Comments on: It’s official: California now a Third World republic

By: Hondo

Hondo — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:29:13 +0000

Someone called me and said the new Charley Manson’s were the teachers unions but I wouldn’t go that far (yet).
Hondo….

By: Hondo

Hondo — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:22:17 +0000

I meant, “out of the Third Reich”.
Hondo…

By: Hondo

Hondo — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:17:15 +0000

There are truly, moments of change, like BC and AD to point to a change in civilization 2000 years ago. In California there was BC and AC. BC is before Charley, Charley Manson, and AC, after Charley.
Before Charley there were the Beach Boys. California was literally a Beach Boy song. ” the west coast has the sunshine and the girls all get so tan” was really how is was. Sure there were hippies, but they preached love and peace and smoked too much pot and were mostly a pain in the neck to themselves.
Then came Charley, who just happened to hang out with one of the Beach Boys. The peace and love hippies turned overnight into an insane band of homicidal monsters. I grew up in SoCal and the effect was stunning. The trial was off the scale of belief. The Manson clan still worship Charley after it was obvious to everyone he was a homicidal nut. The three girls accused of these horrific murders looked like your own sisters or the neighbor girls from down the street, till they carved crosses into their foreheads like Charley did, and shaved their heads too. The Manson family clan outside the courtroom, the ones who had not been caught up in the murders all defaced themselves too, while chanting Charley’s songs on the sidewalks around the courthouse.
All of these kids grew up in middle class families. All of their parents fought off the depression and won the war. There was nothing in their backgrounds that remotely pointed to their insane actions.
California changed after Charley. The innocence was over. In our midst was a small time Hitler who could take our mainly moral and sane kids and turn them into something out or the Third Reich. Insane killers for no apparent reason. We lost our innocence then.
Hondo……..

By: Douglas

Douglas — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:34:50 +0000

You don’t have your sarcasm filter activated, John.

Dedicated Democrat is neither.

And I never said our taxes were not high enough. My only point was there is a difference between highest RATES and highest taxes.

By: CalWatchdog

CalWatchdog — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:18:54 +0000

Dedicated Democrat: You can’t tax them after they leave.

— John Seiler

By: Rex the Wonder Dog!

Rex the Wonder Dog! — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 04:30:52 +0000

Wow Hondo, you had a story to tell, and tell it you did.

I am so glad to read and hear stories like your folks/your story, because it is so different from the story we see today.

By: Hondo

Hondo — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 04:06:54 +0000

This disaster is hardest on my parents. Born in 31, raised in the depression in El Monte and Whittier, my grandparents blown here by the depression. They grew a garden and ‘put up’ a lot of the food they ate. There were no food stamps. There were soup lines at churches. Most simply ate less. They grew up thin, but they grew up.
Then came the war. Coming of age during the greatest war of all time. Every man of age went to war. Very few stayed back for certain industries. My Gramma Greene was a ‘Rosie the riveter’. And beyond all belief, we won. We won the greatest victory over evil of all time. With the rest of the world in shambles, America was the last place on earth that could manufacture something. So we did. A boom beyond all belief occured.
My parents were married in the early 50’s, in the greatest state, in the greatest country, at its greatest time ever. They were people who came from no means or money and proceeded to prosper. They bought a house in an ok neighborhood. My dad had a good job in the exploding telephone industry. My mom stayed home. Almost every mom in my neighborhood stayed home. They didn’t need to work. People of my generation, both parents began to work. Nowdays, no young marrieds have a mom at home. Unless its the welfare class, where it prospers to not work.
We belonged to a small country club. Just a pool, a vollyball court and a lodge on a corner across the street primary school I attended. A public school. A good public school.
The 50’s and the 60’s, up until Jerry Brown became governor, were the best of times. Up until the gas crisis of the early 70’s. Things began to change. It was never as good as it was for us kids as it was for our parents. I shunned ‘government work’ as did my older brother. I rue the day I turned down that job at the public library. My younger brother and sister work for the government. They think they got it good, that their future is protected by the government unions. They got it better than me, or my older brother who hasn’t worked in years. He has made a ‘less than honest living’ at times, but he has a mortgage to pay. My younger brother works for San Berdoo county. He is in ignorant bliss thinking retirement is secure in such an insecure county. It’s just the city is bad, he says. My sister thinks her public school pension is safe too. She is blissfully ignorant of the coming horrific conflict between the welfare class and the public union class. When, in the coming few years, we will see gigantic cuts to the welfare class to pay for the gigantic salaries and pensions of the government class.
The young kids in our extended families mostly have drifted to other states to find work. So many of the kids under 30 are of the welfare class or are out of state. No one in this welfare class ‘puts up’ food or grows a garden. No one is really thin, they all have those plastic cards in their wallets
My parents cannot believe the catastrophe that is California. Their golden state. I can barely call them now for their depression. Sure, there is the depression of very old age. But to see their progeny doing so much worse than them, far worse. That this greatest state in the greatest country, so close to it’s greatest times, is now a very real third world country. An illiterate turd world country.
I took Eucharist this morning at church and dreaded calling my mom. She cries often. I put it off till this eve, but they weren’t home, to my relief. I’ll call them in the morning.
Hondo…….

By: Bob Smith

Bob Smith — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:42:10 +0000

“You know that as late as 1970 or so, California housing prices were about on par with national averages?”

Yes, and soon after California started practicing “smart growth” (it was not called that then). The Coastal Commission and SB375 are “smart growth” in all but name.

Local governments have bought up billions of dollars in productive land and taken it out of circulation in the name of “greenspace”, lowering their tax revenues which required higher rates on the taxpayers.

Low-income housing setasides, “impact fees” costing $100k+ per unit, and years worth of regulatory costs and studies before you turn a single spade of dirt, vastly increase costs and cause builders to stop building low-end housing entirely (because, after the losses due to setasides and the extreme fees added onto land costs, you can’t make money doing low-end projects). And, now that you’ve pushed builders into ever higher-end markets, they’re doing fewer units, further constraining supply.

By: jimmydeeoc

jimmydeeoc — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:01:53 +0000

Ohh I completely agree, Dys….

The million-a-year club will just pay the extra few percent and continue to live the easy life in Palo Alto or Brentwood.

But let’s say you do tractor service and sales out of Bakersfield. You happen to pull in $400K/yr, do 70-hour weeks and plow most of it back in your business. YOU’RE the enemy, acc’d to Obama, and in California you’ll get the Prop 30 AND AB 32 double-whammy.

And some point in the not too distant future you’ll just say F-it and go Galt.

By: Rex the Wonder Dog!

Rex the Wonder Dog! — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:59:56 +0000

Doigie, CA has the HIGHEST SALES TAX in both absolute AND relative terms…..yeashhhh!