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		By: Ron Kilmartin		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/down-the-rabbit-hole-on-cap-and-trade/#comment-24745</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Kilmartin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 04:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The year 1000? The medieval warming was a 400 year period! The year 1000 was in the rise near the beginning of  the 400+/- -year that crested between 1200 and 1300-1400 before declining to the little ice age minimum aroun;d 1600-1650.  The Hansen article cited above refers only to the &quot;1950s to the 1980s&quot;. 

It would be surprising if Hansen paid much attention to the Medieval Warming since it contradicts his fairy-tale Anthropogenic CO2 warming theory. Ii is doubtful he seriously investigated the Medieval Warming, even though it was well documented by Lamb some 40 years ago.  Lamb&#039;s work has been extensively verified by researchers around the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The year 1000? The medieval warming was a 400 year period! The year 1000 was in the rise near the beginning of  the 400+/- -year that crested between 1200 and 1300-1400 before declining to the little ice age minimum aroun;d 1600-1650.  The Hansen article cited above refers only to the &#8220;1950s to the 1980s&#8221;. </p>
<p>It would be surprising if Hansen paid much attention to the Medieval Warming since it contradicts his fairy-tale Anthropogenic CO2 warming theory. Ii is doubtful he seriously investigated the Medieval Warming, even though it was well documented by Lamb some 40 years ago.  Lamb&#8217;s work has been extensively verified by researchers around the world.</p>
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		By: Edward Steele, Chief Investigator		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/down-the-rabbit-hole-on-cap-and-trade/#comment-24744</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Steele, Chief Investigator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ronster--- You arte incorrect-- Hansen et al do include the year 1000 warming----]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronster&#8212; You arte incorrect&#8211; Hansen et al do include the year 1000 warming&#8212;-</p>
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		By: Ron Kilmartin		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/down-the-rabbit-hole-on-cap-and-trade/#comment-24743</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Kilmartin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hansen a scientist? Charlatan is a better word. 1950s?  How come he did not include the 1930s, when the highest US temperatures were recorded. Or the Medieval Warming of 900-1300, wherein proxy data and agricultural records indicate greater warming than today, and there was no significant man-made CO2.  Like all the anti-CO2 activist-&quot;scientists&quot;, he picks and massages the data he wants to cite- and of course the media loves and publishes any activist yelping that promotes the big gov lie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hansen a scientist? Charlatan is a better word. 1950s?  How come he did not include the 1930s, when the highest US temperatures were recorded. Or the Medieval Warming of 900-1300, wherein proxy data and agricultural records indicate greater warming than today, and there was no significant man-made CO2.  Like all the anti-CO2 activist-&#8220;scientists&#8221;, he picks and massages the data he wants to cite- and of course the media loves and publishes any activist yelping that promotes the big gov lie.</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, Associate Prof.		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/down-the-rabbit-hole-on-cap-and-trade/#comment-24742</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Associate Prof.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry Ron-- wrong.

WASHINGTON - The relentless, weather-gone-crazy type of heat that has blistered the United States and other parts of the world in recent years is so rare that it can&#039;t be anything but man-made global warming, says a new statistical analysis from a top government scientist.

The research by a man often called the &quot;godfather of global warming&quot; says that the likelihood of such temperatures occurring from the 1950s through the 1980s was rarer than 1 in 300. Now, the odds are closer to 1 in 10, according to the study by NASA scientist James Hansen. He says that statistically what&#039;s happening is not random or normal, but pure and simple climate change.

&quot;This is not some scientific theory. We are now experiencing scientific fact,&quot; Hansen told The Associated Press in an interview.

Hansen is a scientist at NASA&#039;s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York and a professor at Columbia University. But he is also a strident activist who has called for government action to curb greenhouse gases for years. While his study was published online Saturday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, it is unlikely to sway opinion among the remaining climate change skeptics.

However, several climate scientists praised the new work.

In a blunt departure from most climate research, Hansen&#039;s study — based on statistics, not the more typical climate modeling — blames these three heat waves purely on global warming:

Last year&#039;s devastating Texas-Oklahoma drought.

The 2010 heat waves in Russia and the Middle East, which led to thousands of deaths.

The 2003 European heat wave blamed for tens of thousands of deaths, especially among the elderly in France.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Ron&#8211; wrong.</p>
<p>WASHINGTON &#8211; The relentless, weather-gone-crazy type of heat that has blistered the United States and other parts of the world in recent years is so rare that it can&#8217;t be anything but man-made global warming, says a new statistical analysis from a top government scientist.</p>
<p>The research by a man often called the &#8220;godfather of global warming&#8221; says that the likelihood of such temperatures occurring from the 1950s through the 1980s was rarer than 1 in 300. Now, the odds are closer to 1 in 10, according to the study by NASA scientist James Hansen. He says that statistically what&#8217;s happening is not random or normal, but pure and simple climate change.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is not some scientific theory. We are now experiencing scientific fact,&#8221; Hansen told The Associated Press in an interview.</p>
<p>Hansen is a scientist at NASA&#8217;s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York and a professor at Columbia University. But he is also a strident activist who has called for government action to curb greenhouse gases for years. While his study was published online Saturday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, it is unlikely to sway opinion among the remaining climate change skeptics.</p>
<p>However, several climate scientists praised the new work.</p>
<p>In a blunt departure from most climate research, Hansen&#8217;s study — based on statistics, not the more typical climate modeling — blames these three heat waves purely on global warming:</p>
<p>Last year&#8217;s devastating Texas-Oklahoma drought.</p>
<p>The 2010 heat waves in Russia and the Middle East, which led to thousands of deaths.</p>
<p>The 2003 European heat wave blamed for tens of thousands of deaths, especially among the elderly in France.</p>
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		By: Ron Kilmartin		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/down-the-rabbit-hole-on-cap-and-trade/#comment-24741</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Kilmartin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The CO2 emission versus global mean  temperature over the last 15 years is a non-relationship.  Absolutely no correlation.  The following article shows the latest trend of CO2 emission compared to the most current global temperature DATA set (DATA, as opposed to manipulated computer MODELS).  
http://www.c3headlines.com/2012/08/new-hadcrut-data-indicate-huge-co2-emissions-have-little-impact-on-last-15-years-of-global-cooling.html


This graph confirms Mary Nichols statement as Katy noted  that the It is like throwing the money into a  landfill. $billions that CA is spending on CO2 emission control are  exactly how Katy has titled the article: money down a rathole.  Nothing California can do will affect global temperatures one iota.  Every dime spent by the state and local governments, and every cap and trade ripoff hidden tax passed to businesses and consumers is a waste.  When are the people of CA going to wise up and put their foot down on this emission control scene from Groucho Marx?  
Alice in Wonderland?  So what is the puzzle of Wonderland.?  What are  Brown, Nichols and the Legislature getting out of this wild spree of trashing the state’s resources and the peoples wealth as they play Don Quixote?  Some kind of enviro feel-good?  They feel good about throwing our money away for nothing???  Somebody is getting something out of it, but it is not the people, of Califonria and apparently not the schools (and it is sure not the global temperature).
So the Governor wants billions in tax increases (Prop 30) to pay off his public union friends.  And the threat is if the voters do not vote in the taxes, he will not reduce spending for his cronies, he will just take what he wants from the schools –that is his plan, his threat to the people.   Before he takes one dime from the schools, he must defund CARB and put AB 32 entirely on ice as enviroganda nonsense and an environmental perversion.  
I encourage Californians to vote no on Prop 30.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CO2 emission versus global mean  temperature over the last 15 years is a non-relationship.  Absolutely no correlation.  The following article shows the latest trend of CO2 emission compared to the most current global temperature DATA set (DATA, as opposed to manipulated computer MODELS).<br />
<a href="http://www.c3headlines.com/2012/08/new-hadcrut-data-indicate-huge-co2-emissions-have-little-impact-on-last-15-years-of-global-cooling.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.c3headlines.com/2012/08/new-hadcrut-data-indicate-huge-co2-emissions-have-little-impact-on-last-15-years-of-global-cooling.html</a></p>
<p>This graph confirms Mary Nichols statement as Katy noted  that the It is like throwing the money into a  landfill. $billions that CA is spending on CO2 emission control are  exactly how Katy has titled the article: money down a rathole.  Nothing California can do will affect global temperatures one iota.  Every dime spent by the state and local governments, and every cap and trade ripoff hidden tax passed to businesses and consumers is a waste.  When are the people of CA going to wise up and put their foot down on this emission control scene from Groucho Marx?<br />
Alice in Wonderland?  So what is the puzzle of Wonderland.?  What are  Brown, Nichols and the Legislature getting out of this wild spree of trashing the state’s resources and the peoples wealth as they play Don Quixote?  Some kind of enviro feel-good?  They feel good about throwing our money away for nothing???  Somebody is getting something out of it, but it is not the people, of Califonria and apparently not the schools (and it is sure not the global temperature).<br />
So the Governor wants billions in tax increases (Prop 30) to pay off his public union friends.  And the threat is if the voters do not vote in the taxes, he will not reduce spending for his cronies, he will just take what he wants from the schools –that is his plan, his threat to the people.   Before he takes one dime from the schools, he must defund CARB and put AB 32 entirely on ice as enviroganda nonsense and an environmental perversion.<br />
I encourage Californians to vote no on Prop 30.</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, The Decider		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/down-the-rabbit-hole-on-cap-and-trade/#comment-24740</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, The Decider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 03:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[roger Queeg mssg received-- ted out]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roger Queeg mssg received&#8211; ted out</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/down-the-rabbit-hole-on-cap-and-trade/#comment-24739</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a crock..

This is not Pravda or Investia...it is CWD!

Global warming was hatched most likely in a curry smelling hell hole in North Berkley by a nest of blue hair hippies....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a crock..</p>
<p>This is not Pravda or Investia&#8230;it is CWD!</p>
<p>Global warming was hatched most likely in a curry smelling hell hole in North Berkley by a nest of blue hair hippies&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/down-the-rabbit-hole-on-cap-and-trade/#comment-24738</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;“The business community has long supported a well-designed cap and trade program to help meet the goals of AB 32, the 2006 Global Warming Solutions Act,” Jack Stewart, president of the California Manufacturers and Technology Association, recently wrote in Capitol Weekly. &lt;/b&gt;

Well, they&#039;re getting what they deserve.  Global warming ins a fraud and if they go along with it this is what happens.

Just like the idiot Caulifornia (as Ahnode sez) voters they are going to get it good and hard.  And Algore is laughing all the way to his mansions (after stopping at the bank first).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>“The business community has long supported a well-designed cap and trade program to help meet the goals of AB 32, the 2006 Global Warming Solutions Act,” Jack Stewart, president of the California Manufacturers and Technology Association, recently wrote in Capitol Weekly. </b></p>
<p>Well, they&#8217;re getting what they deserve.  Global warming ins a fraud and if they go along with it this is what happens.</p>
<p>Just like the idiot Caulifornia (as Ahnode sez) voters they are going to get it good and hard.  And Algore is laughing all the way to his mansions (after stopping at the bank first).</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/down-the-rabbit-hole-on-cap-and-trade/#comment-24737</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shun him]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shun him</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, The Decider		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/14/down-the-rabbit-hole-on-cap-and-trade/#comment-24736</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, The Decider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[zzzzzzzzzzzzz

0 for 10 (tm)

nuff said!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zzzzzzzzzzzzz</p>
<p>0 for 10 &#8482;</p>
<p>nuff said!</p>
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