Comments on: Calif. regs killing lumber manufacturers

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Sun, 26 May 2019 23:55:52 +0000

[…] regs killing lumber manufacturers (31 Jul, 2012) https://calwatchdog.com/2012/07/31/calif-regs-killing-lumber-manufacturers/ “California’s private forest lands are some of the most productive in the world. But state […]

By: joe

joe — Sat, 10 Jan 2015 08:02:10 +0000

Anyone who has studied the decline of the timber industry academically understands that large corporations becoming more mechanized and outsourcing their labor to East Asia and Mexico has caused the great decline in timber jobs. If these tycoons hand’t been so greedy, millions of californians could enjoy the worlds greatest forests, massive salmon runs, and timber jobs but they had to cut nearly all the worlds most impressive trees in about 150 years. environmentalists, extractive workers, hunters, fishermen, everybody is not too different in their overall goals: to have a working environment that benefits them and to keep it around for future generations

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 06:45:14 +0000

Though this thread is very old, I couldn’t help but to comment. What a total load of crap you people are spewing. We had a cabin in Calaveras County in the central Sierra since 1967 and I have never seen such massive clear cutting in the region since we bought the place. Just take a look at the Google earth images and all you see is a patchwork quilt of logged trees. There is no true contiguous forest left, just a block of trees alternating with blocks of totally stripped earth. If this is called restrictive logging, than I would hate to see what you would like done.

Chris

By: jimmydeeoc

jimmydeeoc — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:54:49 +0000

All great comments. All so unfortunately true.

And that three-legged economy you described, Dave…… I wonder if the “people who run the state” realize that while their policies are warmly embraced by eco-aware residents of The Peninsula and West LA, the rest of the state is going nowhere fast. See latest Victor Davis Hanson (probably no stranger to readers of this blog) for another very sad but oh-so-true chronicle of The Central Valley circa 2012.

http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/california-the-road-warrior-is-here/

By: NDaily

NDaily — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:43:34 +0000

‘software, entertainment and government’–don’t forget lawyers.

By: CalWatchdog

CalWatchdog — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:26:56 +0000

Great comments Hondo –

I did a research project in the early 1990’s on alternatives to woods for paper. In addition to hemp, which is a viable, lower-cost alternative, there is a plant called Kenaf, which is a high yield, rapid growth alternative. Kenaf reaches 12-18 feet in 150 days, while a southern pine for example, grows 14 to 17 years before it can be harvested.

Timber management on federal lands has become almost a bad joke. And now they’ve figured out a way to get the private land owners to pay for it. Environmentalists have destroyed most of California’s manufacturing whereas conservationists believe that people and nature can live together responsibly.

Katy

By: Hondo

Hondo — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:10:24 +0000

As a former forest service employee, I worked in both timber management and as a firefighter. California has the largest trees on the planet earth. The redwoods, which run from Santa Cruz to Oregon is the largest biomass on the plant earth. I worked timber in the rocky mountain region and coming back to Cali, I was astounded at the size and quantity of the trees here. But they have almost shut down the timber industry in Eureka, where my family lives. Whatever trees that are cut are sent to china for processing. A couple thoughts on what would help the industry in Cali and in the country.
One. Grow hemp to make paper goods in this country. You can grow 4 times as much per acre as the Loblolly pines the the southeast. The THC is so low you would have to smoke a pound of it to get kinda high. The process of extracting the fiber from the cellulose in hemp is simply adding water compared to the high temp acid baths of tree. The paper from hemp lasts up to 20 times as long as from trees (see the dead sea scrolls and other ancient codex’s). Hemp is naturally more resistant to bugs. And you have the entire midwest to grow it. It is an annual compared to 30 years to grow the trees. The first crop could be in a couple years from now. In WW2 we had ‘Hemp for victory’. Lets do that again and grow trees for lumber rather than for newspapers and tampons.
Two. Don’t grow anymore xmas trees. Let them get big and harvest them as timber. As a former firefighter the fire hazard of a dead tree in your house is off the scale. Get some fake plastic trees that last for decades. There is no mention of xmas trees in the bible.
3. As Katy has said above, reduce regulations that make it impossible to grow, harvest and process here in America and in Kalifornia.
4. In the Rocky Mt. region the pine bark beetle is causing terrible fire conditions. The best cure is massive thinning. You actually create MORE board feet per acre by thinning and making the forest healthy. The enviornazi’s throw lawsuits at every plan to thin unhealthy stands making it cost innefective to try to thin. The hippies would rather the forest burn down than cut down one tree, and have said so.
Hondo…….

By: Dave Boz

Dave Boz — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:22:46 +0000

You see this as a problem, but the state of California views it as a goal: getting rid of any and all extractive and manufacturing industries. This has been California’s focus for several decades, and the folks who govern the state see this loss of industry as one more success. California – at least the people who run it – wants only three industries inside its borders: software, entertainment and government.

By: CalWatchdog

CalWatchdog — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:37:39 +0000

Remember this destruction of an entire industry, and its tax base, whenever Gov. Brown starts jabbering about the need to raise taxes.

— John Seiler