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		By: Siman		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/28/ca-military-base-closure-threat/#comment-123468</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[The biggest thing you need to see is that money is going somewhere, and its not the defense budget. It hasn&#039;t been for a long time. We are at the lowest % of our GDP spent on the military since we went to war with terrorism... The problem is the assets the united states needs to protect that growing GDP is shrinking. If you also look at it in that retrospect this has been the cheapest impact of going to war that the united states has ever had. Anyway if we want to look at reality, the biggest cost is going to medicare and social security...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest thing you need to see is that money is going somewhere, and its not the defense budget. It hasn&#8217;t been for a long time. We are at the lowest % of our GDP spent on the military since we went to war with terrorism&#8230; The problem is the assets the united states needs to protect that growing GDP is shrinking. If you also look at it in that retrospect this has been the cheapest impact of going to war that the united states has ever had. Anyway if we want to look at reality, the biggest cost is going to medicare and social security&#8230;</p>
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		By: Close_Port_Hueneme		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/28/ca-military-base-closure-threat/#comment-122298</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2016 09:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Close this base. It brings in too many none locals that are jerks. Brings in many many people who are not from California and treat the local population like trash. I cannot tell you how many times I&#039;ve seen Navy guys calling the locals here beaners. Many of them don&#039;t even like California. They hid on the base and don&#039;t interact with the surround community.  Now that I have seen how they act, I&#039;m 100% for closing this base and shipping all these Military families out of here. The port should be left to the the private sector where jobs would increase dramatically. At 1st there would be down turn in the Job market from the DOD leaving, put in the long run the local area would be better off. This base is hindrance to the local economy which is really just a welfare handout form the Federal Government. Additionally it adds an 25 minute drive time for the locals to cross their own city. With the port going back into Civilian hands, Ventura and Oxnard would thrive. Deep Water harbor between LA and SF, it would create more competition and bring more jobs to the area. Every deep water harbor on the West Coast is a major city. Lets list them, San Diego, LA, SF, Portland, Seattle, and even in Canada we have Vancouver. Locals know, Oxnard needs a lot of jobs. So many people have to commute up The 101 for work. BOOOO ASSHOLE NAVY BOOOO Get the fuck out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Close this base. It brings in too many none locals that are jerks. Brings in many many people who are not from California and treat the local population like trash. I cannot tell you how many times I&#8217;ve seen Navy guys calling the locals here beaners. Many of them don&#8217;t even like California. They hid on the base and don&#8217;t interact with the surround community.  Now that I have seen how they act, I&#8217;m 100% for closing this base and shipping all these Military families out of here. The port should be left to the the private sector where jobs would increase dramatically. At 1st there would be down turn in the Job market from the DOD leaving, put in the long run the local area would be better off. This base is hindrance to the local economy which is really just a welfare handout form the Federal Government. Additionally it adds an 25 minute drive time for the locals to cross their own city. With the port going back into Civilian hands, Ventura and Oxnard would thrive. Deep Water harbor between LA and SF, it would create more competition and bring more jobs to the area. Every deep water harbor on the West Coast is a major city. Lets list them, San Diego, LA, SF, Portland, Seattle, and even in Canada we have Vancouver. Locals know, Oxnard needs a lot of jobs. So many people have to commute up The 101 for work. BOOOO ASSHOLE NAVY BOOOO Get the fuck out.</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/28/ca-military-base-closure-threat/#comment-103269</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always hear this idiocy from the left who want the money spent on their projects. Interesting that the military creates the peaceful environment in this country so that they can pursue their socialist agenda. As far as planes flying into port hueneme I would like say that the author of that statement has obviously never been on the base. It&#039;s a seabee base with a deep water port that is necessary should a war ever happen with China. But of course the socialists love China so maybe by closing the base would help their agenda. We&#039;ve been through this before when we disarmed after ww1 and guess what, we got ww2. Then after ww2 we disarmed again guess what? Korean War. Read on through history and you see the idiocy of not being prepared. Being weak in this world is incredibly stupid especially after the history just mentioned. Oh just to have full disclosure, I am a college professor AND an ex navy seabee, and NOT a socialist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always hear this idiocy from the left who want the money spent on their projects. Interesting that the military creates the peaceful environment in this country so that they can pursue their socialist agenda. As far as planes flying into port hueneme I would like say that the author of that statement has obviously never been on the base. It&#8217;s a seabee base with a deep water port that is necessary should a war ever happen with China. But of course the socialists love China so maybe by closing the base would help their agenda. We&#8217;ve been through this before when we disarmed after ww1 and guess what, we got ww2. Then after ww2 we disarmed again guess what? Korean War. Read on through history and you see the idiocy of not being prepared. Being weak in this world is incredibly stupid especially after the history just mentioned. Oh just to have full disclosure, I am a college professor AND an ex navy seabee, and NOT a socialist.</p>
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		By: Edward Rasen		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/28/ca-military-base-closure-threat/#comment-15354</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Rasen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 20:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Civilian employees at military bases are simply taxpayer-subsidized workers. I remember when Long Beach Naval Station was touted as essential to economy of Long Beach. In reality, Long Beach has thrived and grown without the U.S. Navy. But, Mugu and Hueneme are small fish compared to the U.S. military bases in England, Germany, Italy, Spain, South Korea, Okinawa, Japan and Afghanistan. Why do we still have USAF bases in England? Why do we still have heavy armour brigades in Germany. I guess the Russians are coming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Civilian employees at military bases are simply taxpayer-subsidized workers. I remember when Long Beach Naval Station was touted as essential to economy of Long Beach. In reality, Long Beach has thrived and grown without the U.S. Navy. But, Mugu and Hueneme are small fish compared to the U.S. military bases in England, Germany, Italy, Spain, South Korea, Okinawa, Japan and Afghanistan. Why do we still have USAF bases in England? Why do we still have heavy armour brigades in Germany. I guess the Russians are coming.</p>
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		By: Rider		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 02:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The cost to move operation from Port Hueneme, Point Mugu and the other areas mentioned, plus toxic and munitions cleanup will cost more than it would save and take 20 years to clean up. The economic impact on the local economy at the PRESENT TIME would create a snow ball effect leading to very large scale depression in the area. DOD would be better served to continue the operations there and close overseas bases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cost to move operation from Port Hueneme, Point Mugu and the other areas mentioned, plus toxic and munitions cleanup will cost more than it would save and take 20 years to clean up. The economic impact on the local economy at the PRESENT TIME would create a snow ball effect leading to very large scale depression in the area. DOD would be better served to continue the operations there and close overseas bases.</p>
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		By: CalWatchdog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CalWatchdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 08:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pete in SD: Actually, a new Cato study shows that defense spending is nearly as high as it was during Reagan&#039;s buildup at the height of the Cold War in the arly 1980s. You&#039;d have to expect that as we have troops in 130 countries now. 

Cato study: http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/the-pentagon-budget-myth-vs-reality/

-- John Seiler]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete in SD: Actually, a new Cato study shows that defense spending is nearly as high as it was during Reagan&#8217;s buildup at the height of the Cold War in the arly 1980s. You&#8217;d have to expect that as we have troops in 130 countries now. </p>
<p>Cato study: <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/the-pentagon-budget-myth-vs-reality/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/the-pentagon-budget-myth-vs-reality/</a></p>
<p>&#8212; John Seiler</p>
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		By: SELPilot		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/28/ca-military-base-closure-threat/#comment-15351</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 01:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Uh, John G.,  nobody flies into Hueneme. The Port of Hueneme is where the ships are. It&#039;s full of water. No airplanes. Get it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, John G.,  nobody flies into Hueneme. The Port of Hueneme is where the ships are. It&#8217;s full of water. No airplanes. Get it?</p>
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		By: Pete in SD		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/28/ca-military-base-closure-threat/#comment-15350</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Article assumes that &quot;free land and facilities&quot; will fall into the lap of any community suffering a closure.  This is a false assumption.  BRAC law was changed whereby all land and facilities that are found to be in excess must first be offered to other government agencies for use and if not taken are to be &quot;sold at market price by the Department of Defense&quot;.  No more giveaways.  In addition, it appears there are those in the region who are totally uninformed regarding the military&#039;s share of the national treasure.  The defense budget is presently at its lowest fraction of GDP in the history of the Nation, even lower than in the Great Depression.  Defense is merely a small fraction of the cost of the Federal Government&#039;s operations, while defense is (per the constitution) the the first and foremost responsibility of our government.  Go back to school people!  That is, if you can actually find one that teaches the Constitution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Article assumes that &#8220;free land and facilities&#8221; will fall into the lap of any community suffering a closure.  This is a false assumption.  BRAC law was changed whereby all land and facilities that are found to be in excess must first be offered to other government agencies for use and if not taken are to be &#8220;sold at market price by the Department of Defense&#8221;.  No more giveaways.  In addition, it appears there are those in the region who are totally uninformed regarding the military&#8217;s share of the national treasure.  The defense budget is presently at its lowest fraction of GDP in the history of the Nation, even lower than in the Great Depression.  Defense is merely a small fraction of the cost of the Federal Government&#8217;s operations, while defense is (per the constitution) the the first and foremost responsibility of our government.  Go back to school people!  That is, if you can actually find one that teaches the Constitution.</p>
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		By: Rex The Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/02/28/ca-military-base-closure-threat/#comment-15349</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our housing market is still so upside down that I have a strong feeling we may not come out of this depression until 2017-2020. That is a LONG way off, especially since we have been here for 4-5 years already.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our housing market is still so upside down that I have a strong feeling we may not come out of this depression until 2017-2020. That is a LONG way off, especially since we have been here for 4-5 years already.</p>
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		By: Rex The Wonder Dog!		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;If Ventura County can’t survive without leeching off the killing machine – tough crap. Grow up. Figure out another way to make your economy grow besides leeching off the taxpayer.&lt;/b&gt;

Amen Beels!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>If Ventura County can’t survive without leeching off the killing machine – tough crap. Grow up. Figure out another way to make your economy grow besides leeching off the taxpayer.</b></p>
<p>Amen Beels!</p>
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