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		By: Richard Rider		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/29/legislature-doubles-public-safety-death-benefit/#comment-23741</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Rider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gotta love Rex telling us we &quot;avoided a major depression&quot; by some Democrat magic. That&#039;s like saying that the Democrats saved us from an asteroid strike -- and we know this because no asteroid struck. 

But Rex can&#039;t explain away how we compare with the OTHER states.  That&#039;s a comparison he wants to avoid at all costs.  

CA has the 3rd highest state unemployment rate.  (July, 2012) – 10.7%.  National unemployment rate 8.3%.   National unemployment rate not including CA is only 8.0%, making the CA unemployment rate 34.2% higher than the average of the other 49 states.    
http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

And if you compare Democrat vs. GOP states, guess which states have made a much better recovery?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love Rex telling us we &#8220;avoided a major depression&#8221; by some Democrat magic. That&#8217;s like saying that the Democrats saved us from an asteroid strike &#8212; and we know this because no asteroid struck. </p>
<p>But Rex can&#8217;t explain away how we compare with the OTHER states.  That&#8217;s a comparison he wants to avoid at all costs.  </p>
<p>CA has the 3rd highest state unemployment rate.  (July, 2012) – 10.7%.  National unemployment rate 8.3%.   National unemployment rate not including CA is only 8.0%, making the CA unemployment rate 34.2% higher than the average of the other 49 states.<br />
<a href="http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm</a></p>
<p>And if you compare Democrat vs. GOP states, guess which states have made a much better recovery?</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/29/legislature-doubles-public-safety-death-benefit/#comment-23740</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 06:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;While it may be hard for you to hear, at least we are not shedding jobs the way we were at the start of the Bush Depresion and now have had 29 months of private sector job growth and avoioded a major depression.– Ted&lt;/b&gt;

Job Growth...hahahahahaha....we&#039;re in a depression fool ;) Have been since 007.  Why do oyu htink al lthese munis are going BK??????????????

Wake up sleepy troll.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>While it may be hard for you to hear, at least we are not shedding jobs the way we were at the start of the Bush Depresion and now have had 29 months of private sector job growth and avoioded a major depression.– Ted</b></p>
<p>Job Growth&#8230;hahahahahaha&#8230;.we&#8217;re in a depression fool 😉 Have been since 007.  Why do oyu htink al lthese munis are going BK??????????????</p>
<p>Wake up sleepy troll.</p>
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		By: eatingdogfood		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/29/legislature-doubles-public-safety-death-benefit/#comment-23739</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eatingdogfood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You really didn&#039;t think that Gov. Moonbeam and his Double Dealing
Democratic Cohorts would Stab their Union Bosses in the Back, Did Ya ???
Only one way out of this !!! Declare Martial Law and Nationalize the
National Guard and Arrest All the Democrats and Union Bosses on RICO
Conspiracy Charges !!!

Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/the_state_worker/2012/08/read-the-california-public-pension-reform-bill-california-state-and-local-jerry-brown.html#storylink=cpy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really didn&#8217;t think that Gov. Moonbeam and his Double Dealing<br />
Democratic Cohorts would Stab their Union Bosses in the Back, Did Ya ???<br />
Only one way out of this !!! Declare Martial Law and Nationalize the<br />
National Guard and Arrest All the Democrats and Union Bosses on RICO<br />
Conspiracy Charges !!!</p>
<p>Read more here: <a href="http://blogs.sacbee.com/the_state_worker/2012/08/read-the-california-public-pension-reform-bill-california-state-and-local-jerry-brown.html#storylink=cpy" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blogs.sacbee.com/the_state_worker/2012/08/read-the-california-public-pension-reform-bill-california-state-and-local-jerry-brown.html#storylink=cpy</a></p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/29/legislature-doubles-public-safety-death-benefit/#comment-23738</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Teddy Trouhgie, your post is too long, cliff notes buddy ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Teddy Trouhgie, your post is too long, cliff notes buddy 😉</p>
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		By: Al Moncrief		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/29/legislature-doubles-public-safety-death-benefit/#comment-23737</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Moncrief]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WHY ARE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS NOT SUPPORTING THE BREACH OF THEIR RETIRED MEMBER&#039;S PENSION CONTRACTS LIKE PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS IN COLORADO?  (THE GREATEST ACT OF TREACHERY IN THE HISTORY OF THE U.S. UNION MOVEMENT.)

PROOF THAT COLORADO’S GOVERNMENT LIES: COLORADO PERA’S ATTEMPT TO TAKE CONTRACTED RETIREE BENEFITS.

When I was young I held the belief that public service in the United States is honorable, that the United States of America was exceptional in the world, that governments in the United States, while flawed, deserved the respect of citizens. 

Now that I am old, I see that I was naive . . . that governmental entities in the United States will intentionally deceive to achieve their goals, and that over two centuries our soldiers have died for a country that will countenance, and even celebrate, base behavior on the part of its public sector instrumentalities.  It saddens me, but if this state of affairs persists in the United States . . . Honor is dead.

Some background . . . 

You may know that an entity of Colorado state government, Colorado PERA, is attempting to breach its public pension contracts with its retirees.  Colorado PERA is attempting a retroactive taking, a “clawback” of accrued, fully-vested pension benefits that were earned by retired PERA members over decades.

Colorado PERA public pension benefits include a “base benefit” that is set at retirement and a “COLA benefit” that adjusts pensions annually to compensate for inflation.  The “base benefit” and the “COLA benefit” are set forth in Colorado statutes with identical force of law and legal status.

In its attempt to breach retiree contracts Colorado PERA has created a contrivance.  The contrivance that Colorado PERA is using is that somehow the “base benefit” is a contractual obligation, but the “COLA benefit” is not a contractual obligation, in spite of the fact that both pension benefits are set forth in law in an identical manner.  What this boils down to is attempted, unabashed, theft by government.

Whether or not Colorado PERA’s attempt to take fully-vested public pension benefits from PERA retirees is ultimately successful in the courts, one fact has been incontrovertibly established . . . Colorado PERA, as an instrumentality of the State of Colorado, is an organization that will lie to achieve its policy goals. 

This is a sad fact for the many employees of Colorado PERA, for the trustees that have served on the Colorado PERA Board of Trustees over 80 years, and for the thousands of PERA members and retirees. 
And now, the proof of the deceit . . .

Colorado PERA has told us, in writing, that the PERA COLA benefit IS a contractual obligation of PERA . . . and then, after initiating their attempt to breach contracts, Colorado PERA has told us, in writing, that the PERA COLA benefit IS NOT a contractual obligation of PERA.  Both of these statements cannot be true.

Colorado PERA in a written document, to the Colorado General Assembly’s Joint Budget Committee on December 16, 2009 states that the PERA COLA benefit IS a contractual obligation of PERA:

“The General Assembly cannot decrease the COLA (absent actuarial necessity) because it is part of the contractual obligations that accrue under a pension plan protected under the Colorado Constitution Article II, Section 11 and the United States Constitution Article 1, Section 10 for vested contractual rights.” 

Link:

http://www.kentlambert.com/Files/PERA_JBC_Hearing_Responses-12-16-2009_Final.pdf

Colorado PERA on page 23 of its May 6, 2011 “Reply Brief” in the pension case Justus v. State states that the PERA COLA benefit IS NOT a contractual obligation of PERA:

“Plaintiffs seek to create a contract right that has never existed—an unchangeable COLA for life triggered (inconsistently) by either the date of their retirement or ‘full vesting.’”

Link:

http://saveperacola.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/2011-05-06-pera-defendants_-reply-in-support-of-summary-judgment.pdf

That is simply unbelievable.

In one document PERA writes &quot;the contract right has never existed.&quot;  In the other they write that the COLA benefit is a contractual obligation protected under the Colorado and US constitutions. 

When PERA writes that they need &quot;actuarial necessity&quot; to take the COLA benefit, they are not denying that it is a contractual obligation, in fact, it is an admission of the contractual nature of the COLA benefit. 

For further information regarding Colorado PERA’s attempt to take fully-vested pension benefits from retirees visit saveperacola.com or Friend Save Pera Cola on Facebook.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHY ARE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS NOT SUPPORTING THE BREACH OF THEIR RETIRED MEMBER&#8217;S PENSION CONTRACTS LIKE PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS IN COLORADO?  (THE GREATEST ACT OF TREACHERY IN THE HISTORY OF THE U.S. UNION MOVEMENT.)</p>
<p>PROOF THAT COLORADO’S GOVERNMENT LIES: COLORADO PERA’S ATTEMPT TO TAKE CONTRACTED RETIREE BENEFITS.</p>
<p>When I was young I held the belief that public service in the United States is honorable, that the United States of America was exceptional in the world, that governments in the United States, while flawed, deserved the respect of citizens. </p>
<p>Now that I am old, I see that I was naive . . . that governmental entities in the United States will intentionally deceive to achieve their goals, and that over two centuries our soldiers have died for a country that will countenance, and even celebrate, base behavior on the part of its public sector instrumentalities.  It saddens me, but if this state of affairs persists in the United States . . . Honor is dead.</p>
<p>Some background . . . </p>
<p>You may know that an entity of Colorado state government, Colorado PERA, is attempting to breach its public pension contracts with its retirees.  Colorado PERA is attempting a retroactive taking, a “clawback” of accrued, fully-vested pension benefits that were earned by retired PERA members over decades.</p>
<p>Colorado PERA public pension benefits include a “base benefit” that is set at retirement and a “COLA benefit” that adjusts pensions annually to compensate for inflation.  The “base benefit” and the “COLA benefit” are set forth in Colorado statutes with identical force of law and legal status.</p>
<p>In its attempt to breach retiree contracts Colorado PERA has created a contrivance.  The contrivance that Colorado PERA is using is that somehow the “base benefit” is a contractual obligation, but the “COLA benefit” is not a contractual obligation, in spite of the fact that both pension benefits are set forth in law in an identical manner.  What this boils down to is attempted, unabashed, theft by government.</p>
<p>Whether or not Colorado PERA’s attempt to take fully-vested public pension benefits from PERA retirees is ultimately successful in the courts, one fact has been incontrovertibly established . . . Colorado PERA, as an instrumentality of the State of Colorado, is an organization that will lie to achieve its policy goals. </p>
<p>This is a sad fact for the many employees of Colorado PERA, for the trustees that have served on the Colorado PERA Board of Trustees over 80 years, and for the thousands of PERA members and retirees.<br />
And now, the proof of the deceit . . .</p>
<p>Colorado PERA has told us, in writing, that the PERA COLA benefit IS a contractual obligation of PERA . . . and then, after initiating their attempt to breach contracts, Colorado PERA has told us, in writing, that the PERA COLA benefit IS NOT a contractual obligation of PERA.  Both of these statements cannot be true.</p>
<p>Colorado PERA in a written document, to the Colorado General Assembly’s Joint Budget Committee on December 16, 2009 states that the PERA COLA benefit IS a contractual obligation of PERA:</p>
<p>“The General Assembly cannot decrease the COLA (absent actuarial necessity) because it is part of the contractual obligations that accrue under a pension plan protected under the Colorado Constitution Article II, Section 11 and the United States Constitution Article 1, Section 10 for vested contractual rights.” </p>
<p>Link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kentlambert.com/Files/PERA_JBC_Hearing_Responses-12-16-2009_Final.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.kentlambert.com/Files/PERA_JBC_Hearing_Responses-12-16-2009_Final.pdf</a></p>
<p>Colorado PERA on page 23 of its May 6, 2011 “Reply Brief” in the pension case Justus v. State states that the PERA COLA benefit IS NOT a contractual obligation of PERA:</p>
<p>“Plaintiffs seek to create a contract right that has never existed—an unchangeable COLA for life triggered (inconsistently) by either the date of their retirement or ‘full vesting.’”</p>
<p>Link:</p>
<p><a href="http://saveperacola.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/2011-05-06-pera-defendants_-reply-in-support-of-summary-judgment.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://saveperacola.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/2011-05-06-pera-defendants_-reply-in-support-of-summary-judgment.pdf</a></p>
<p>That is simply unbelievable.</p>
<p>In one document PERA writes &#8220;the contract right has never existed.&#8221;  In the other they write that the COLA benefit is a contractual obligation protected under the Colorado and US constitutions. </p>
<p>When PERA writes that they need &#8220;actuarial necessity&#8221; to take the COLA benefit, they are not denying that it is a contractual obligation, in fact, it is an admission of the contractual nature of the COLA benefit. </p>
<p>For further information regarding Colorado PERA’s attempt to take fully-vested pension benefits from retirees visit saveperacola.com or Friend Save Pera Cola on Facebook.</p>
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		By: Edward Steele, Chief Investigator		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Steele, Chief Investigator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Pvt Sector Worker Who did not save enough for retirement.-

Sad to hear that you didn&#039;t start young while working perhaps paying off your house before your old age like so many of us did. I guess you thought you&#039;d hit it big out there in the pvt sector and would be ok. I am sorry about the second you also took on that home and the new cars you always had, must&#039;ve been expensive. I bet you thought this day would never come. I am glad though that you have long supported regulations that if prosecuted fully will prevent another greed fueled bubble burst by the fat cats that drove you to ruin. I am also glad to see that you wisely supported our leaders who over time have attempted to construct a safety net to help folks who have fallen on hard times, well, like yourself. I am glad that at least you had the foresight to save the max each year in your 401k, since most of that has bounced back since thwe 08 losses I bet you feel a bit better. While it may be hard for you to hear, at least we are not shedding jobs the way we were at the start of the Bush Depresion and now have had 29 months of private sector job growth and avoioded a major depression.-- Ted]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Pvt Sector Worker Who did not save enough for retirement.-</p>
<p>Sad to hear that you didn&#8217;t start young while working perhaps paying off your house before your old age like so many of us did. I guess you thought you&#8217;d hit it big out there in the pvt sector and would be ok. I am sorry about the second you also took on that home and the new cars you always had, must&#8217;ve been expensive. I bet you thought this day would never come. I am glad though that you have long supported regulations that if prosecuted fully will prevent another greed fueled bubble burst by the fat cats that drove you to ruin. I am also glad to see that you wisely supported our leaders who over time have attempted to construct a safety net to help folks who have fallen on hard times, well, like yourself. I am glad that at least you had the foresight to save the max each year in your 401k, since most of that has bounced back since thwe 08 losses I bet you feel a bit better. While it may be hard for you to hear, at least we are not shedding jobs the way we were at the start of the Bush Depresion and now have had 29 months of private sector job growth and avoioded a major depression.&#8211; Ted</p>
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		By: Sean Morham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean Morham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perez like many in Sacramento is of the &quot;ferme generale&quot; class.
Liberte. Egalite. Fraternite.

May he and his ilk meet fate as the originals.
Peace, Love, No Mercy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perez like many in Sacramento is of the &#8220;ferme generale&#8221; class.<br />
Liberte. Egalite. Fraternite.</p>
<p>May he and his ilk meet fate as the originals.<br />
Peace, Love, No Mercy.</p>
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		By: eatingdogfood		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/29/legislature-doubles-public-safety-death-benefit/#comment-23734</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eatingdogfood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Public Sector Employee or Retire : I would like to meet up with you for some Companionship and maybe even some Romance! I need a little Support at this time in my life cause I worked in the Private Sector for a Major Corporation for 45 Years and my Pension is frankly, Pathetic. I guess I&#039;m Lucky to even have a Pension as Pathetic as it is. And the Private Sector Pension that I have, has NO COLA Provisions. So the longer that I am retired, the Pension Check remains the Same. I don&#039;t have any Medical either, Except paying through the nose for Medicare. I know that you Guys and Girls in the Public Sector don&#039;t have those Problems. I helped you Guys and Girls out for 45 Years by again Paying through the Nose in Taxes which supported you Guys and Girls in the Public Sector so that you would be Comfortable. Even though I&#039;m in my 70&#039;s, I can still get it up, so don&#039;t worry about that. And if need be; there are always Chemicals to take care of that kind of Problem. Hoping to hear from you soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Public Sector Employee or Retire : I would like to meet up with you for some Companionship and maybe even some Romance! I need a little Support at this time in my life cause I worked in the Private Sector for a Major Corporation for 45 Years and my Pension is frankly, Pathetic. I guess I&#8217;m Lucky to even have a Pension as Pathetic as it is. And the Private Sector Pension that I have, has NO COLA Provisions. So the longer that I am retired, the Pension Check remains the Same. I don&#8217;t have any Medical either, Except paying through the nose for Medicare. I know that you Guys and Girls in the Public Sector don&#8217;t have those Problems. I helped you Guys and Girls out for 45 Years by again Paying through the Nose in Taxes which supported you Guys and Girls in the Public Sector so that you would be Comfortable. Even though I&#8217;m in my 70&#8217;s, I can still get it up, so don&#8217;t worry about that. And if need be; there are always Chemicals to take care of that kind of Problem. Hoping to hear from you soon.</p>
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		By: Edward Steele, Chief Investigator		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/08/29/legislature-doubles-public-safety-death-benefit/#comment-23733</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Steele, Chief Investigator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris Christie is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE--- Teddy is svelt, toned, and buffed!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Christie is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE&#8212; Teddy is svelt, toned, and buffed!</p>
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		By: NTHEOC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NTHEOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog! says:
Is that Teddy in the pic with the donut??
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No, its Chris Christie!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex the Wonder Dog! says:<br />
Is that Teddy in the pic with the donut??<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
No, its Chris Christie!!!</p>
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