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		By: Sac citizen		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/bicycle-nuts-driving-local-traffic-issues/#comment-24720</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sac citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Car nuts want to deny others use of streets

This opinion piece is wrong in so many ways, it&#039;s hard to keep track.

First of all, Freeport Blvd is not downtown.  It&#039;s in a residential/commercial neighborhood.  The particular segment in question has a community college, a high school, a park, a light rail station, a senior residence, a bike shop, other businesses and homes along it.

Changing Freeport to make it safer for all users is supported by the college, the high school, businesses and residents.

Streets don&#039;t exist exclusively for motorists.  They are for everybody, including those too young and too old to drive.  And including those who choose not to drive for environmental, health or economic reasons.

Those who don&#039;t drive want to go to the same places as those that do.

What is correct in this tirade is the statement that bicycling on Freeport is not safe.  However, saying that is never will be safe is an opinion without a solid basis.  The street can, and should be, safe for everyone who wants to use it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Car nuts want to deny others use of streets</p>
<p>This opinion piece is wrong in so many ways, it&#8217;s hard to keep track.</p>
<p>First of all, Freeport Blvd is not downtown.  It&#8217;s in a residential/commercial neighborhood.  The particular segment in question has a community college, a high school, a park, a light rail station, a senior residence, a bike shop, other businesses and homes along it.</p>
<p>Changing Freeport to make it safer for all users is supported by the college, the high school, businesses and residents.</p>
<p>Streets don&#8217;t exist exclusively for motorists.  They are for everybody, including those too young and too old to drive.  And including those who choose not to drive for environmental, health or economic reasons.</p>
<p>Those who don&#8217;t drive want to go to the same places as those that do.</p>
<p>What is correct in this tirade is the statement that bicycling on Freeport is not safe.  However, saying that is never will be safe is an opinion without a solid basis.  The street can, and should be, safe for everyone who wants to use it.</p>
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		By: Doug Thompson		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/bicycle-nuts-driving-local-traffic-issues/#comment-24719</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The relative safety of adjoining or parallel streets is no argument for Freeport Boulevard to remain dangerous.  The businesses and schools along Freeport should be accessible by all modes, not just motor vehicles.  Sorry if Ms. Grimes would be slightly inconvenienced by not being able to cruise up Freeport as fast as she wants to.  For those who choose another way to get there - and there are plenty of us - reduced speeds coupled with bicycle and pedestrian facilities are a matter of life and death, not inconvenience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The relative safety of adjoining or parallel streets is no argument for Freeport Boulevard to remain dangerous.  The businesses and schools along Freeport should be accessible by all modes, not just motor vehicles.  Sorry if Ms. Grimes would be slightly inconvenienced by not being able to cruise up Freeport as fast as she wants to.  For those who choose another way to get there &#8211; and there are plenty of us &#8211; reduced speeds coupled with bicycle and pedestrian facilities are a matter of life and death, not inconvenience.</p>
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		By: BikeCommuter		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/bicycle-nuts-driving-local-traffic-issues/#comment-24718</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BikeCommuter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a conservative libertarian and I will never vote for Obama, Brown or any other liberal/socialist.  However I am a bike commuter because that is what I do and I don&#039;t like any infrastructure wonks forcing bicyclists off of the road by building and designing streets that are unsafe for both bicyclists and pedestrians. I don&#039;t believe in government subsidies for any fuel or energy source - be it oil, solar, or whatever.  I believe in free markets. My bicycle is cheap (but it used) and runs on my energy. We need roads for motor vehicles as our lives depend on it.  Anyone who disagrees wants us to return to a caveman existence.  But libertarians like me, who are not understood by liberals who can&#039;t think outside of the box, believe in personal liberty and the freedom to choose a personal mode of transportation.  I choose bicycling. 

That is a long way of saying I support the efforts to reconfigure streets to add bicycle lanes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a conservative libertarian and I will never vote for Obama, Brown or any other liberal/socialist.  However I am a bike commuter because that is what I do and I don&#8217;t like any infrastructure wonks forcing bicyclists off of the road by building and designing streets that are unsafe for both bicyclists and pedestrians. I don&#8217;t believe in government subsidies for any fuel or energy source &#8211; be it oil, solar, or whatever.  I believe in free markets. My bicycle is cheap (but it used) and runs on my energy. We need roads for motor vehicles as our lives depend on it.  Anyone who disagrees wants us to return to a caveman existence.  But libertarians like me, who are not understood by liberals who can&#8217;t think outside of the box, believe in personal liberty and the freedom to choose a personal mode of transportation.  I choose bicycling. </p>
<p>That is a long way of saying I support the efforts to reconfigure streets to add bicycle lanes.</p>
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		By: Mikey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/bicycle-nuts-driving-local-traffic-issues/#comment-24717</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 02:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@novaks47....let&#039;s meet for coffee.  I have an idea that would make me feel safer.

Your friend,
Just another bicyclist 
(but trying to deal with it)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@novaks47&#8230;.let&#8217;s meet for coffee.  I have an idea that would make me feel safer.</p>
<p>Your friend,<br />
Just another bicyclist<br />
(but trying to deal with it)</p>
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		By: F. Prieto		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/bicycle-nuts-driving-local-traffic-issues/#comment-24716</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F. Prieto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 02:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a motorist, a bicyclist, and a pedestrian and happen to live in this neighborhood and use Freeport regularly. I also sent 2 children to McClatchy High School on this stretch of Freeport and one to City College, and in spite of the fact that all of us use our bicycles fairly regularly - as well as our cars - never felt safe having them bike to work. I happen to be a physician so also see the consequences of this: an epidemic of obese and soon to be Diabetic kids &#038; adults who will bankrupt us all. Contrary to the nonsensical assertion that this process is an example of government that &quot;regularly ignore(s) the will of the citizens&quot;, this was something driven by citizens wanting a safer street for their neighborhood.  The traffic engineers have estimated that at peak hours, this may increase auto transit time down this stretch of Freeport by as much as ~ 45 seconds. Ms. Grimes, if that is really a major factor in your life, you really need to slow down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a motorist, a bicyclist, and a pedestrian and happen to live in this neighborhood and use Freeport regularly. I also sent 2 children to McClatchy High School on this stretch of Freeport and one to City College, and in spite of the fact that all of us use our bicycles fairly regularly &#8211; as well as our cars &#8211; never felt safe having them bike to work. I happen to be a physician so also see the consequences of this: an epidemic of obese and soon to be Diabetic kids &amp; adults who will bankrupt us all. Contrary to the nonsensical assertion that this process is an example of government that &#8220;regularly ignore(s) the will of the citizens&#8221;, this was something driven by citizens wanting a safer street for their neighborhood.  The traffic engineers have estimated that at peak hours, this may increase auto transit time down this stretch of Freeport by as much as ~ 45 seconds. Ms. Grimes, if that is really a major factor in your life, you really need to slow down.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/bicycle-nuts-driving-local-traffic-issues/#comment-24715</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@novaks47. If you don&#039;t like driving your car on Freeport where you have to worry about children walking or biking to school, try another roadway. There are *two* freeways about a mile to each side of Freeport where bicycle riders aren&#039;t allowed. Use those!

Seriously, though, this is not about *bicyclists* trying to get their way. It&#039;s about everyone else who might like to ride a bicycle -- that&#039;s a good thing, right? -- but chooses not to because it&#039;s unsafe. They deserve the opportunity to transport themselves in a way that supports their own health, their community&#039;s economy, and the nation&#039;s independence from global oil companies and their dictator/terrorist friends.

Now, sometimes, even those reasons aren&#039;t enough to make a big change to a roadway, but in this case, the proposed change will have almost no impact on motorists&#039; convenience. Practically none. So how can you possibly oppose it? I know you don&#039;t mean to hate, but it comes across that way, as if you hate people in the neighborhood who are seeking a minor change for safety and health. Please reconsider your position and support this neighborhood safety improvement, or at least don&#039;t complain about it since it basically won&#039;t affect you. Please. Thanks in advance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@novaks47. If you don&#8217;t like driving your car on Freeport where you have to worry about children walking or biking to school, try another roadway. There are *two* freeways about a mile to each side of Freeport where bicycle riders aren&#8217;t allowed. Use those!</p>
<p>Seriously, though, this is not about *bicyclists* trying to get their way. It&#8217;s about everyone else who might like to ride a bicycle &#8212; that&#8217;s a good thing, right? &#8212; but chooses not to because it&#8217;s unsafe. They deserve the opportunity to transport themselves in a way that supports their own health, their community&#8217;s economy, and the nation&#8217;s independence from global oil companies and their dictator/terrorist friends.</p>
<p>Now, sometimes, even those reasons aren&#8217;t enough to make a big change to a roadway, but in this case, the proposed change will have almost no impact on motorists&#8217; convenience. Practically none. So how can you possibly oppose it? I know you don&#8217;t mean to hate, but it comes across that way, as if you hate people in the neighborhood who are seeking a minor change for safety and health. Please reconsider your position and support this neighborhood safety improvement, or at least don&#8217;t complain about it since it basically won&#8217;t affect you. Please. Thanks in advance.</p>
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		By: Susan		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/bicycle-nuts-driving-local-traffic-issues/#comment-24714</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, this is odd.  Twenty years ago, or even ten, would you have ever thought that an innocent activity like bicycle-riding, of all things, would one day produce activist blocs of unpleasant and narcissistic adults who bully their fellow citizens to get what they want?  How did this happen?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is odd.  Twenty years ago, or even ten, would you have ever thought that an innocent activity like bicycle-riding, of all things, would one day produce activist blocs of unpleasant and narcissistic adults who bully their fellow citizens to get what they want?  How did this happen?</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/bicycle-nuts-driving-local-traffic-issues/#comment-24713</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You want Europe....you are getting it....limitations....less choices....no growth.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want Europe&#8230;.you are getting it&#8230;.limitations&#8230;.less choices&#8230;.no growth&#8230;..</p>
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		By: novaks47		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/bicycle-nuts-driving-local-traffic-issues/#comment-24712</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[novaks47]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only bicycle riders would complain about a situation that they CHOSE to be in. They CHOOSE to ride on streets that are less than ideal for riding, then complain, and demand changes be made. That&#039;d be like me complaining that the twisty roads I commute on are &quot;unsafe&quot; due to the curves, so the roads should be straightened out, or a separate straight road added parallel to the mountain road. 

Here&#039;s an idea : if you are not comfortable riding in a certain area, don&#039;t ride there. Why should we waste money adapting areas to YOUR liking, after the fact? I used to pedal, and never once did I complain about cars being on the road, or getting too close, or any other nonsense. Sure, there&#039;s some really bad drivers out there that are a danger to you, I get that. But those same fools are a threat to everyone. If you pedal, deal with it. It&#039;s part of riding. Just like when I ride my motorcycle, I expect to have people pull blindly in front of me, cut me off, and try to change lanes while directly next to me, just to name a few. All part of riding. &quot;Where&#039;s my special motorcycle lane on the freeway....WAHHHHHHHH!&quot; Seriously, suck it up or stick to where you feel safest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only bicycle riders would complain about a situation that they CHOSE to be in. They CHOOSE to ride on streets that are less than ideal for riding, then complain, and demand changes be made. That&#8217;d be like me complaining that the twisty roads I commute on are &#8220;unsafe&#8221; due to the curves, so the roads should be straightened out, or a separate straight road added parallel to the mountain road. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an idea : if you are not comfortable riding in a certain area, don&#8217;t ride there. Why should we waste money adapting areas to YOUR liking, after the fact? I used to pedal, and never once did I complain about cars being on the road, or getting too close, or any other nonsense. Sure, there&#8217;s some really bad drivers out there that are a danger to you, I get that. But those same fools are a threat to everyone. If you pedal, deal with it. It&#8217;s part of riding. Just like when I ride my motorcycle, I expect to have people pull blindly in front of me, cut me off, and try to change lanes while directly next to me, just to name a few. All part of riding. &#8220;Where&#8217;s my special motorcycle lane on the freeway&#8230;.WAHHHHHHHH!&#8221; Seriously, suck it up or stick to where you feel safest.</p>
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		By: Plumas		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/bicycle-nuts-driving-local-traffic-issues/#comment-24711</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Plumas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 20:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve picked a poor example to support your point of view here. Freeport Blvd. dissolves into 19th and 21st streets at the north end of this project, and both of those streets work quite well with bike lanes similar to what is proposed. As someone who often bikes and drives through this area, I can testify that the restriping is called for. It will help and it will take the terror out of biking through these blocks.
In fact, I can&#039;t think of a single project in Sacramento where the &quot;Bicycle Nuts&quot; haven&#039;t made things better for everyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve picked a poor example to support your point of view here. Freeport Blvd. dissolves into 19th and 21st streets at the north end of this project, and both of those streets work quite well with bike lanes similar to what is proposed. As someone who often bikes and drives through this area, I can testify that the restriping is called for. It will help and it will take the terror out of biking through these blocks.<br />
In fact, I can&#8217;t think of a single project in Sacramento where the &#8220;Bicycle Nuts&#8221; haven&#8217;t made things better for everyone.</p>
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