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		By: StevefromSacto		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2011/03/28/dems-put-brakes-on-budget-train-wreck/#comment-4458</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StevefromSacto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We have gone to the point where even attempting to negotiate is verboten, it makes one cringe for our future.  Legislators like Cannella and Berryhill are targeted because they dared to sit down with our governor to try to reach a compromise. How can we really have a workable state if we can&#039;t even work together?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have gone to the point where even attempting to negotiate is verboten, it makes one cringe for our future.  Legislators like Cannella and Berryhill are targeted because they dared to sit down with our governor to try to reach a compromise. How can we really have a workable state if we can&#8217;t even work together?</p>
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		By: Charles		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2011/03/28/dems-put-brakes-on-budget-train-wreck/#comment-4457</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[1) Tax all public employee pensions over 40,000 $ at a 90% rate

Never fly.  Discriminatory and unconstitutional.


2) Withhold the amount from current employee salaries the amount of money it will take to pay present and future benefits

Subject to collective bargaining.  Also you have to raise wages substantially or you would no workforce.  This would essentially be a 40% wage cut.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Tax all public employee pensions over 40,000 $ at a 90% rate</p>
<p>Never fly.  Discriminatory and unconstitutional.</p>
<p>2) Withhold the amount from current employee salaries the amount of money it will take to pay present and future benefits</p>
<p>Subject to collective bargaining.  Also you have to raise wages substantially or you would no workforce.  This would essentially be a 40% wage cut.</p>
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		By: Roy Bleckert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Bleckert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fix for public employee pensions

1) Tax all public employee pensions over 40,000 $ at a 90% rate

Or

2) Withhold the amount from current employee salaries the amount of money it will take to pay present and future benefits

That would defacto either reduce the amount current pensioners draw or current employees will pay for current &#038; future benefits ?

If the Legislature &#038; Governor would put that on the table ?

Maybe Public Employees would renegotiate in good faith a equatable solution to the pension tsunami ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fix for public employee pensions</p>
<p>1) Tax all public employee pensions over 40,000 $ at a 90% rate</p>
<p>Or</p>
<p>2) Withhold the amount from current employee salaries the amount of money it will take to pay present and future benefits</p>
<p>That would defacto either reduce the amount current pensioners draw or current employees will pay for current &amp; future benefits ?</p>
<p>If the Legislature &amp; Governor would put that on the table ?</p>
<p>Maybe Public Employees would renegotiate in good faith a equatable solution to the pension tsunami ?</p>
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		By: CWPeters		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2011/03/28/dems-put-brakes-on-budget-train-wreck/#comment-4455</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CWPeters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is interesting to see how an article reads regarding public employee pensions is slanted given the background of the &#039;journalist.&#039; As a current State employee I acknowledge that a growing number of public employee pensions are astronomical and unsustainable. However, things must be kept in context and the public should be made aware of the actual facts – not the ‘political facts, or the ‘popular opinion’ of the latest and greatest reform group of the week is.

First, the public in general is not always aware that every pension that is managed and administered by CalPERS does not belong to a State employee. A significant number of these pensions are for the employees of Counties, Local Municipalities, and Special Districts throughout California. These government entities contracted with CalPERS to administer their pension plans, and most importantly these pension plans are the very plans in the greatest financial distress. The pension payouts for these plans are in many cases more generous than the standard CalPERS pension received by a State employee. Many of these non public safety employees receive a 2.7 at 55 pension payout. Until recently your standard State employee (Non Public Safety) would receive a 2.5 at 55 pension payout.

Second, the salary schedules granted to most of the employees of contracted agencies is much more generous than the salary package received by a State employee in the same or very similar occupation. This point of fact is especially applicable when public safety and non public safety positions are compared. Remember the Cal-Trans executive who recently left State service to take over a large Southern California Transportation Authority? He negotiated a three-year deal and the accompanying annual salary was a hefty $255,000 that also included $75,000 in relocation costs, six months of severance compensation, and $25,000 in deferred compensation. His salary while a State employee was $150,000. How about the Fire Chief who served Orinda and Moraga whose annual salary was $186,000 and ‘legally’ spiked his pension with unused vacation and holiday leave to walk out with an annual pension of $241,000. To compound the matter this Chief was then re-hired as a consultant where he received $176,000 with no reduction in his pension payments. Situations similar to these occur regularly because significant numbers of government agencies have sought salary formulations that automatically create a ratchet effect on public employee compensation because the salary schedules are interconnected. Compare the figures described above to the $36,000 a year pension received by 78% of all CalPERS retirees.

Third, much of the outcry that public employee pensions are unsustainable is recent and appears all too convenient. How many folks know that the State and many CalPERS contracting agencies were not required to make pension contributions during the boom years? The impact to CalPERS due to the recent economic distress is undeniable; however, it seems very ironic that little attention has been given to the recovery of the CalPERS balance sheet. It is also important to understand that current conditions will not persist. Pension plans rise and fall with the markets and trying to apply today’s conditions to the future is foolish and defies common sense. History has proven that markets will consistently provide steady returns between 8 and 10 percent over periods that exceed 10 years. Why does it seem everyone is in a rush to ‘reform’ public employee pensions before the economy has even recovered?

Lastly, I do agree public employee pension reform is important and necessary. However, we all know that ‘reform for the sake of reform’ will wind up being symbolic at best and will most likely only impact the ‘average’ employee. I also believe the recent increase in employee contributions is a good start. However, as economic conditions improve and the sting of furloughs subside that public employees must consider additional increases if the economy continues to languish and the CalPERS portfolio does not recover entirely. Real and lasting reform can only be achieved by curbing the excesses seen in many local districts, by capping the amount of pension payout to that of Social Security ($106,000 w/ annual COLA), and by reevaluating the overly generous compensation received by local elected officials, political appointees, public safety employees, and special district employees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting to see how an article reads regarding public employee pensions is slanted given the background of the &#8216;journalist.&#8217; As a current State employee I acknowledge that a growing number of public employee pensions are astronomical and unsustainable. However, things must be kept in context and the public should be made aware of the actual facts – not the ‘political facts, or the ‘popular opinion’ of the latest and greatest reform group of the week is.</p>
<p>First, the public in general is not always aware that every pension that is managed and administered by CalPERS does not belong to a State employee. A significant number of these pensions are for the employees of Counties, Local Municipalities, and Special Districts throughout California. These government entities contracted with CalPERS to administer their pension plans, and most importantly these pension plans are the very plans in the greatest financial distress. The pension payouts for these plans are in many cases more generous than the standard CalPERS pension received by a State employee. Many of these non public safety employees receive a 2.7 at 55 pension payout. Until recently your standard State employee (Non Public Safety) would receive a 2.5 at 55 pension payout.</p>
<p>Second, the salary schedules granted to most of the employees of contracted agencies is much more generous than the salary package received by a State employee in the same or very similar occupation. This point of fact is especially applicable when public safety and non public safety positions are compared. Remember the Cal-Trans executive who recently left State service to take over a large Southern California Transportation Authority? He negotiated a three-year deal and the accompanying annual salary was a hefty $255,000 that also included $75,000 in relocation costs, six months of severance compensation, and $25,000 in deferred compensation. His salary while a State employee was $150,000. How about the Fire Chief who served Orinda and Moraga whose annual salary was $186,000 and ‘legally’ spiked his pension with unused vacation and holiday leave to walk out with an annual pension of $241,000. To compound the matter this Chief was then re-hired as a consultant where he received $176,000 with no reduction in his pension payments. Situations similar to these occur regularly because significant numbers of government agencies have sought salary formulations that automatically create a ratchet effect on public employee compensation because the salary schedules are interconnected. Compare the figures described above to the $36,000 a year pension received by 78% of all CalPERS retirees.</p>
<p>Third, much of the outcry that public employee pensions are unsustainable is recent and appears all too convenient. How many folks know that the State and many CalPERS contracting agencies were not required to make pension contributions during the boom years? The impact to CalPERS due to the recent economic distress is undeniable; however, it seems very ironic that little attention has been given to the recovery of the CalPERS balance sheet. It is also important to understand that current conditions will not persist. Pension plans rise and fall with the markets and trying to apply today’s conditions to the future is foolish and defies common sense. History has proven that markets will consistently provide steady returns between 8 and 10 percent over periods that exceed 10 years. Why does it seem everyone is in a rush to ‘reform’ public employee pensions before the economy has even recovered?</p>
<p>Lastly, I do agree public employee pension reform is important and necessary. However, we all know that ‘reform for the sake of reform’ will wind up being symbolic at best and will most likely only impact the ‘average’ employee. I also believe the recent increase in employee contributions is a good start. However, as economic conditions improve and the sting of furloughs subside that public employees must consider additional increases if the economy continues to languish and the CalPERS portfolio does not recover entirely. Real and lasting reform can only be achieved by curbing the excesses seen in many local districts, by capping the amount of pension payout to that of Social Security ($106,000 w/ annual COLA), and by reevaluating the overly generous compensation received by local elected officials, political appointees, public safety employees, and special district employees.</p>
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		By: mesa15		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2011/03/28/dems-put-brakes-on-budget-train-wreck/#comment-4454</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mesa15]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[wow... The truth about cal.  You never see that.  And I bet the hollywood film was filmed in canada]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230; The truth about cal.  You never see that.  And I bet the hollywood film was filmed in canada</p>
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		By: John Steele		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2011/03/28/dems-put-brakes-on-budget-train-wreck/#comment-4453</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Steele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s about time that the voters start to wake up and see what the politicans and  Unions have done to a once great State. Even Democrats voters and politicans are starting to see the disaster coming. Instead of trying to extend taxes. Jerry should just start taking an ax to the state budget and cut it by 26 billion. Let the cards fall were they may.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time that the voters start to wake up and see what the politicans and  Unions have done to a once great State. Even Democrats voters and politicans are starting to see the disaster coming. Instead of trying to extend taxes. Jerry should just start taking an ax to the state budget and cut it by 26 billion. Let the cards fall were they may.</p>
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		By: EconProf		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2011/03/28/dems-put-brakes-on-budget-train-wreck/#comment-4452</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EconProf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 04:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for telling the truth that the Pension Tsunami will eat the budget of every left-favored program.  The hypocrisy of the public employee unions in their claim to help the poor and downtrodden is revealed.  They have Cadillac pensions and pay and are bleeding the state of businesses and middle-class taxpayers, dooming us to a third-world state of haves and have-nots.  Our unemployment rate is now second-worst in the nation...so much for helping our workers and poor who want jobs.  Thanks, public unions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for telling the truth that the Pension Tsunami will eat the budget of every left-favored program.  The hypocrisy of the public employee unions in their claim to help the poor and downtrodden is revealed.  They have Cadillac pensions and pay and are bleeding the state of businesses and middle-class taxpayers, dooming us to a third-world state of haves and have-nots.  Our unemployment rate is now second-worst in the nation&#8230;so much for helping our workers and poor who want jobs.  Thanks, public unions.</p>
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