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	Comments on: Gov. Brown&#8217;s Prop. 30 ego trip: How &#8230; Schwarzeneggerian!	</title>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/19/gov-browns-prop-30-ego-trip-how-schwarzeneggerian/#comment-28802</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 03:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[–. Still, will bet you dollars to donuts that teachers don’t get 8 to 10% raises every 6 months for 15 years
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Go back and READ seesaw, teachers get annual step increases-10-15-20 years, OTHER trougher jobs get 6 month step increases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>–. Still, will bet you dollars to donuts that teachers don’t get 8 to 10% raises every 6 months for 15 years<br />
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Go back and READ seesaw, teachers get annual step increases-10-15-20 years, OTHER trougher jobs get 6 month step increases.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/19/gov-browns-prop-30-ego-trip-how-schwarzeneggerian/#comment-28801</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 03:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Seesaw:
 
“What is the average median wage–$10 hr? At 600% more that would be $600/hr. ”
 
600% of 10 bucks an hour is 60 bucks.
 
YOU, sir, should NOT teach math – at any level.&lt;/b&gt;

LOL...seesaw is even dumber than Dougie, and he is dumber than a bag of rocks....the AVERAGE teacher comp is actually $80/hour.

I think the mean state salary is $29K/year which would be about $14/hour]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Seesaw:</p>
<p>“What is the average median wage–$10 hr? At 600% more that would be $600/hr. ”</p>
<p>600% of 10 bucks an hour is 60 bucks.</p>
<p>YOU, sir, should NOT teach math – at any level.</b></p>
<p>LOL&#8230;seesaw is even dumber than Dougie, and he is dumber than a bag of rocks&#8230;.the AVERAGE teacher comp is actually $80/hour.</p>
<p>I think the mean state salary is $29K/year which would be about $14/hour</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I stand corrected--and as I said I was not a teacher.  (I was the best geometry student, long ago.)  I used a calculator but didn&#039;t put decimal points in the right place.  I am not a sir--.  Still, will bet you dollars to donuts that teachers don&#039;t get 8 to 10% raises every 6 months for 15 years.  All the teachers I know are middle class.  Whatever, they earn it, when you consider the educational requirements compared to what other degreed occupations pay.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected&#8211;and as I said I was not a teacher.  (I was the best geometry student, long ago.)  I used a calculator but didn&#8217;t put decimal points in the right place.  I am not a sir&#8211;.  Still, will bet you dollars to donuts that teachers don&#8217;t get 8 to 10% raises every 6 months for 15 years.  All the teachers I know are middle class.  Whatever, they earn it, when you consider the educational requirements compared to what other degreed occupations pay.</p>
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		By: jimmydeeoc		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/19/gov-browns-prop-30-ego-trip-how-schwarzeneggerian/#comment-28799</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rex:

A friend of my wife, an LAUSD teacher, 50-ish, just got her master&#039;s in education.  

I looked at the class list.  The equivalent of 2 full years of useless, no objective criteria drivel.   LOTS of diversity such and such, as you can imagine.  

Intellectually a complete waste of time.  But she enjoys that pop in her paycheck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex:</p>
<p>A friend of my wife, an LAUSD teacher, 50-ish, just got her master&#8217;s in education.  </p>
<p>I looked at the class list.  The equivalent of 2 full years of useless, no objective criteria drivel.   LOTS of diversity such and such, as you can imagine.  </p>
<p>Intellectually a complete waste of time.  But she enjoys that pop in her paycheck.</p>
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		By: jimmydeeoc		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/19/gov-browns-prop-30-ego-trip-how-schwarzeneggerian/#comment-28798</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seesaw:

&quot;What is the average median wage–$10 hr? At 600% more that would be $600/hr. &quot;

600% of 10 bucks an hour is 60 bucks.

YOU, sir, should NOT teach math - at any level.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seesaw:</p>
<p>&#8220;What is the average median wage–$10 hr? At 600% more that would be $600/hr. &#8221;</p>
<p>600% of 10 bucks an hour is 60 bucks.</p>
<p>YOU, sir, should NOT teach math &#8211; at any level.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/19/gov-browns-prop-30-ego-trip-how-schwarzeneggerian/#comment-28797</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“…..teachers who spend 5-6 years+ in higher education getting the proper credentials….”
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Actually it is only 1 year, two semesters,  1 semester of useless classes, the second student teaching, and a credential means NOTHING as there is no criteria based objective testing for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…..teachers who spend 5-6 years+ in higher education getting the proper credentials….”<br />
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Actually it is only 1 year, two semesters,  1 semester of useless classes, the second student teaching, and a credential means NOTHING as there is no criteria based objective testing for it.</p>
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		By: jimmydeeoc		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/19/gov-browns-prop-30-ego-trip-how-schwarzeneggerian/#comment-28796</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More on TEACHER CERTIFICATION......

I mean seriously - that just boils my blood.  It&#039;s not as if you have to know anything technical or exceptional to teach K-12, with the exception perhaps of math and science to upper classmen.  

As to the rest.....do you REALLY need a math degree to teach 8th grade math?  That&#039;s preposterous.  (A complete joke, as I alluded to earlier.)

Show me someone who is energetic, dynamic and can command attention, And I&#039;ll show you someone who can teach just about anything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on TEACHER CERTIFICATION&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I mean seriously &#8211; that just boils my blood.  It&#8217;s not as if you have to know anything technical or exceptional to teach K-12, with the exception perhaps of math and science to upper classmen.  </p>
<p>As to the rest&#8230;..do you REALLY need a math degree to teach 8th grade math?  That&#8217;s preposterous.  (A complete joke, as I alluded to earlier.)</p>
<p>Show me someone who is energetic, dynamic and can command attention, And I&#8217;ll show you someone who can teach just about anything.</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/19/gov-browns-prop-30-ego-trip-how-schwarzeneggerian/#comment-28795</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is the average median wage--$10 hr?  At 600% more that would be $600/hr.  Really, Rex!  Why do you have to waste people&#039;s time with such tripe!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the average median wage&#8211;$10 hr?  At 600% more that would be $600/hr.  Really, Rex!  Why do you have to waste people&#8217;s time with such tripe!</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/19/gov-browns-prop-30-ego-trip-how-schwarzeneggerian/#comment-28794</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have neighbors who are teachers--I live in a neighborhood of 50&#039;s era tract houses.  My neighbors are not living in manions in Beverly Hills.  Eight to ten percent raises every six months for 15 years?  That&#039;s bull****!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have neighbors who are teachers&#8211;I live in a neighborhood of 50&#8217;s era tract houses.  My neighbors are not living in manions in Beverly Hills.  Eight to ten percent raises every six months for 15 years?  That&#8217;s bull****!</p>
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		By: jimmydeeoc		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/19/gov-browns-prop-30-ego-trip-how-schwarzeneggerian/#comment-28793</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;.....teachers who spend 5-6 years+ in higher education getting the proper credentials....&quot;

As if THAT will make them good teachers?

 We all know, from our OWN experience, that some of the best teachers might have only a year under their belts, and some of the worst have 20 years and a list of &quot;credentials&quot; as long as their arm.  They still sucked.

The whole &quot;credential&quot; game is the biggest joke/worst policy in the entire Edusphere racket.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;..teachers who spend 5-6 years+ in higher education getting the proper credentials&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>As if THAT will make them good teachers?</p>
<p> We all know, from our OWN experience, that some of the best teachers might have only a year under their belts, and some of the worst have 20 years and a list of &#8220;credentials&#8221; as long as their arm.  They still sucked.</p>
<p>The whole &#8220;credential&#8221; game is the biggest joke/worst policy in the entire Edusphere racket.</p>
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