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		By: Keep da Peace		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2011/06/24/anaheim-gives-pass-to-pervert-cop/#comment-5445</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, Steve, it is true that you hate public employees and in particular, public safety. Once only has to look over your many editorials dating back to your days with the Register to determine that you don&#039;t think much of them.

I agree that public safety (there are many more than just municipal police and fire) can be inconsistent in applying appropriate consequences for those who fail to measure up. As a whole, the public safety community does a pretty good job of weeding out those who are likely to offend. But, as one of my supervisors once said, the psych test doesn&#039;t get them all.

That said, you constantly hark against public safety but you rarely, if ever, offer a substantial solution. To say the system needs to be fixed, is simplistic and unserving. POST offers standards for public safety officers. As far as I know, most law enforcement agencies follow them.

Now, if you are talking about the so-called Peace Officer Bill of Rights, let&#039;s remember where these came from. Years ago, law enforcement officers were being unfairly punished for political concerns. If a politician needed a scapegoat he only needed to look at the police department. Police officers did not give up there rights when (neither should any public servant) they pinned on their badge. But, it seemed that they were being unfairly singled out.

Would you have us go back to that? Should any employee be subject to that kind of treatment based on the whim of their employer? Your editorials seem to say yes. I say no.

Back to the two articles you have presented: The article concerning Wagner seems to say that he actually went to prison in April. But, both of these can be blamed on the courts, not on their respective departments. It is the lawyers and the judges that are allowing these kind of shenanigans to go on. So, blast the ones who are doing this, not the departments who have no interest in condoning such behavior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Steve, it is true that you hate public employees and in particular, public safety. Once only has to look over your many editorials dating back to your days with the Register to determine that you don&#8217;t think much of them.</p>
<p>I agree that public safety (there are many more than just municipal police and fire) can be inconsistent in applying appropriate consequences for those who fail to measure up. As a whole, the public safety community does a pretty good job of weeding out those who are likely to offend. But, as one of my supervisors once said, the psych test doesn&#8217;t get them all.</p>
<p>That said, you constantly hark against public safety but you rarely, if ever, offer a substantial solution. To say the system needs to be fixed, is simplistic and unserving. POST offers standards for public safety officers. As far as I know, most law enforcement agencies follow them.</p>
<p>Now, if you are talking about the so-called Peace Officer Bill of Rights, let&#8217;s remember where these came from. Years ago, law enforcement officers were being unfairly punished for political concerns. If a politician needed a scapegoat he only needed to look at the police department. Police officers did not give up there rights when (neither should any public servant) they pinned on their badge. But, it seemed that they were being unfairly singled out.</p>
<p>Would you have us go back to that? Should any employee be subject to that kind of treatment based on the whim of their employer? Your editorials seem to say yes. I say no.</p>
<p>Back to the two articles you have presented: The article concerning Wagner seems to say that he actually went to prison in April. But, both of these can be blamed on the courts, not on their respective departments. It is the lawyers and the judges that are allowing these kind of shenanigans to go on. So, blast the ones who are doing this, not the departments who have no interest in condoning such behavior.</p>
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		By: Centurion		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2011/06/24/anaheim-gives-pass-to-pervert-cop/#comment-5444</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is called &quot;plea bargaining&quot; and it is very common in California and elsewhere.   Thugs, perverts, and people who sell drugs, steal, and cause real harm to others do it all the time in this country and receive lighter sentences, so why shouldn&#039;t he get the same treatment?    (This is why I laugh at the contention that the state of Califronia is about to free thousands of offenders &quot;convicted of mostly minor offenses.&quot;)   Uh Huh....

Lewd photographs and public nudity, do not, in and of  themselves, constitute a danger or threat to public safety, despite what you might think.  Absent any overt predatgory behavior against another human being....they are misdemeanors.

The guy has lost his job and  will undoubtably do some probation.   Which is about as much as any other first time offender would, would receive in this state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is called &#8220;plea bargaining&#8221; and it is very common in California and elsewhere.   Thugs, perverts, and people who sell drugs, steal, and cause real harm to others do it all the time in this country and receive lighter sentences, so why shouldn&#8217;t he get the same treatment?    (This is why I laugh at the contention that the state of Califronia is about to free thousands of offenders &#8220;convicted of mostly minor offenses.&#8221;)   Uh Huh&#8230;.</p>
<p>Lewd photographs and public nudity, do not, in and of  themselves, constitute a danger or threat to public safety, despite what you might think.  Absent any overt predatgory behavior against another human being&#8230;.they are misdemeanors.</p>
<p>The guy has lost his job and  will undoubtably do some probation.   Which is about as much as any other first time offender would, would receive in this state.</p>
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		By: David from Oceanside		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2011/06/24/anaheim-gives-pass-to-pervert-cop/#comment-5443</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David from Oceanside]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have noticed that our wise overlord public servants sometimes exhibit anger just like us common folk.

I test this theory on a daily basis with a bumper sticker on my 94 Toyota. The bumper sticker has that little fire helmet you that see on late model mint condition SUV&#039;s and trucks, only this bumper sticker also says U OWE Us We Own U.

It is not uncommon to have one of our wise overlord public servants drive beside me and scream a long stream of four letter words. I have learned to smile in return.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed that our wise overlord public servants sometimes exhibit anger just like us common folk.</p>
<p>I test this theory on a daily basis with a bumper sticker on my 94 Toyota. The bumper sticker has that little fire helmet you that see on late model mint condition SUV&#8217;s and trucks, only this bumper sticker also says U OWE Us We Own U.</p>
<p>It is not uncommon to have one of our wise overlord public servants drive beside me and scream a long stream of four letter words. I have learned to smile in return.</p>
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		By: Steven Greenhut		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2011/06/24/anaheim-gives-pass-to-pervert-cop/#comment-5442</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Greenhut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t hate anyone, and have nothing against people working in government, even thought I think government is far too big and that many police policies need serious improvement. But I do dislike the union protections that make it nearly impossible to fire or discipline those government officials who abuse their authority and the &quot;professional courtesy&quot; attitude that gives a pass to current and former law enforcement who misbehave. These are not anomalies but the standard operating procedure. Here&#039;s another great example from Anaheim, which is typical from what I have seen:

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/03/how_has_the_dirty_anaheim_cop.php]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t hate anyone, and have nothing against people working in government, even thought I think government is far too big and that many police policies need serious improvement. But I do dislike the union protections that make it nearly impossible to fire or discipline those government officials who abuse their authority and the &#8220;professional courtesy&#8221; attitude that gives a pass to current and former law enforcement who misbehave. These are not anomalies but the standard operating procedure. Here&#8217;s another great example from Anaheim, which is typical from what I have seen:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/03/how_has_the_dirty_anaheim_cop.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/03/how_has_the_dirty_anaheim_cop.php</a></p>
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		By: Keep da Peace		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2011/06/24/anaheim-gives-pass-to-pervert-cop/#comment-5441</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keep da Peace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Typical &quot;I hate public safety because they get awaywith it&quot; mentality. It&#039;s no secret you hate cops and anyone else in government service, Steve. The complaints get old. My department continually hammers into me that we are held to a higher standard. Punishment is swift and just for transgressions. The vast majority of public safety are fine, upstanding people who know what carrying the badge means. Yet, you choose to pick out a select few that you don&#039;t think received what they should. As with mostbof your stories, I&#039;m sure there is more to it than what you want to tell us. Omission is as bad as commission.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical &#8220;I hate public safety because they get awaywith it&#8221; mentality. It&#8217;s no secret you hate cops and anyone else in government service, Steve. The complaints get old. My department continually hammers into me that we are held to a higher standard. Punishment is swift and just for transgressions. The vast majority of public safety are fine, upstanding people who know what carrying the badge means. Yet, you choose to pick out a select few that you don&#8217;t think received what they should. As with mostbof your stories, I&#8217;m sure there is more to it than what you want to tell us. Omission is as bad as commission.</p>
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