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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-45881</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 21:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21818&quot;&gt;TheBeachBum&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, the charter amendment that you refer to sets only the salaries for police and fire and it was upheld in a regular scheduled election in 2005. And it uses all cities in the state between 100,000 and 250,000 population, then the City throws out the highest and the bargaining unit throws out the lowest until 10 are left. So it&#039;s really an average of the median like sized cities. And since it&#039;s the average....some are lower paid than San Bernardino and some are Higher. The employees don&#039;t always get raises, sometimes they get pay cuts. The firefighters average you listed is with overtimes since most firefighters are working between 96 and 120 hours per week because the City cut costs by not filling positions. Now they complain about the workers that are still there making too much to pick up the work load that keeps increasing? The union didn&#039;t &quot;rig&quot; the charter, an informed public voted it in so politicians couldn&#039;t reward unions for backing them with better contracts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21818">TheBeachBum</a>.</p>
<p>Well, the charter amendment that you refer to sets only the salaries for police and fire and it was upheld in a regular scheduled election in 2005. And it uses all cities in the state between 100,000 and 250,000 population, then the City throws out the highest and the bargaining unit throws out the lowest until 10 are left. So it&#8217;s really an average of the median like sized cities. And since it&#8217;s the average&#8230;.some are lower paid than San Bernardino and some are Higher. The employees don&#8217;t always get raises, sometimes they get pay cuts. The firefighters average you listed is with overtimes since most firefighters are working between 96 and 120 hours per week because the City cut costs by not filling positions. Now they complain about the workers that are still there making too much to pick up the work load that keeps increasing? The union didn&#8217;t &#8220;rig&#8221; the charter, an informed public voted it in so politicians couldn&#8217;t reward unions for backing them with better contracts.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-45880</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 21:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21800&quot;&gt;Rex The Wonder Dog!&lt;/a&gt;.

First, the true number based on the City&#039;s own figures is that public safety comprises only 69% of the entire personnel expenditures compared to an industry average of 80%. Second, most police and firefighters are college grads and non make $250,000 per year. Only the City manager makes that kind of money in San Bernardino. Third, to get above the money that they are making (mostly the fire department since that&#039;s who the City keeps pointing at) most are working an average of between 96 and 120 hours per week, every week of the year. A gas meter reader gets paid more per hour, they just work 3 to 4 times the hours.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21800">Rex The Wonder Dog!</a>.</p>
<p>First, the true number based on the City&#8217;s own figures is that public safety comprises only 69% of the entire personnel expenditures compared to an industry average of 80%. Second, most police and firefighters are college grads and non make $250,000 per year. Only the City manager makes that kind of money in San Bernardino. Third, to get above the money that they are making (mostly the fire department since that&#8217;s who the City keeps pointing at) most are working an average of between 96 and 120 hours per week, every week of the year. A gas meter reader gets paid more per hour, they just work 3 to 4 times the hours.</p>
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		By: TheBeachBum		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21818</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheBeachBum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The primary factor driving San Bernardino into bankruptcy is a 1995 city charter amendment engineered by the police and firefighter unions that requires their pay be based on average police and fire pay in 10 comparably sized California cities. But all 10 – including Thousand Oaks, Irvine and Huntington Beach – are much wealthier than San Bernardino, which is one of the poorest cities in the nation.

The predictable result: Public safety costs now eat up three-quarters of San Bernardino’s budget. Average annual police pay is $95,000. Firefighters average more than $130,000. And last year, the city’s highest-paid employee was a police sergeant who made $317,179.

Given the city’s union-rigged charter, the only surprise about San Bernardino’s bankruptcy is that it didn’t happen sooner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary factor driving San Bernardino into bankruptcy is a 1995 city charter amendment engineered by the police and firefighter unions that requires their pay be based on average police and fire pay in 10 comparably sized California cities. But all 10 – including Thousand Oaks, Irvine and Huntington Beach – are much wealthier than San Bernardino, which is one of the poorest cities in the nation.</p>
<p>The predictable result: Public safety costs now eat up three-quarters of San Bernardino’s budget. Average annual police pay is $95,000. Firefighters average more than $130,000. And last year, the city’s highest-paid employee was a police sergeant who made $317,179.</p>
<p>Given the city’s union-rigged charter, the only surprise about San Bernardino’s bankruptcy is that it didn’t happen sooner.</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, Associate Prof.		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21817</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Associate Prof.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[0 fro 9 baaaaaaby !


Do your own work slave troll !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>0 fro 9 baaaaaaby !</p>
<p>Do your own work slave troll !</p>
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		By: Rex The Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex The Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 04:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Teddy-I predicted what about CalTURDS in 2013?? Link please Mr Troll :)

Oh, I almost forgot....................1%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% BABY! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy-I predicted what about CalTURDS in 2013?? Link please Mr Troll 🙂</p>
<p>Oh, I almost forgot&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..1%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% BABY! 🙂</p>
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		By: Hondo		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21815</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hondo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 17:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The whole notion that the city council of San Berdoo didn&#039;t know where the money went is like Hitler saying he didn&#039;t know where the Jews went.
The city manager ( the one who is alleged to have lied to the city council) is an employee of the city council.  It is the job of the city council to supervise their employees.  If the city tries to arrest or sue the alleged city manager I&#039;m sure he has covered his ass and that everything he has done was with the full approval of the said city council. 
The people who are being lied to are the VOTERS AND THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF SAN BERDOO.
Hondo.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole notion that the city council of San Berdoo didn&#8217;t know where the money went is like Hitler saying he didn&#8217;t know where the Jews went.<br />
The city manager ( the one who is alleged to have lied to the city council) is an employee of the city council.  It is the job of the city council to supervise their employees.  If the city tries to arrest or sue the alleged city manager I&#8217;m sure he has covered his ass and that everything he has done was with the full approval of the said city council.<br />
The people who are being lied to are the VOTERS AND THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF SAN BERDOO.<br />
Hondo&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, Associate Prof.		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Associate Prof.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poodle---  You have already predicted the bk/demise of calpers as 2013------

lol-------- you&#039;ll be 0 for 10 then !

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaby!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poodle&#8212;  You have already predicted the bk/demise of calpers as 2013&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>lol&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; you&#8217;ll be 0 for 10 then !</p>
<p>Baaaaaaaaaaaaaby!</p>
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		By: Rex The Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21813</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex The Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 06:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sb Compton, CalTURDS next baby....... 1%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sb Compton, CalTURDS next baby&#8230;&#8230;. 1%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%</p>
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		By: Salaries, mistakes slammed (City of) San Bernardino into bankruptcy &#171; California Sucks		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21812</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Salaries, mistakes slammed (City of) San Bernardino into bankruptcy &#171; California Sucks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 23:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Ted Steele, Associate Prof.		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/20/salaries-mistakes-threw-san-bernardino-into-bankruptcy/#comment-21811</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Associate Prof.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[poor Poodle--- only 29,982 more muni bk&#039;s before his pension envy is sated. 






lol (tm)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poor Poodle&#8212; only 29,982 more muni bk&#8217;s before his pension envy is sated. </p>
<p>lol &#8482;</p>
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