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		By: Destiny		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/04/17/parental-rights-threatened-by-vaccination-bill/#comment-16944</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 03:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People must understand that it may interfere with religious beliefs and it shudnt be manetory anyway. If should be a parents choice]]></description>
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		By: David H		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t have to be a holy roller to comprehend the fact that homosexuals were largely responsible for the spread and propigation of AIDS and that abstemiousness would have prevented it&#039;s spread and been the most reliable cure.  Are you against educating children on the facts, along with full disclosure of what is contained in vaccines and their effects before they are injected into your children.

Patient Zero Gaëtan Dugas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%C3%ABtan_Dugas]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to be a holy roller to comprehend the fact that homosexuals were largely responsible for the spread and propigation of AIDS and that abstemiousness would have prevented it&#8217;s spread and been the most reliable cure.  Are you against educating children on the facts, along with full disclosure of what is contained in vaccines and their effects before they are injected into your children.</p>
<p>Patient Zero Gaëtan Dugas</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%C3%ABtan_Dugas" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%C3%ABtan_Dugas</a></p>
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		By: Beelzebub		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/04/17/parental-rights-threatened-by-vaccination-bill/#comment-16942</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;You must remember that the people making these laws also want to teach your children to be homosexuals, and deny the fact that exercising your right to keep injections out of your rectum is the cure for AIDS&quot;

So now innoculation from lethal and life-altering disease is connected with homosexuality??? :D God almighty.

Are you a Holy Roller by chance, David H???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You must remember that the people making these laws also want to teach your children to be homosexuals, and deny the fact that exercising your right to keep injections out of your rectum is the cure for AIDS&#8221;</p>
<p>So now innoculation from lethal and life-altering disease is connected with homosexuality??? 😀 God almighty.</p>
<p>Are you a Holy Roller by chance, David H???</p>
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		By: Beelzebub		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/04/17/parental-rights-threatened-by-vaccination-bill/#comment-16941</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beelzebub]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I will not argue some of the merits although I could of vaccines, the increase of autism in our children,the amount of vaccines on newborns whose neurological systems are being bombarded by a Health System that is being used by greedy pharma to peddle it’s ware’s to a unsuspecting public&quot;

More ignorance.

The purported connection between vaccines and childhood autism has been totally debunked and put to bed. Go ask any pediatrician or medical specialist involved in child care. To stoop to this argument you must be incredibly desperate.

The &quot;greedy&quot; pharma companies are actually exiting the vaccine manufacturing business because there is NO PROFIT in it. If you don&#039;t believe me, research it. When the swine flu broke out - the vaccine was delayed because only a couple generic manufacturers are still involved in vaccine production - and it took a while to get the their production lines rollling. 

Are pharma companies &#039;greedy&#039;? Sure they are. But not w/ vaccine production. 

Stop your misinformation. You might fool some but you don&#039;t fool me. ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I will not argue some of the merits although I could of vaccines, the increase of autism in our children,the amount of vaccines on newborns whose neurological systems are being bombarded by a Health System that is being used by greedy pharma to peddle it’s ware’s to a unsuspecting public&#8221;</p>
<p>More ignorance.</p>
<p>The purported connection between vaccines and childhood autism has been totally debunked and put to bed. Go ask any pediatrician or medical specialist involved in child care. To stoop to this argument you must be incredibly desperate.</p>
<p>The &#8220;greedy&#8221; pharma companies are actually exiting the vaccine manufacturing business because there is NO PROFIT in it. If you don&#8217;t believe me, research it. When the swine flu broke out &#8211; the vaccine was delayed because only a couple generic manufacturers are still involved in vaccine production &#8211; and it took a while to get the their production lines rollling. </p>
<p>Are pharma companies &#8216;greedy&#8217;? Sure they are. But not w/ vaccine production. </p>
<p>Stop your misinformation. You might fool some but you don&#8217;t fool me. 😉</p>
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		By: David H		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/04/17/parental-rights-threatened-by-vaccination-bill/#comment-16940</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You must remember that the people making these laws also want to teach your children to be homosexuals, and deny the fact that exercising your right to keep injections out of your rectum is the cure for AIDS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must remember that the people making these laws also want to teach your children to be homosexuals, and deny the fact that exercising your right to keep injections out of your rectum is the cure for AIDS.</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/04/17/parental-rights-threatened-by-vaccination-bill/#comment-16939</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 05:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now and then you pleasantly surprise me, Beelzebub.  Well done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now and then you pleasantly surprise me, Beelzebub.  Well done.</p>
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		By: gerald		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/04/17/parental-rights-threatened-by-vaccination-bill/#comment-16938</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 04:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will not argue some of the merits although I could of vaccines, the increase of autism in our children,the amount of vaccines on newborns whose neurological systems are being bombarded by a Health System that is being used by greedy pharma to peddle it&#039;s ware&#039;s to a unsuspecting public.Fine if you want a vaccine for every disease known to mankind and cant wait for the latest and greatest to be available go ahead give it to your children ,but dont force me to believe what you do just as you dont believe what I do. I am not willing to become a profit margin just as private wars and prisons are today and in this case  in my opinion on the back of innocent children who look to their parents to decide their fate ,not the government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will not argue some of the merits although I could of vaccines, the increase of autism in our children,the amount of vaccines on newborns whose neurological systems are being bombarded by a Health System that is being used by greedy pharma to peddle it&#8217;s ware&#8217;s to a unsuspecting public.Fine if you want a vaccine for every disease known to mankind and cant wait for the latest and greatest to be available go ahead give it to your children ,but dont force me to believe what you do just as you dont believe what I do. I am not willing to become a profit margin just as private wars and prisons are today and in this case  in my opinion on the back of innocent children who look to their parents to decide their fate ,not the government.</p>
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		By: Beelzebub		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/04/17/parental-rights-threatened-by-vaccination-bill/#comment-16937</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 01:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jwmdc,

The first half of your rant does nothing to prove your point or to disprove mine. Pretty much a waste of space and finger power. Keep in mind that Jenner was an 18th century scientist. Not all scientists who make who make phenomenal discoveries or find cure to devastating disease are medical doctors. In fact, most probably aren&#039;t. Jenner was a brilliant man and didn&#039;t have .00001% of the medical technology available to scientists today. And he still was the father of the small pox vaccination. You should get down on your hands and knees in respect for this man. 

Alzheimers is a widely reported disease today because of an aging population and the large raw numbers of victims. But the per-capita infliction rate is no more than it was before the use of the influenza vaccine. There is no scientific correlation between the flu vaccine and Alzheimers. None. And you have no proof to show different. Gary Null&#039;s opinion is not acceptable as proof either. 

I am no friend of pharmaceutical companies. They bribe pols just like the banksters do to gain special favors and to screw the consumer. But I am thankful for their manufacturing arm which has worked in conjunction with scientists to produce medications that have helped to prolong our lives and provide a higher quality of life for all. 

Gratitude is a virtue and a blessing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jwmdc,</p>
<p>The first half of your rant does nothing to prove your point or to disprove mine. Pretty much a waste of space and finger power. Keep in mind that Jenner was an 18th century scientist. Not all scientists who make who make phenomenal discoveries or find cure to devastating disease are medical doctors. In fact, most probably aren&#8217;t. Jenner was a brilliant man and didn&#8217;t have .00001% of the medical technology available to scientists today. And he still was the father of the small pox vaccination. You should get down on your hands and knees in respect for this man. </p>
<p>Alzheimers is a widely reported disease today because of an aging population and the large raw numbers of victims. But the per-capita infliction rate is no more than it was before the use of the influenza vaccine. There is no scientific correlation between the flu vaccine and Alzheimers. None. And you have no proof to show different. Gary Null&#8217;s opinion is not acceptable as proof either. </p>
<p>I am no friend of pharmaceutical companies. They bribe pols just like the banksters do to gain special favors and to screw the consumer. But I am thankful for their manufacturing arm which has worked in conjunction with scientists to produce medications that have helped to prolong our lives and provide a higher quality of life for all. </p>
<p>Gratitude is a virtue and a blessing.</p>
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		By: Jwmdc		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/04/17/parental-rights-threatened-by-vaccination-bill/#comment-16936</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jwmdc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[B- Funny thing, I did go to the library and read some medical history, and the education scared me. Herd immunity and sanitation seems to play a bigger role in the reduction of deaths from infectious disease in the 18th and early 19th century.  It turns out Edward Jenner, Father of Vaccination (small pox) was not even a medical doctor (Hadwen,MD. Jan 1923). Seems he bought his medical degree from Saint Andrews College in Scotland which he never attended. At the Jenner Museum in Gloucestershire, England, they have no record of his diploma. The FACT that jenner tested his theory on one patient (small pox and cow pox being of the same disease)and then immediately claimed that he had &quot;immunized&quot; the patient (8 year old james Phipps) by drawing serum from a cowpox pustule on a milkmaid (9 year old Sarah Nelmes)and injected it into his &quot;victim&quot; was as SCIENTIFIC as it gets. Wow. Fortunately for him (and the Pharmaceutical companies of today) Herd Immunity was responsible for the decrease in Small Pox. Cowpox is a disease which occurs on the utter of a cow, and only when they are in milk, only in the female animal and a non infectious ugly chancre. Small pox on the other hand is not limited to the female sex, nor to one portion of the body, presents different physical signs, and is tremendously infectious, and the course and symptoms are totally different. there is NO analogy between the two.
I will spare you the account of how the small pox vaccine  was first made... but in case you think did not learn enough medical history, let me know and i will spell it out for you.  
After that little history lesson, i wonder how that was accepted as YOU and others before you with Medical degrees as acceptable... and i&#039;m the ignorant one. Wow. 
This one sounds much like the Barber / Dentist wars of old, and using the Mercury Amalgam, which is still in use today, even though Mercury has been PROVEN to be the most toxic, non-radioactive metal known to man. 
In regards to the Alzheimers, I never said that it was a new disease brought on by the Flu Vaccine, I said that you have a greater propensity (10x) towards it if you have had 5 or more consecutive flu shots (Hugh Fudenberg MD).
Unfortunately, the US with our Modern Pharmacology that you boast about so much, while i agree there are some positives, has gotten us to where we are today, #37 of the Industrialized nations, with each year getting worse (we were #22 in 1997). 
So im sorry if my uneducated self looks at the world around me, sees Autistic children daily, listens to the parents who say the lights went out after a vaccine, and Choose Not to Vaccinate my kids. And by the way, if your children are Vaccinated, what do they have to worry about... Drugs are good, right?
By the Way.. Have a great day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B- Funny thing, I did go to the library and read some medical history, and the education scared me. Herd immunity and sanitation seems to play a bigger role in the reduction of deaths from infectious disease in the 18th and early 19th century.  It turns out Edward Jenner, Father of Vaccination (small pox) was not even a medical doctor (Hadwen,MD. Jan 1923). Seems he bought his medical degree from Saint Andrews College in Scotland which he never attended. At the Jenner Museum in Gloucestershire, England, they have no record of his diploma. The FACT that jenner tested his theory on one patient (small pox and cow pox being of the same disease)and then immediately claimed that he had &#8220;immunized&#8221; the patient (8 year old james Phipps) by drawing serum from a cowpox pustule on a milkmaid (9 year old Sarah Nelmes)and injected it into his &#8220;victim&#8221; was as SCIENTIFIC as it gets. Wow. Fortunately for him (and the Pharmaceutical companies of today) Herd Immunity was responsible for the decrease in Small Pox. Cowpox is a disease which occurs on the utter of a cow, and only when they are in milk, only in the female animal and a non infectious ugly chancre. Small pox on the other hand is not limited to the female sex, nor to one portion of the body, presents different physical signs, and is tremendously infectious, and the course and symptoms are totally different. there is NO analogy between the two.<br />
I will spare you the account of how the small pox vaccine  was first made&#8230; but in case you think did not learn enough medical history, let me know and i will spell it out for you.<br />
After that little history lesson, i wonder how that was accepted as YOU and others before you with Medical degrees as acceptable&#8230; and i&#8217;m the ignorant one. Wow.<br />
This one sounds much like the Barber / Dentist wars of old, and using the Mercury Amalgam, which is still in use today, even though Mercury has been PROVEN to be the most toxic, non-radioactive metal known to man.<br />
In regards to the Alzheimers, I never said that it was a new disease brought on by the Flu Vaccine, I said that you have a greater propensity (10x) towards it if you have had 5 or more consecutive flu shots (Hugh Fudenberg MD).<br />
Unfortunately, the US with our Modern Pharmacology that you boast about so much, while i agree there are some positives, has gotten us to where we are today, #37 of the Industrialized nations, with each year getting worse (we were #22 in 1997).<br />
So im sorry if my uneducated self looks at the world around me, sees Autistic children daily, listens to the parents who say the lights went out after a vaccine, and Choose Not to Vaccinate my kids. And by the way, if your children are Vaccinated, what do they have to worry about&#8230; Drugs are good, right?<br />
By the Way.. Have a great day.</p>
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		By: Beelzebub		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/04/17/parental-rights-threatened-by-vaccination-bill/#comment-16935</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[jwmdc, if you folks had your way blood letting and trepanning would still be popular remedy practices in modern day medicine. I am just amazed at the ignorance that still runs rampant in America in 2012. And the sad thing is that some bait swallowers still buy into it.

Virulent and horrendously destructive disease(s) like TB, diptheria, scarlet fever, whooping cause, influenza, measles, smallpox, , etc.... wiped out at least 3 empires and several indian nations. In 18th century England we know that 1/3rd of deaths resulted from one or more of these infectious disease(s). The only thing that slowed down or virtually eliminated these infectious killers were VACCINES!!! That is not speculation or a wild hypothesis. That is HISTORICAL FACT and any expert (scientist or medical doctor) would confirm the value and life-saving properties of immunilogical vaccines and serums.  

I feel like I&#039;m arguing whether the world is flat with you people. I am just astonished at your ignorance.

BTW, Alzheimers is not a new disease. It was around LONG BEFORE the flu vaccine was available. Back then it was not called Alzheimers. It was considered to be a form of dementia. So what you say doesn&#039;t make a lick of sense. Par for the course.

Of course there are side effects to medicines. There are side effect to a snicker&#039;s bar or to a banana too. But note the following: THE BENEFITS OF MODERN MEDICINE AND MODERN PHARMACOLOGY FAR FAR OUTWEIGH THE UNWANTED SIDE EFFECTS OR NEGATIVES. 

Go to the libary and read some medical history, jwmdc. Educate yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jwmdc, if you folks had your way blood letting and trepanning would still be popular remedy practices in modern day medicine. I am just amazed at the ignorance that still runs rampant in America in 2012. And the sad thing is that some bait swallowers still buy into it.</p>
<p>Virulent and horrendously destructive disease(s) like TB, diptheria, scarlet fever, whooping cause, influenza, measles, smallpox, , etc&#8230;. wiped out at least 3 empires and several indian nations. In 18th century England we know that 1/3rd of deaths resulted from one or more of these infectious disease(s). The only thing that slowed down or virtually eliminated these infectious killers were VACCINES!!! That is not speculation or a wild hypothesis. That is HISTORICAL FACT and any expert (scientist or medical doctor) would confirm the value and life-saving properties of immunilogical vaccines and serums.  </p>
<p>I feel like I&#8217;m arguing whether the world is flat with you people. I am just astonished at your ignorance.</p>
<p>BTW, Alzheimers is not a new disease. It was around LONG BEFORE the flu vaccine was available. Back then it was not called Alzheimers. It was considered to be a form of dementia. So what you say doesn&#8217;t make a lick of sense. Par for the course.</p>
<p>Of course there are side effects to medicines. There are side effect to a snicker&#8217;s bar or to a banana too. But note the following: THE BENEFITS OF MODERN MEDICINE AND MODERN PHARMACOLOGY FAR FAR OUTWEIGH THE UNWANTED SIDE EFFECTS OR NEGATIVES. </p>
<p>Go to the libary and read some medical history, jwmdc. Educate yourself.</p>
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