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	Comments on: AB 32 Feeds CA Aristocratic Socialists	</title>
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		By: JustaRegularPatriot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very well put, even with the grammatical errors and incomplete sentences.

So, all you naysayers, what are you gonna tell you grandkids when they are, for all practical purposes, a &quot;&#039;free&#039;{yeah right} ward of the state&quot; in the coming decades as we continue this downward ?

DeToqueville was right: 
 The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public&#039;s money.

Trouble is, they (Congress) are running out of $$ so they&#039;re looking for more &#038; more ways to enslave you via hidden taxation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put, even with the grammatical errors and incomplete sentences.</p>
<p>So, all you naysayers, what are you gonna tell you grandkids when they are, for all practical purposes, a &#8220;&#8216;free'{yeah right} ward of the state&#8221; in the coming decades as we continue this downward ?</p>
<p>DeToqueville was right:<br />
 The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public&#8217;s money.</p>
<p>Trouble is, they (Congress) are running out of $$ so they&#8217;re looking for more &amp; more ways to enslave you via hidden taxation.</p>
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		By: Capitalist Pig		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/09/ab-32-feeds-ca-aristocratic-socialists/#comment-14786</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capitalist Pig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SkippingDog, how many times does Socialism need to fail before you and your ilk will acknowledge its incompatibility with a free (and prosperous) society?  When does your need to feed off the labor of others end?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SkippingDog, how many times does Socialism need to fail before you and your ilk will acknowledge its incompatibility with a free (and prosperous) society?  When does your need to feed off the labor of others end?</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/09/ab-32-feeds-ca-aristocratic-socialists/#comment-14785</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Democracy comes in a number of different flavors, Joe, and none of them meet the definition of classic socialism.  There&#039;s nothing in our Constitution that requires us to stay with only one kind or only the same kind that people preferred at different points in our history.

A social democracy is still a free form of government that would be fully acceptable under the &quot;republican form of government&quot; generally prescribed by our Constitution.  It may not be what you would personally want, nor perhaps what someone like Jefferson might like, but it would nevertheless be acceptable under democratic principles and under our own Constitution if that&#039;s the course we should choose.

The key ingredient is always liberty, but even the most anti-federalist of our forefathers didn&#039;t confuse individual liberty with license.  Ordered liberty, directed toward the formation of &quot;a more perfect union,&quot; has been the goal since at least 1789.  There&#039;s nothing underhanded or un-American about pursuing those goals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democracy comes in a number of different flavors, Joe, and none of them meet the definition of classic socialism.  There&#8217;s nothing in our Constitution that requires us to stay with only one kind or only the same kind that people preferred at different points in our history.</p>
<p>A social democracy is still a free form of government that would be fully acceptable under the &#8220;republican form of government&#8221; generally prescribed by our Constitution.  It may not be what you would personally want, nor perhaps what someone like Jefferson might like, but it would nevertheless be acceptable under democratic principles and under our own Constitution if that&#8217;s the course we should choose.</p>
<p>The key ingredient is always liberty, but even the most anti-federalist of our forefathers didn&#8217;t confuse individual liberty with license.  Ordered liberty, directed toward the formation of &#8220;a more perfect union,&#8221; has been the goal since at least 1789.  There&#8217;s nothing underhanded or un-American about pursuing those goals.</p>
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		By: Joe Sullivan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two hundred twenty-eight years ago, on July 4th 1776, 56 men signed a Declaration of Independence, creating a democracy to be governed by representatives elected by its’ people. And so was born the United States of America (USA), not the first such government, but surely the greatest and strongest the world has ever seen. Nobel Peace Prize winner Professor Elie Wiesel, a Holocaust survivor, accurately defined the USA as “a county which, for two centuries, has stood as a living symbol of all that is charitable and decent to victims of injustice everywhere-a country in which every person is entitled to dream of happiness, peace, and liberty; where those who have are taught to give back.” 
The strength exhibited by Wiesel’s definition, administered by a representative government, is also the nation’s greatest weakness. I have lived through one-third of the nation’s history, encompassing The Great Depression, combat during World War II, and as a father with children during the defective 60s. And now I watch with fearful eyes as the United States’ population divests itself of moral values; is silent as it surrenders its’ liberties; permits our educational system to degrade; and supports socialistic invasion of our democracy.
We passively relinquish more of our personal freedoms to every level of government, utterly unaware, by our own inattentive and apathetic behavior, that we are slowly, but surely permitting a caretaker nation to be established by representatives we elect to govern us. Once, before a 4th of July celebration, President Reagan worried about government intrusion into our daily lives. Reacting to ever increasing social programs, he said, “what was to be celebrated was Independence Day, not Dependence Day.” And British Professor Alexander Tytler wrote over 200 years ago, “when voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury, the majority always votes for candidates promising the most from the public treasury.” 
Politicians know the way to remain in office is to redistribute the nation’s wealth by taking from the “producers” and giving it to the “takers” to gain their support. In 1832, French philosopher Alex De Tocqueville said: “Democracy in the United States will last until those in power learn they can perpetuate themselves through taxation.” In 1958 Reagan said, “If I had to chose one word to describe the salient characteristics of the revolution of our times, the word would be collectivism - the tendency to center the power of all initiative in one central government. One central authority and its organs. And the weapon, the revolutionary agent that has brought this about has been the tax machine. Today’s entire system of taxation was spawned more than a hundred years ago by Karl Marx, who listed it as the prime essential of a socialistic state.” Edmund Morris, in his book “Dutch”, wrote that during Reagan’s speech he jotted down notes such as, average citizen abs. helpless - concentration of power - essence of totalitarianism - either we run gov’t or gov’t runs us - Burke: “all that’s nec. for evil is for good men to do nothing” - no gov’t in hist. has ever voluntarily reduced itself in size. 
Consider that over 50% of our incomes are taken in taxes. Yet tax and spend elected officials clamor for more, making taxpayers the source of “sugar” that sweetens their drive for power. 
Next November think carefully about giving politicians more of the nation’s wealth to squander. And look at what all candidates have done to see whether their actions support a socialist agenda. For if our elected representatives continue on their present course another “S” will be added to “USA”, as we become the United Socialist States of America (USSA)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two hundred twenty-eight years ago, on July 4th 1776, 56 men signed a Declaration of Independence, creating a democracy to be governed by representatives elected by its’ people. And so was born the United States of America (USA), not the first such government, but surely the greatest and strongest the world has ever seen. Nobel Peace Prize winner Professor Elie Wiesel, a Holocaust survivor, accurately defined the USA as “a county which, for two centuries, has stood as a living symbol of all that is charitable and decent to victims of injustice everywhere-a country in which every person is entitled to dream of happiness, peace, and liberty; where those who have are taught to give back.”<br />
The strength exhibited by Wiesel’s definition, administered by a representative government, is also the nation’s greatest weakness. I have lived through one-third of the nation’s history, encompassing The Great Depression, combat during World War II, and as a father with children during the defective 60s. And now I watch with fearful eyes as the United States’ population divests itself of moral values; is silent as it surrenders its’ liberties; permits our educational system to degrade; and supports socialistic invasion of our democracy.<br />
We passively relinquish more of our personal freedoms to every level of government, utterly unaware, by our own inattentive and apathetic behavior, that we are slowly, but surely permitting a caretaker nation to be established by representatives we elect to govern us. Once, before a 4th of July celebration, President Reagan worried about government intrusion into our daily lives. Reacting to ever increasing social programs, he said, “what was to be celebrated was Independence Day, not Dependence Day.” And British Professor Alexander Tytler wrote over 200 years ago, “when voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury, the majority always votes for candidates promising the most from the public treasury.”<br />
Politicians know the way to remain in office is to redistribute the nation’s wealth by taking from the “producers” and giving it to the “takers” to gain their support. In 1832, French philosopher Alex De Tocqueville said: “Democracy in the United States will last until those in power learn they can perpetuate themselves through taxation.” In 1958 Reagan said, “If I had to chose one word to describe the salient characteristics of the revolution of our times, the word would be collectivism &#8211; the tendency to center the power of all initiative in one central government. One central authority and its organs. And the weapon, the revolutionary agent that has brought this about has been the tax machine. Today’s entire system of taxation was spawned more than a hundred years ago by Karl Marx, who listed it as the prime essential of a socialistic state.” Edmund Morris, in his book “Dutch”, wrote that during Reagan’s speech he jotted down notes such as, average citizen abs. helpless &#8211; concentration of power &#8211; essence of totalitarianism &#8211; either we run gov’t or gov’t runs us &#8211; Burke: “all that’s nec. for evil is for good men to do nothing” &#8211; no gov’t in hist. has ever voluntarily reduced itself in size.<br />
Consider that over 50% of our incomes are taken in taxes. Yet tax and spend elected officials clamor for more, making taxpayers the source of “sugar” that sweetens their drive for power.<br />
Next November think carefully about giving politicians more of the nation’s wealth to squander. And look at what all candidates have done to see whether their actions support a socialist agenda. For if our elected representatives continue on their present course another “S” will be added to “USA”, as we become the United Socialist States of America (USSA)</p>
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		By: Rex The Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/09/ab-32-feeds-ca-aristocratic-socialists/#comment-14783</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex The Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SkippingDog says:

 February 9, 2012 at 4:38 pm

&lt;b&gt;One of the first things Governor Reagan did when he took office in 1967 was to raise California taxes to balance the budget. You’d never support a Ronald Reagan approach like that now, even if it was the old Gipper himself.&lt;/b&gt;

In 1967 GED educated gov employees were making less than the median state income, today they are earning in the top 1% nationwide. Big difference.

Gov GED education level jobs like cop and FF getting more comp than medical doctors. Prison guards getting more comp than Harvard University graduates. Big difference between 1967 and today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SkippingDog says:</p>
<p> February 9, 2012 at 4:38 pm</p>
<p><b>One of the first things Governor Reagan did when he took office in 1967 was to raise California taxes to balance the budget. You’d never support a Ronald Reagan approach like that now, even if it was the old Gipper himself.</b></p>
<p>In 1967 GED educated gov employees were making less than the median state income, today they are earning in the top 1% nationwide. Big difference.</p>
<p>Gov GED education level jobs like cop and FF getting more comp than medical doctors. Prison guards getting more comp than Harvard University graduates. Big difference between 1967 and today.</p>
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		By: David H		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/09/ab-32-feeds-ca-aristocratic-socialists/#comment-14782</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the review.  There are definitely forces at work to undermine our freedoms, centralize power and control, and undo our republic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the review.  There are definitely forces at work to undermine our freedoms, centralize power and control, and undo our republic.</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/09/ab-32-feeds-ca-aristocratic-socialists/#comment-14781</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the first things Governor Reagan did when he took office in 1967 was to raise California taxes to balance the budget.  You&#039;d never support a Ronald Reagan approach like that now, even if it was the old Gipper himself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the first things Governor Reagan did when he took office in 1967 was to raise California taxes to balance the budget.  You&#8217;d never support a Ronald Reagan approach like that now, even if it was the old Gipper himself.</p>
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		By: So. Perry		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/09/ab-32-feeds-ca-aristocratic-socialists/#comment-14780</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[So. Perry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is genuinely hilarious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is genuinely hilarious.</p>
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