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	Comments on: Carbon credit value of 393,000 Long Beach trees sinks to zero	</title>
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		By: Tom Tanton		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/27/carbon-credit-value-of-393000-long-beach-trees-sinks-to-zero/#comment-23576</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Tanton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The VALUE is and always has been zero.  The PRICE on the other hand...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The VALUE is and always has been zero.  The PRICE on the other hand&#8230;</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/27/carbon-credit-value-of-393000-long-beach-trees-sinks-to-zero/#comment-23575</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Teddy, youre not fooling anyone sleepy troll ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy, youre not fooling anyone sleepy troll 😉</p>
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		By: Edward Steele, Chief Investigator		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/27/carbon-credit-value-of-393000-long-beach-trees-sinks-to-zero/#comment-23574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Steele, Chief Investigator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will look forward to your comments out there-- packing and shipping.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will look forward to your comments out there&#8211; packing and shipping.</p>
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		By: Edward Steele, Chief Investigator		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/27/carbon-credit-value-of-393000-long-beach-trees-sinks-to-zero/#comment-23573</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Steele, Chief Investigator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes--- he does not like me or poodle very much--- but the poodle has pushed him to the edge-- I feel sorry for any blog where the poodle &quot;does his business&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes&#8212; he does not like me or poodle very much&#8212; but the poodle has pushed him to the edge&#8211; I feel sorry for any blog where the poodle &#8220;does his business&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/27/carbon-credit-value-of-393000-long-beach-trees-sinks-to-zero/#comment-23572</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I put my all into CWD....spanking Poodle and Donkey has taken a toll on me-

I&#039;ll look it over...this Ed guy sounds emotional to me.....not my style dealing with choatic leadership!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put my all into CWD&#8230;.spanking Poodle and Donkey has taken a toll on me-</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll look it over&#8230;this Ed guy sounds emotional to me&#8230;..not my style dealing with choatic leadership!</p>
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		By: Edward Steele, Chief Investigator		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/27/carbon-credit-value-of-393000-long-beach-trees-sinks-to-zero/#comment-23571</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Steele, Chief Investigator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[U haul--- why don&#039;t I see you over at Cal Pensions???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U haul&#8212; why don&#8217;t I see you over at Cal Pensions???</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/27/carbon-credit-value-of-393000-long-beach-trees-sinks-to-zero/#comment-23570</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poodle has nothing of substance to say!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poodle has nothing of substance to say!</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, Janitor		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/27/carbon-credit-value-of-393000-long-beach-trees-sinks-to-zero/#comment-23569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Janitor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poor Poodle--- I guess you have to admit your hero/god Raguns promoted cap n trade!  LOL    Sorry!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Poodle&#8212; I guess you have to admit your hero/god Raguns promoted cap n trade!  LOL    Sorry!</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/27/carbon-credit-value-of-393000-long-beach-trees-sinks-to-zero/#comment-23568</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, Teddy is doing a book long cut and paste job again....sorry sleepy troll but I don&#039;t have all year to read your cut and paste comments.... :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Teddy is doing a book long cut and paste job again&#8230;.sorry sleepy troll but I don&#8217;t have all year to read your cut and paste comments&#8230;. 🙁</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, Janitor		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/27/carbon-credit-value-of-393000-long-beach-trees-sinks-to-zero/#comment-23567</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Janitor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 03:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poor Poodle---- read and learn about RR and cap and trade little troll---

Opposition to “cap-and-trade” legislation to reduce global warming pollution is a common refrain among many Republican and a few Democratic officials this fall. The program is derided as a “cap and tax” that would drain voters’ wallets while bankrupting the nation. But ironically enough, the three most recent Republican presidents promoted cap and trade, including Ronald Reagan. They employed such a system to phase out lead in gasoline, cut chlorofluorocarbons and other ozone-depleting chemicals, and reduce sulfur pollution from power plants responsible for acid rain—all without undue cost. Officials who are criticizing it now are doing so for political purposes, and they could likely make it harder to employ cost-effective, market-based policies in the future to significantly lower pollution at an affordable cost.
For instance, the “Pledge to America: the 2010 Republican Agenda” promises to “oppose attempts to impose a national ‘cap and trade’ energy tax.” After the demise of comprehensive global warming legislation in the Senate, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) gloated that “cap-and-trade, which is also known as the national energy tax, is dead in the United States Senate.”
Yet many Republican officials greatly admire the father of cap and trade: President Ronald Reagan. Former Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) praised Reagan last year:
When you realize the magnitude of President Reagan’s achievements, there is absolutely no reason why anyone would ignore his ‘demonstrably good’ example.
Nonetheless, she opposes a global warming plan that would employ the innovative cap-and-trade system first created by President Reagan. Like Palin, many of today’s public officials are repudiating Reagan’s legacy of cap and trade for cheap political gain and to curry favor with the polluting industries that are supporting attacks on those who voted for a cap-and-trade market mechanism to reduce global warming pollution.
A little history is in order. Cap and trade was developed as a more flexible, market-based system to reduce environmental pollution compared to the so-called “command and control” model employed by environmental laws in the 1970s. The old system required each polluting facility to make a fixed reduction in air or water contamination, which ignored that some facilities could cut pollution more cheaply than others.
Cap and trade is a cost-effective alternative that allows the firms that can more cheaply reduce their emissions below their required limit to sell any additional reductions to companies that are not able to make reductions as easily. This creates a system that guarantees a set level of overall reductions while rewarding the most efficient companies and ensuring that the cap can be met at the lowest possible cost to the economy.
The Reagan White House conceived the first cap-and-trade program to reduce pollution. It was used in the 1980s to phase out lead in gasoline at a lower cost. An EPA analysis shows:
…estimated savings from the lead trading program of approximately 20 percent over alternative programs that did not provide for lead banking, a cost savings of about $250 million per year.
President Reagan also signed the Montreal Protocol in 1987 to slash the production and use of chemicals that deplete the upper ozone layer essential to screen out cancer-causing ultraviolet rays. His administration established a cap-and-trade system to implement the chemical reductions the protocol required. A 2006 scientific assessment concluded that “the Montreal Protocol is working” to reduce chemicals and protect the ozone layer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Poodle&#8212;- read and learn about RR and cap and trade little troll&#8212;</p>
<p>Opposition to “cap-and-trade” legislation to reduce global warming pollution is a common refrain among many Republican and a few Democratic officials this fall. The program is derided as a “cap and tax” that would drain voters’ wallets while bankrupting the nation. But ironically enough, the three most recent Republican presidents promoted cap and trade, including Ronald Reagan. They employed such a system to phase out lead in gasoline, cut chlorofluorocarbons and other ozone-depleting chemicals, and reduce sulfur pollution from power plants responsible for acid rain—all without undue cost. Officials who are criticizing it now are doing so for political purposes, and they could likely make it harder to employ cost-effective, market-based policies in the future to significantly lower pollution at an affordable cost.<br />
For instance, the “Pledge to America: the 2010 Republican Agenda” promises to “oppose attempts to impose a national ‘cap and trade’ energy tax.” After the demise of comprehensive global warming legislation in the Senate, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) gloated that “cap-and-trade, which is also known as the national energy tax, is dead in the United States Senate.”<br />
Yet many Republican officials greatly admire the father of cap and trade: President Ronald Reagan. Former Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) praised Reagan last year:<br />
When you realize the magnitude of President Reagan’s achievements, there is absolutely no reason why anyone would ignore his ‘demonstrably good’ example.<br />
Nonetheless, she opposes a global warming plan that would employ the innovative cap-and-trade system first created by President Reagan. Like Palin, many of today’s public officials are repudiating Reagan’s legacy of cap and trade for cheap political gain and to curry favor with the polluting industries that are supporting attacks on those who voted for a cap-and-trade market mechanism to reduce global warming pollution.<br />
A little history is in order. Cap and trade was developed as a more flexible, market-based system to reduce environmental pollution compared to the so-called “command and control” model employed by environmental laws in the 1970s. The old system required each polluting facility to make a fixed reduction in air or water contamination, which ignored that some facilities could cut pollution more cheaply than others.<br />
Cap and trade is a cost-effective alternative that allows the firms that can more cheaply reduce their emissions below their required limit to sell any additional reductions to companies that are not able to make reductions as easily. This creates a system that guarantees a set level of overall reductions while rewarding the most efficient companies and ensuring that the cap can be met at the lowest possible cost to the economy.<br />
The Reagan White House conceived the first cap-and-trade program to reduce pollution. It was used in the 1980s to phase out lead in gasoline at a lower cost. An EPA analysis shows:<br />
…estimated savings from the lead trading program of approximately 20 percent over alternative programs that did not provide for lead banking, a cost savings of about $250 million per year.<br />
President Reagan also signed the Montreal Protocol in 1987 to slash the production and use of chemicals that deplete the upper ozone layer essential to screen out cancer-causing ultraviolet rays. His administration established a cap-and-trade system to implement the chemical reductions the protocol required. A 2006 scientific assessment concluded that “the Montreal Protocol is working” to reduce chemicals and protect the ozone layer.</p>
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