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		By: Chuckiechan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuckiechan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/24/despite-killing-jobs-cap-and-trade-on-track/#comment-25371&quot;&gt;Carl Souza&lt;/a&gt;.

You mean &quot;gelded&quot; state!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/24/despite-killing-jobs-cap-and-trade-on-track/#comment-25371">Carl Souza</a>.</p>
<p>You mean &#8220;gelded&#8221; state!</p>
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		By: Mark Talmont		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/24/despite-killing-jobs-cap-and-trade-on-track/#comment-25380</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Talmont]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 19:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I watched some of the hearings before one of the legislative committees on the California Channel, quite alarming. The testimony from industry made a strong case that for one thing there is no way there is going to be enough ethanol available for blending into California gas so get ready for higher prices there. A glass manufacturer from Kingsburg pleaded his case that under CARB&#039;s rules there is no way they can maintain current production, much less expand even though there is rising demand for their products designed for...solar panels!
I am increasingly sympathetic to the view at KILLCARB.org, the scandal about the guy with the fake Phd who cooked up the diesel data should have resulted in a purge, but they are apparently politically protected due to Jerry Brown&#039;s legacy connection to them. Chair Mary Nichols is a belligerent dictacrat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched some of the hearings before one of the legislative committees on the California Channel, quite alarming. The testimony from industry made a strong case that for one thing there is no way there is going to be enough ethanol available for blending into California gas so get ready for higher prices there. A glass manufacturer from Kingsburg pleaded his case that under CARB&#8217;s rules there is no way they can maintain current production, much less expand even though there is rising demand for their products designed for&#8230;solar panels!<br />
I am increasingly sympathetic to the view at KILLCARB.org, the scandal about the guy with the fake Phd who cooked up the diesel data should have resulted in a purge, but they are apparently politically protected due to Jerry Brown&#8217;s legacy connection to them. Chair Mary Nichols is a belligerent dictacrat.</p>
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		By: fletch92131		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/24/despite-killing-jobs-cap-and-trade-on-track/#comment-25379</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fletch92131]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AB 23 was outgunned/outfunded by the very &quot;Greenies&quot; who think the nation&#039;s air is getting worse and that CA could &quot;lead&quot; the nation towards a &quot;a more responsible&quot; environmental policy. Funny thing though, when the federal version of this came-up for a vote, not a single Senator voted, including our CA Senators, were onboard. Perhaps they actually listened to the briefing describing how voting for it would place the nation at a competitive disadvantage, and by voting against, or abstaining, they could say they didn&#039;t support doing that to California citizens. 
Finally, the CA organization that studied the law and predicted a million-person job loss was denounced as &quot;funded by Big-Oil&quot; and the Koch Brothers. Not so funny was the fact that their prediction came true, we&#039;re down more than a million workers, and the tax revenue that goes with their salaries isn&#039;t being collected. 
BOY, I SURE FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AB 23 was outgunned/outfunded by the very &#8220;Greenies&#8221; who think the nation&#8217;s air is getting worse and that CA could &#8220;lead&#8221; the nation towards a &#8220;a more responsible&#8221; environmental policy. Funny thing though, when the federal version of this came-up for a vote, not a single Senator voted, including our CA Senators, were onboard. Perhaps they actually listened to the briefing describing how voting for it would place the nation at a competitive disadvantage, and by voting against, or abstaining, they could say they didn&#8217;t support doing that to California citizens.<br />
Finally, the CA organization that studied the law and predicted a million-person job loss was denounced as &#8220;funded by Big-Oil&#8221; and the Koch Brothers. Not so funny was the fact that their prediction came true, we&#8217;re down more than a million workers, and the tax revenue that goes with their salaries isn&#8217;t being collected.<br />
BOY, I SURE FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT!</p>
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		By: John Alexander		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Alexander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Most all the people are stupid in CA. because they are going to vote for obama.Everybody should move out of CA. and just leave Hollywood, the environmentalist, progressives, and gays.This cap and trade is straight from the whitehouse, and you won&#039;t be happy when you get your utility bill. Probably be allowances for all illegals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most all the people are stupid in CA. because they are going to vote for obama.Everybody should move out of CA. and just leave Hollywood, the environmentalist, progressives, and gays.This cap and trade is straight from the whitehouse, and you won&#8217;t be happy when you get your utility bill. Probably be allowances for all illegals.</p>
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		By: hopeandchange1		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/24/despite-killing-jobs-cap-and-trade-on-track/#comment-25377</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hopeandchange1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 23:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always feel sad when I read stuff like this or see another California city has gone bankrupt.  I love my home state, I wish the Progressives would get electro-shock therapy and change course.  So sad to watch, I just can&#039;t stand the injustice of the destruction of this beautiful state by stupid politics.  My birthplace has been taken over by selfish, greedy, incompetent trolls.  So sad...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always feel sad when I read stuff like this or see another California city has gone bankrupt.  I love my home state, I wish the Progressives would get electro-shock therapy and change course.  So sad to watch, I just can&#8217;t stand the injustice of the destruction of this beautiful state by stupid politics.  My birthplace has been taken over by selfish, greedy, incompetent trolls.  So sad&#8230;</p>
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		By: David Travers		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/24/despite-killing-jobs-cap-and-trade-on-track/#comment-25376</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Travers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 03:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These are sick people promoting their Enron created vision for California.  Make no mistake about it, this is a massive transfer of wealth from the poor and the middle to those whom the politicians select.

CARB has again overreached like they did with MTBE.  Their vision of energy is built on lies and fraud and we will all pay dearly for their destrictive behaviour couched in &quot;helping the children.&quot;

Political pedofiles at their worst.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are sick people promoting their Enron created vision for California.  Make no mistake about it, this is a massive transfer of wealth from the poor and the middle to those whom the politicians select.</p>
<p>CARB has again overreached like they did with MTBE.  Their vision of energy is built on lies and fraud and we will all pay dearly for their destrictive behaviour couched in &#8220;helping the children.&#8221;</p>
<p>Political pedofiles at their worst.</p>
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		By: Solar57		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/24/despite-killing-jobs-cap-and-trade-on-track/#comment-25375</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Solar57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 05:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[California will be a third world state in less than ten years. they need to fix up their beaches and parks to prepare to be a tourist attraction. most other businesses will be gone. Oh yeah, get ready for soaring crime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California will be a third world state in less than ten years. they need to fix up their beaches and parks to prepare to be a tourist attraction. most other businesses will be gone. Oh yeah, get ready for soaring crime.</p>
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		By: C-Lion		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/24/despite-killing-jobs-cap-and-trade-on-track/#comment-25374</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C-Lion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 01:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This scam was hatched in the mind of &quot;progressives&quot; who demonized dirty, &quot;obsolete&quot; industry while at the same time fantasizing that &quot;clean&quot; computers and software were the wave of the future.
The truth is that computers can only function in a sterilized, climate-controlled environment that requires massive amounts of energy. Factor in the data-centers that provide the computing power of internet powerhouses like Google and Facebook, and the Big Lie of benevolent, &quot;green&quot; computers is exposed.
(I&#039;m assuming that government entities have, of course, been exempted)
Cap &#038; Trade will doom CA&#039;s economy. &quot;Liberals&quot; scream about &quot;crony capitalism.&quot; This is it in spades - government and Wall Street laughing all the way to the bank.
R.I.P. CA middle class.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This scam was hatched in the mind of &#8220;progressives&#8221; who demonized dirty, &#8220;obsolete&#8221; industry while at the same time fantasizing that &#8220;clean&#8221; computers and software were the wave of the future.<br />
The truth is that computers can only function in a sterilized, climate-controlled environment that requires massive amounts of energy. Factor in the data-centers that provide the computing power of internet powerhouses like Google and Facebook, and the Big Lie of benevolent, &#8220;green&#8221; computers is exposed.<br />
(I&#8217;m assuming that government entities have, of course, been exempted)<br />
Cap &amp; Trade will doom CA&#8217;s economy. &#8220;Liberals&#8221; scream about &#8220;crony capitalism.&#8221; This is it in spades &#8211; government and Wall Street laughing all the way to the bank.<br />
R.I.P. CA middle class.</p>
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		By: Ron Kilmartin		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/24/despite-killing-jobs-cap-and-trade-on-track/#comment-25373</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Kilmartin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 04:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And where were all these folks when Proposition 23 was before the voters, and did they or did they not support Proposition 23?  It was not about dirty air as envirogandist Nichols claims, it was about clean-as-a-whistle CO2 emissions. 

If there are organizations out there who will put their money where there mouth is, they can fund putting Prop 23 (2010) back on the ballot for 2014.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where were all these folks when Proposition 23 was before the voters, and did they or did they not support Proposition 23?  It was not about dirty air as envirogandist Nichols claims, it was about clean-as-a-whistle CO2 emissions. </p>
<p>If there are organizations out there who will put their money where there mouth is, they can fund putting Prop 23 (2010) back on the ballot for 2014.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/09/24/despite-killing-jobs-cap-and-trade-on-track/#comment-25372</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this very clear explanation of an awful situation. Great article and reporting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this very clear explanation of an awful situation. Great article and reporting.</p>
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