Comments on: Brown: Proving The ‘Declinists’ Wrong

By: Brown: Proving The ‘Declinists’ Wrong–Via Higher Taxes and Bigger Gov’t

Fri, 20 Jan 2012 05:35:01 +0000

[…] am proud to be a “declinest”. I decline your version of State control of my life. Brown: Proving The ‘Declinists’ Wrong By KATY GRIMES, CalWatchdog, 1/18/12 Was it Gov. Jerry Brown’s State of the State address […]

By: Beelzebub

Beelzebub — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:21:40 +0000

Here is the fundamental problem, particularly in California: There are more California residents sucking on the government teat than not. If you include those who are drawing government pensions, those on social security, medicare, medicaid, veteran’s health care, Section 8 or drawing some type of government paycheck – we are talking well over 50% of the California population. If you do not receive some type of regular government stipend or benefit – you are in the minority. You’re outnumbered. Their voice is louder than yours. So the beast will continue to grow until it kills the host and dies a natural death. How long that will take is pure guesswork. After 2008 I thought 2011 would see the 2nd leg down. I was wrong. They might be able to kick the can down the road another 10 years. Who knows??? But the beast will eventually die because none of the math makes any sense. If you are a producer and don’t get any government skittles – your only real hope for a quality life is to flee the state. Otherwise the leeches will eat you alive.

By: queeg

queeg — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 05:49:06 +0000

This site draws propagandists…..no tax is a good tax!!!!

Shills for bloated government and the welfare state cannot tell the truth!!!!

Unemployment will be extremely high due to a failed public school system…millions with marginal or no skills!!!

So cut the lies libs….you have failed and your new governor will fail due to not representing all the people just unions, goverment workers and the nightmare bullet train and enviro nut jobs!!!

By: Barb

Barb — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 05:45:48 +0000

And to think that Ca is stuck with brown until 2014! Deplorable!

By: Ron Kilmartin

Ron Kilmartin — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 04:55:41 +0000

Brown’s uniformed defense of AB 32, etc., could support a constitutional requirement for politicians to have a couple years of pre-qualification incollege science. His support of more taxes, bullet trains, etc., indicates a fundamental ignorance of how the American Economic System works. You cannot have the ruling class living on 2 to 3 times the wages of the working class. It is a formula for disaster, if not revolution. The California bureaucracy – the “petite functionaires” – must be drastically cut, starting with the AB32 people and continuing with other agencies that did not exist in his father’s administration. We need liberty; but Brown is going the way of King George III.

By: CalWatchdog

CalWatchdog — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:46:26 +0000

Steve Maviglio is quoting this week’s George Skelton column. Both miss the point, which I have made, that California spending depends exactly on median income. Because median income has dropped, therefore state spending must drop, too. Increasing taxes only would hammer median income, ironically forcing more spending cuts. By the way, how did Arnold’s tax increases work out? Did they solve the budget problem? Here’s my article, with a nice graph: http://www.calwatchdog.com/2011/12/07/state-cant-support-more-spendin/

— John Seiler

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:58:55 +0000

Ah Caltrans…our US senator Dirty Dianne wants to hand over the Cawleefornia Boondogle Train…er…Bullet Train to Caltrans.

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:57:38 +0000

Steven:

Show me a state that has a marginal tax rate in excess of 9% that kicks in around 47k. Also, Cawleefornia (as Anode calls it) has the third highest sales tax of any state.

You can manipulate statistics any way you want but it still does not get away from the fact that this state is a high tax state.

By: Wayne Lusvardi

Wayne Lusvardi — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:29:39 +0000

Isn’t it misleading to compare California taxes on an income per person basis when has a diverse tax base from income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, corporate taxes, capital gains taxes and estate taxes, let alone local utility user’s taxes and school parcel taxes?

By: Beelzebub

Beelzebub — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:26:38 +0000

Mr. Clown said that “California is still the land of dreams”. Sure it is if you happen to be a leech. If you are a government worker and make 2-3 times more than you are actually worth it’s the ‘land of dreams’. Or if you are a welfare recipient and collect a check from the taxpayers without being required to labor for it that would be a ‘land of dreams’. Did you hear Clown say in his speech that California has 12% of the nation’s population and 33% of the nation’s welfare recipients? Of course not. But that pretty much says it all. If you are a producer it’s more a ‘land of nightmares’ – because they take whatever you produce and hand it over to the leeches. It’s not going to change, folks. You have two real options. Stick around and become a leech yourself or flee the state to keep what you have.