you are citing is at this link: <a href="http://stateworker.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/state-workers-inflation-vs-cola-year-over-year/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://stateworker.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/state-workers-inflation-vs-cola-year-over-year/</a></p>
<p>The analysis provided at the above link is an example of lying with statistics.  The average salary for private sector is shown for 2000-2009 but not for the public sector.  Is this because public sector average pay was higher?  Evidently so or the person who conducted the study would have included it.</p>
<p>Most studies I have reviewed show there is no difference between public and private sector pay when compared with large private companies of 500 or more employees.  But the average pay for public employees is not the whole issue.  It is the sheer number of public employees who have &#8220;non-essential&#8221; or &#8220;make work&#8221; jobs.  See my analysis on this this website of how most of proposed school budget cuts are fluff.  About 45% of the entire state school budget of some $44 billion is for categorical ancillary jobs (not core teaching) and overly small class sizes.</p>
<p>As a public employee for most of my career I can attest to this phenomenon personally.  In the military I observed how during peacetime the army had too many troops with nothing to do.  When I was put into combat in a war I noticed how everyone suddenly &#8220;had a job to do,&#8221; not make work or endless training exercises.</p>
<p>Many of our big water agencies are like this with whole armies of engineers with nothing to do until the next big water project comes around.  Such agencies should never have hired permanent employees on this basis but should have put them on a labor contract instead.</p>
<p>Most of the Federal Stimulus monies for California went to bail out public sector jobs with the exception of road improvement projects which hired some construction workers. But there are about 6 private sector employees out of work for every one government employee in California.</p>
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		By: Charles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Rider, Chairman San Diego Tax Fighters says:

&quot;We need to gut the public employee power in CA — which is maintained through their powerful public employee labor unions. Contract out their jobs, and we’ll have smaller, less significant government labor unions.&quot;

Wages in California’s private sector increased 32.73% in nominal terms for the 10 year period 2000 – 2009. Inflation during this period was a modest 25.4%. Therefore, California Private Sector Wages increased 7.33% in REAL terms for the 10 year period ending 2009.

Wages for California Civil Service Employees increased only 6.9% in nominal terms for the 10 year period 2000 – 2009. After adjusting for inflation, California Civil Service Employees lost (18.5%) of their REAL wages for the 10 year period ending 2009.

&quot;powerful public employee labor unions&quot;?

You must be kidding, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Rider, Chairman San Diego Tax Fighters says:</p>
<p>&#8220;We need to gut the public employee power in CA — which is maintained through their powerful public employee labor unions. Contract out their jobs, and we’ll have smaller, less significant government labor unions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wages in California’s private sector increased 32.73% in nominal terms for the 10 year period 2000 – 2009. Inflation during this period was a modest 25.4%. Therefore, California Private Sector Wages increased 7.33% in REAL terms for the 10 year period ending 2009.</p>
<p>Wages for California Civil Service Employees increased only 6.9% in nominal terms for the 10 year period 2000 – 2009. After adjusting for inflation, California Civil Service Employees lost (18.5%) of their REAL wages for the 10 year period ending 2009.</p>
<p>&#8220;powerful public employee labor unions&#8221;?</p>
<p>You must be kidding, right?</p>
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		By: Wayne Lusvardi		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/12/14/ca-budget-filled-with-luxury-items/#comment-3293</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[K-12 schools are 40% of the state $89 billion General Fund Budget.  Of that about 42% is for categorical or ancillary programs and small class sizes.  If the recommendations of the Legislative Analyst&#039;s Office (LAO) are accepted then those ancillary school services and categorical jobs are going to have to be cut.  Another way to go about cutting the state budget is not outsourcing in the conventional sense but by relying on charter schools which do not have the overhead for categorical programs.  Gov.-elect Jerry Brown has no choice at this point as the money isn&#039;t there and the quickest way to cut losses is cut the state school budget.  This does not have to entail firing core classroom teachers, only ancillary personnel according to the LAO.  Read about this tomorrow at CalWatchDog.com.  Thanks for your comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K-12 schools are 40% of the state $89 billion General Fund Budget.  Of that about 42% is for categorical or ancillary programs and small class sizes.  If the recommendations of the Legislative Analyst&#8217;s Office (LAO) are accepted then those ancillary school services and categorical jobs are going to have to be cut.  Another way to go about cutting the state budget is not outsourcing in the conventional sense but by relying on charter schools which do not have the overhead for categorical programs.  Gov.-elect Jerry Brown has no choice at this point as the money isn&#8217;t there and the quickest way to cut losses is cut the state school budget.  This does not have to entail firing core classroom teachers, only ancillary personnel according to the LAO.  Read about this tomorrow at CalWatchDog.com.  Thanks for your comment.</p>
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		By: StevefromSacto		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Outsourcing does not guarantee less costly programs and certainly doesn&#039;t guarantee quality services. Why is it that we should turn over our state to the private sector (which, as you recall, is primarily responsible for the financial mess our nation finds itself in today)?  Why should we allow companies whose sole purpose is to make a profit to help determine the kind of care our most vulnerable citizens receive?

Yes, in some cases, outsourcing may be the way to go.  But in no way does one size fit all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outsourcing does not guarantee less costly programs and certainly doesn&#8217;t guarantee quality services. Why is it that we should turn over our state to the private sector (which, as you recall, is primarily responsible for the financial mess our nation finds itself in today)?  Why should we allow companies whose sole purpose is to make a profit to help determine the kind of care our most vulnerable citizens receive?</p>
<p>Yes, in some cases, outsourcing may be the way to go.  But in no way does one size fit all.</p>
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		By: Richard Rider, Chairman San Diego Tax Fighters		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2010/12/14/ca-budget-filled-with-luxury-items/#comment-3291</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Rider, Chairman San Diego Tax Fighters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This article is excellent!  But it&#039;s not the whole story.

The lesson of Greenhut&#039;s book &quot;Plunder&quot; -- which exposes our California state and local public employee aristocracy living the life of Poodle -- is that the governor needs to add a third (or perhaps fourth) voter option to his false &quot;either-or&quot; choice.  It&#039;s not just less services or more taxes -- the issue he&#039;s dodging is how best to DELIVER desired public services.

This third option offers at least two avenues of massive savings:

1.  Reduce the clearly excessive public employee pay and benefits -- something politicians are loathe to do on their own.

2.  Don&#039;t use public employees to provide most public services -- contract every possible government function out using COMPETITIVE bidding.  Contract out most of our prisons, our libraries, the DMV (as does Missouri), education (via vouchers or tax credits), parks and many other state and local functions.

I prefer the second avenue for three reasons:

   A.  Savings for taxpayers would start at 30% -- and in this day and age, could easily exceed 50%.

   B.  Such pressure will encourage existing public employees to accept significant cuts in their compensation.

   C.  We need to gut the public employee power in CA -- which is maintained through their powerful public employee labor unions.  Contract out their jobs, and we&#039;ll have smaller, less significant government labor unions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is excellent!  But it&#8217;s not the whole story.</p>
<p>The lesson of Greenhut&#8217;s book &#8220;Plunder&#8221; &#8212; which exposes our California state and local public employee aristocracy living the life of Poodle &#8212; is that the governor needs to add a third (or perhaps fourth) voter option to his false &#8220;either-or&#8221; choice.  It&#8217;s not just less services or more taxes &#8212; the issue he&#8217;s dodging is how best to DELIVER desired public services.</p>
<p>This third option offers at least two avenues of massive savings:</p>
<p>1.  Reduce the clearly excessive public employee pay and benefits &#8212; something politicians are loathe to do on their own.</p>
<p>2.  Don&#8217;t use public employees to provide most public services &#8212; contract every possible government function out using COMPETITIVE bidding.  Contract out most of our prisons, our libraries, the DMV (as does Missouri), education (via vouchers or tax credits), parks and many other state and local functions.</p>
<p>I prefer the second avenue for three reasons:</p>
<p>   A.  Savings for taxpayers would start at 30% &#8212; and in this day and age, could easily exceed 50%.</p>
<p>   B.  Such pressure will encourage existing public employees to accept significant cuts in their compensation.</p>
<p>   C.  We need to gut the public employee power in CA &#8212; which is maintained through their powerful public employee labor unions.  Contract out their jobs, and we&#8217;ll have smaller, less significant government labor unions.</p>
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