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		By: Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof.		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/28/will-millionaires-avoid-prop-30-tax-increase/#comment-29191</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 16:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poor Poodle--- He has about zero reading comp.!!!

and he remains   0 for 14 (tm) !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Poodle&#8212; He has about zero reading comp.!!!</p>
<p>and he remains   0 for 14 &#8482; !</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/28/will-millionaires-avoid-prop-30-tax-increase/#comment-29190</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Troffer, go BACK and re-read what your idiotic comment said.......;

&lt;b&gt;&quot;They bought new cars every year, spent, enjoyed ...&quot; &lt;/b&gt;

You said they cannot retire b/c they bought new cars every year......Now you&#039;re changing your tune. Fact is most people can not make ends meet as the MEDIAN salary in the state is $29K, about $20K AFTER taxes and FICA withholding. That does not allow a 401K or any other way to save, in fact at least 74% of $20K would go to housing alone, if you could even find an APARTMENT for $1K a month.

Like I said- good thing you had your gov workfare.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troffer, go BACK and re-read what your idiotic comment said&#8230;&#8230;.;</p>
<p><b>&#8220;They bought new cars every year, spent, enjoyed &#8230;&#8221; </b></p>
<p>You said they cannot retire b/c they bought new cars every year&#8230;&#8230;Now you&#8217;re changing your tune. Fact is most people can not make ends meet as the MEDIAN salary in the state is $29K, about $20K AFTER taxes and FICA withholding. That does not allow a 401K or any other way to save, in fact at least 74% of $20K would go to housing alone, if you could even find an APARTMENT for $1K a month.</p>
<p>Like I said- good thing you had your gov workfare.</p>
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		By: Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof.		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/28/will-millionaires-avoid-prop-30-tax-increase/#comment-29189</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 04:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poody! I am sorry you&#039;re such a frustrated guy. All I know Poody is that I look around and see alot of folks who spent lives NOT preparing for retirement. The keys are the keys! 401 k&#039;s combined with investments and 6 months of liquid and social security work if your home is paid off ----BUT have no chance of working if you have a fat mortgage. I live at the beach in the same house I have been in for 30 plus years. MANY of my friends bought bigger ocean front homes when the real estate got crazy lucrative--- I didn&#039;t. They got huge new mortgages. It helped me alot to own my home. I do have a small gov pension from a bit over 10 years of gov work--- it&#039;s small but combined with everything else and owning my home it works pretty well.......I still practice my profession on the side but I can make it without it.... Sorry Poody!!!

0 for 14 (tm) !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poody! I am sorry you&#8217;re such a frustrated guy. All I know Poody is that I look around and see alot of folks who spent lives NOT preparing for retirement. The keys are the keys! 401 k&#8217;s combined with investments and 6 months of liquid and social security work if your home is paid off &#8212;-BUT have no chance of working if you have a fat mortgage. I live at the beach in the same house I have been in for 30 plus years. MANY of my friends bought bigger ocean front homes when the real estate got crazy lucrative&#8212; I didn&#8217;t. They got huge new mortgages. It helped me alot to own my home. I do have a small gov pension from a bit over 10 years of gov work&#8212; it&#8217;s small but combined with everything else and owning my home it works pretty well&#8230;&#8230;.I still practice my profession on the side but I can make it without it&#8230;. Sorry Poody!!!</p>
<p>0 for 14 &#8482; !</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;That’s how I retired– A lot of these whiners out here NEVER did any of it. They bought new cars every year, spent, enjoyed and now the winter’s here and guess what? No acorns! Sad but true! Watch who responds to this—-LOL—– HUGE whines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;/b&gt;

I love how this trougher tries to claim that everyone who has lost a REAL job and cannot make ends meet is because they &quot;bought new cars every year&quot; and a million other baloney excuses...Teddy, with your HS ed skill set you could not buy a tree house without your gov workfare job. N
uff said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>That’s how I retired– A lot of these whiners out here NEVER did any of it. They bought new cars every year, spent, enjoyed and now the winter’s here and guess what? No acorns! Sad but true! Watch who responds to this—-LOL—– HUGE whines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</b></p>
<p>I love how this trougher tries to claim that everyone who has lost a REAL job and cannot make ends meet is because they &#8220;bought new cars every year&#8221; and a million other baloney excuses&#8230;Teddy, with your HS ed skill set you could not buy a tree house without your gov workfare job. N<br />
uff said.</p>
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		By: DavidfromLosGatos		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/28/will-millionaires-avoid-prop-30-tax-increase/#comment-29187</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidfromLosGatos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It takes time for people to relocate their professional and personal lives permanently out of California (and watch out for the FTB if it is only temporary ...).  I’m not talking about the “idle rich,” whoever that is, but people with busy professional and family lives.  

In our case, it helps that our kids are grown, and my wife is happy to early &quot;retire&quot; from the work force.  But, it will still take at least a year to get my business moved to a new state (new professional licenses, office space, getting clients comfortable with the change, shedding CA employees, hiring new employees, etc.).  CA will get at least two years (2012 and 2013) and maybe half of 2014 out of us before we are gone.

IMO, it will be a few years before there is any noticeable impact on CA state tax collections as a result of Prop 30, although I agree with above posts regarding the more immediate impact with respect to those that do not move to, or establish themselves in, California in the first place.

I also agree that, while the .25% sales tax increase is nothing, I am going out of my way to avoid making any big purchases during my remaining CA time.  Just my own tiny, insignificant way of saying FU back to Jerry Brown.  A couple of new cars are sorely needed and easily affordable in my household, but we will wait and buy in our new state - which also has high sales tax rate, but is not tacking on an additional 13.3 percent income tax on the same earned-through-working dollars used to buy the cars.

No worries, Ted, we won’t let the CA state door slam against our asses on the way out of town.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes time for people to relocate their professional and personal lives permanently out of California (and watch out for the FTB if it is only temporary &#8230;).  I’m not talking about the “idle rich,” whoever that is, but people with busy professional and family lives.  </p>
<p>In our case, it helps that our kids are grown, and my wife is happy to early &#8220;retire&#8221; from the work force.  But, it will still take at least a year to get my business moved to a new state (new professional licenses, office space, getting clients comfortable with the change, shedding CA employees, hiring new employees, etc.).  CA will get at least two years (2012 and 2013) and maybe half of 2014 out of us before we are gone.</p>
<p>IMO, it will be a few years before there is any noticeable impact on CA state tax collections as a result of Prop 30, although I agree with above posts regarding the more immediate impact with respect to those that do not move to, or establish themselves in, California in the first place.</p>
<p>I also agree that, while the .25% sales tax increase is nothing, I am going out of my way to avoid making any big purchases during my remaining CA time.  Just my own tiny, insignificant way of saying FU back to Jerry Brown.  A couple of new cars are sorely needed and easily affordable in my household, but we will wait and buy in our new state &#8211; which also has high sales tax rate, but is not tacking on an additional 13.3 percent income tax on the same earned-through-working dollars used to buy the cars.</p>
<p>No worries, Ted, we won’t let the CA state door slam against our asses on the way out of town.</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/28/will-millionaires-avoid-prop-30-tax-increase/#comment-29186</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Catherine Danueve. (Probably mispelled.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine Danueve. (Probably mispelled.)</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, Navigator		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/28/will-millionaires-avoid-prop-30-tax-increase/#comment-29185</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Navigator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well Yves Montand and Michael Picolli are worthy of at least a mention.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Yves Montand and Michael Picolli are worthy of at least a mention.</p>
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		By: CalWatchdog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/28/will-millionaires-avoid-prop-30-tax-increase/#comment-29184</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CalWatchdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Luke: Which other French actors might Americans recognize? Names, please.

-- John Seiler]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke: Which other French actors might Americans recognize? Names, please.</p>
<p>&#8212; John Seiler</p>
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		By: Luke		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/28/will-millionaires-avoid-prop-30-tax-increase/#comment-29183</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Depardieu and Bardot are the only French actors Americans recognize? What is it 1993?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depardieu and Bardot are the only French actors Americans recognize? What is it 1993?</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/28/will-millionaires-avoid-prop-30-tax-increase/#comment-29182</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BobA, you make your debate without hurling personal insults at the person you are addressing.  I respect that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BobA, you make your debate without hurling personal insults at the person you are addressing.  I respect that.</p>
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