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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 04:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is pretty deep stuff for CWD posters....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty deep stuff for CWD posters&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/10/26/californias-real-debt-617-billion/#comment-27410</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you really care?   Just PACK AND SHIP!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you really care?   Just PACK AND SHIP!</p>
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		By: ExPFCWintergreen		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/10/26/californias-real-debt-617-billion/#comment-27409</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As I understand it the Dept. of Finance, Governor and the Legislature do not even take into account pension liabilities or bonded indebtedness when it calculates the state budget, does forecasting, etc.  They merely list amounts totaling what the minimum payment on the credit card will be on these items for the fiscal year, and consider that to be the sum and substance of the buegt liabilities.

If ture, what this is evidence of is massive intentional fraud. If this were a (hated) corporation, the officers would be subject to federal indictment, but these A**hats are entitled to perpetrate additional fraud upon the people of California by selling a bunch of lies about cuts to teachers, firefighters, and the like if we don&#039;t feed their insatiable habits and vote for their tax increase initiatives.  

I for one would never ever give more money to a spendthrift, and will certainly not do so.  What we need is a spendthrift trust, not a state budget.  Further, the public schools need to be privatized, welfare eligibility needs to be cut to the federal minimums, etc. 

In the meantime vote NO on all tax increases, school bonds, transportation bonds...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand it the Dept. of Finance, Governor and the Legislature do not even take into account pension liabilities or bonded indebtedness when it calculates the state budget, does forecasting, etc.  They merely list amounts totaling what the minimum payment on the credit card will be on these items for the fiscal year, and consider that to be the sum and substance of the buegt liabilities.</p>
<p>If ture, what this is evidence of is massive intentional fraud. If this were a (hated) corporation, the officers would be subject to federal indictment, but these A**hats are entitled to perpetrate additional fraud upon the people of California by selling a bunch of lies about cuts to teachers, firefighters, and the like if we don&#8217;t feed their insatiable habits and vote for their tax increase initiatives.  </p>
<p>I for one would never ever give more money to a spendthrift, and will certainly not do so.  What we need is a spendthrift trust, not a state budget.  Further, the public schools need to be privatized, welfare eligibility needs to be cut to the federal minimums, etc. </p>
<p>In the meantime vote NO on all tax increases, school bonds, transportation bonds&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/10/26/californias-real-debt-617-billion/#comment-27408</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 06:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if Governor Moonbeam can be bothered to read this

&lt;i&gt;Despite playing a key role in advancing climate change hysteria, the United Kingdom’s National Weather Service, known as the Met Office, quietly released a report last week conceding that so-called “global warming” actually stopped more than 15 years ago. The startling admission shows once again that United Nations theories and climate models are wildly inaccurate at best, experts say, meaning multi-trillion dollar schemes to deal with alleged human-caused “climate change” are at the very least severely misguided. &lt;/i&gt;

http://lewrockwell.com/spl4/global-warming-stopped-15-years-ago.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Governor Moonbeam can be bothered to read this</p>
<p><i>Despite playing a key role in advancing climate change hysteria, the United Kingdom’s National Weather Service, known as the Met Office, quietly released a report last week conceding that so-called “global warming” actually stopped more than 15 years ago. The startling admission shows once again that United Nations theories and climate models are wildly inaccurate at best, experts say, meaning multi-trillion dollar schemes to deal with alleged human-caused “climate change” are at the very least severely misguided. </i></p>
<p><a href="http://lewrockwell.com/spl4/global-warming-stopped-15-years-ago.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://lewrockwell.com/spl4/global-warming-stopped-15-years-ago.html</a></p>
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		By: NTHEOC		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog! says:
October 26, 2012 at 8:41 pm
LOL….NTHEOC, living in the Fantasyland of gov support 
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What&#039;s up Dogg!!!! I just knew I would get a warm response from You,,,,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex the Wonder Dog! says:<br />
October 26, 2012 at 8:41 pm<br />
LOL….NTHEOC, living in the Fantasyland of gov support<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
What&#8217;s up Dogg!!!! I just knew I would get a warm response from You,,,,</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/10/26/californias-real-debt-617-billion/#comment-27406</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOL....NTHEOC, living in the Fantasyland of gov support ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;.NTHEOC, living in the Fantasyland of gov support 😉</p>
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		By: NTHEOC		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/10/26/californias-real-debt-617-billion/#comment-27405</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NTHEOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[barb says:	
October 26, 2012 at 5:19 pm	
Such a disaster! California will never recover until several scenarios occur and Ms. Grimes mentioned the largest, stinging problem. Unfunded pension liabilities. Until this problem is controlled, you re preaching to the choir!
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Keep drinking the Koolaid barb!!!! I&#039;m sure it&#039;s the easiest way you can think of blaming the public pension system. Dummy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>barb says:<br />
October 26, 2012 at 5:19 pm<br />
Such a disaster! California will never recover until several scenarios occur and Ms. Grimes mentioned the largest, stinging problem. Unfunded pension liabilities. Until this problem is controlled, you re preaching to the choir!<br />
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Keep drinking the Koolaid barb!!!! I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s the easiest way you can think of blaming the public pension system. Dummy!</p>
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		By: NTHEOC		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/10/26/californias-real-debt-617-billion/#comment-27404</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NTHEOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kevin says:	
October 26, 2012 at 2:55 pm	
@NTHEOC: That is exactly what Lenin and Marx would say! How did that work out for the 99% in Russia
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Hey kevin,
How is capatalism working out for ya!!Capitalism works gloriously for the world&#039;s ruling 2%. The rest of us get the Trickle Down effect. The vast majority of the world&#039;s population reaps little or no benefit from a political system based on profiteering and turning people against each other in the mad search for money. Which is exactly whats happening now!! It is the lowest common denominator humans can reach. Works for the elite (so loved by the right) but doesn&#039;t work for the people that really work for a living.Vote yes on 30 and end the 1% elite pigs!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin says:<br />
October 26, 2012 at 2:55 pm<br />
@NTHEOC: That is exactly what Lenin and Marx would say! How did that work out for the 99% in Russia<br />
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Hey kevin,<br />
How is capatalism working out for ya!!Capitalism works gloriously for the world&#8217;s ruling 2%. The rest of us get the Trickle Down effect. The vast majority of the world&#8217;s population reaps little or no benefit from a political system based on profiteering and turning people against each other in the mad search for money. Which is exactly whats happening now!! It is the lowest common denominator humans can reach. Works for the elite (so loved by the right) but doesn&#8217;t work for the people that really work for a living.Vote yes on 30 and end the 1% elite pigs!!!</p>
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		By: barb		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/10/26/californias-real-debt-617-billion/#comment-27403</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Such a disaster!  California will never recover until several scenarios occur and Ms. Grimes mentioned the largest, stinging problem. Unfunded pension liabilities.  Until this problem is controlled, you re preaching to the choir!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such a disaster!  California will never recover until several scenarios occur and Ms. Grimes mentioned the largest, stinging problem. Unfunded pension liabilities.  Until this problem is controlled, you re preaching to the choir!</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/10/26/californias-real-debt-617-billion/#comment-27402</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know the money goes for gov goodies.....stand with us....get in line early!!!     best goodie selection before high noon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know the money goes for gov goodies&#8230;..stand with us&#8230;.get in line early!!!     best goodie selection before high noon.</p>
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