Comments on: Prop. 30: California deserves better

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:40:19 +0000

Very sad turn for California that Prop 30 passed. Once again throwing money that people work hard to hear for their families is instead being thrown into the pockets of administrators that make more than the average doctor or lawyer. Education already gets over 48 billion dollars a year, more then the entire gross domestic product of several state. With this passing prices on everything will be going up, meaning less money in the economy and reduced job growth or worse. Schools boards need to use their funds properly not get more off the backs of the people of the state.

By: SeeSaw

SeeSaw — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 07:01:39 +0000

Well, Prop. 38 and Molly got what they deserved. The Governor outsmarted them–good.

By: Jane

Jane — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 02:02:53 +0000

I see that Ms. Sha is a university serf, toiling away while the slumlord class runs the university to enrich themselves.

Ms. Sha, you are being used. Do you understand that?

By: Jane

Jane — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 02:00:55 +0000

Why would anyone send their children to schools where they will be indoctrinated by the slumlord and foreign rich sector to be good little Marxist servants?

Ms. Sha, why are you being sucked in by people who don’t like you and see you and your family as a means to enrtich themselves amd friends while they take and tax away your power?

I thought educated people were supposed to be able to figure out when they were being used.

By: Bubba

Bubba — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:50:36 +0000

The problem with the education system and related monies in this state for it is that far too many are receiving “free” education for which they have contributed no monies for. Example free schooling for Illegal Aliens, in state college tuition rates for Illegal Aliens (While Active Duty Military non residents have to pay out of state rates).
This state has turned into one big black hole where the freeloaders get all the benefits and the taxpayers get the shaft!
And for prop 13, my property taxes are high enough already thank you very much. I don’t need Gov. Moonbeam squandering anymore of my money. Of course “no one knew his record”. Ran California in bankruptcy during previous terms as Gov. Ran city of Oakland into bankruptcy and on and on. Jerry Brown is nothing more than a puppet for higher taxes and his union friends who keep electing him.
With passage of Prop. 30 Prop. Z (Billion dollar bond for the “Schools”)etc. How much money do the schools need? From what I read it seems that very little of monies designated for schools actually goes to the schools. Most of monies go to administration and administers.

All you educators seem to be out of touch with real world issues. Too much time living in your kingdom of academia no doubt!

So Dr. Sha go cry in your glass of wine with all the rest of your liberal Phd friends and send your kids to a private school if you are so “concerned” about their education! Obviously you must have enough money for that since you advocate higher taxes?

By: JLSeagull

JLSeagull — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:44:01 +0000

Dr. Sha, Your argument against Prop 30 is very convincing and I will be voting against it. But I will also be voting against the fraud that is Prop 38.
TV ads for Prop 38 say that all the money will go to grades K-12 and law makers will not be able to touch it. BULL HOCKEY!!! Read the Legislative Analyst’s analysis in the Voter Information Guide.
1) $3+ Billion of the $10 Billion raised every year through FY 2016-2017 will go to pay off current General Fund Education Bonds thereby freeing up a similar amount for use by other general fund projects. (Visions of Lottery money, anyone).
2) 51.6% of the funds will go to fund Early Childhood Education (ECE), ages 3-5.
3) 16.6% of the funds will go to fund programs from birth to age 3.
That’s 68.2% of the funds going to kids NOT in grades 1-12.

So let’s do some simple arithmetic. $10B in new taxes – $3B for education bonds – $5.16B for ages 3-5 ECE -$1.66B for ages birth to 3 years leaves $180 million for grades 1-12.
With all due respect, Dr. Sha, I don’t know what field your PhD is in but it surely is NOT in mathamatics.
I may be wrong but it would appear that the mathematical abilities of our educators is symptomatic of what is wrong with the education of California students.

By: Calman

Calman — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 04:29:39 +0000

In response to eyeamok:

Where do you come up with $30K funding for each pupil in California? There isn’t a state in the U.S. that has that kind of funding. The problem is that Californians are more concerned about incarcerating citizens than educating them. Let’s think outside of the box and actually invest in our future by supporting education and stop being short sighted and thinking only about ourselves. That’s what got us into the economic downturn that we are currently in.

By: P. Possum

P. Possum — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:55:57 +0000

Once again we have special taxes for special people with special projects. A pox on all your houses. Apparently the Prop 98 40%+ of the budget was not enough to fund all the new administrator positions for the teachers who didn’t enjoy teaching. Apparently the special disposition of lottery funds to schools was insufficient to keep up with the failure to require actual funding of teacher pensions. Now we have to put up with more taxes to support a failed system, a system where teacher unions veto district participation in federal funds because those funds might accidentally require some level of accountability. By the way, even those federal funds come out your taxpaying wallet.

By: Bob

Bob — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 23:56:41 +0000

Sorry, Bey-Ling.

I voted no on 38 (and 30 as well).

Colliefornia (as Ahnode calls it) already has a 9.3% marginal income rate that kicks in at around $48k. No other state has anything approaching this.

Under the tax increase you want to see that would increase to nearly 11%.

This is just insane, Bey-Ling.

11% is far more than most rich people in other states pay.

The schools already get a huge amount of money. The schools in this state have all sorts of problems but not enough money is not one of them.

By: StevefromSacto

StevefromSacto — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:01:47 +0000

“Why is this person being allowed to shill for more taxes on this site?”

Gee, eyeamok, are you against free speech or are you just worried about getting confused by the facts?