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	Comments on: Post-pension reform law, let the public employee gaming begin	</title>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Then you can ask Daniel Mitchell (CATO Institute) about increasing revenue by decreasing tax rates.

&quot;This means teaching folks on the left that tax policy affects incentives to earn and report taxable income.&quot;..&quot;If you double tax rates, for instance, you won&#039;t double tax revenue.&quot;

&quot;But it also means teaching folks on the right that it is wildly wrong to claim that &quot;all tax cuts pay for themselves&quot; or that &quot;tax increases always mean less revenue.&quot; Those results occur in rare circumstances.&quot;



Note to John Boehner: It is not wrong to claim that all tax cuts pay for themselves: It is WILDLY wrong.

It is not wrong to claim that tax increases (prop 30? anyone) always mean less revenue: It is WILDLY wrong.

Who does this Daniel Mitchell think he is?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then you can ask Daniel Mitchell (CATO Institute) about increasing revenue by decreasing tax rates.</p>
<p>&#8220;This means teaching folks on the left that tax policy affects incentives to earn and report taxable income.&#8221;..&#8221;If you double tax rates, for instance, you won&#8217;t double tax revenue.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But it also means teaching folks on the right that it is wildly wrong to claim that &#8220;all tax cuts pay for themselves&#8221; or that &#8220;tax increases always mean less revenue.&#8221; Those results occur in rare circumstances.&#8221;</p>
<p>Note to John Boehner: It is not wrong to claim that all tax cuts pay for themselves: It is WILDLY wrong.</p>
<p>It is not wrong to claim that tax increases (prop 30? anyone) always mean less revenue: It is WILDLY wrong.</p>
<p>Who does this Daniel Mitchell think he is?</p>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JON COUPAL / President, Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association

&quot;We in California have just moved up from fifth to fourth in a ranking of the states by the Washington, D.C.–based Tax Foundation.&quot;  &quot;California leads 46 other states in per-capita tax burden&quot; 

What? NOT number one? Who does this Jon Coupal think he is?



Come on, folks, &quot;rates&quot; is rates and &quot;base&quot; is base. If you don&#039;t believe me, ask John Boehner.  You can increase taxes by increasing rates OR by eliminating deductions.

&quot;Highest rates&quot; is NOT the same thing as highest taxes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JON COUPAL / President, Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association</p>
<p>&#8220;We in California have just moved up from fifth to fourth in a ranking of the states by the Washington, D.C.–based Tax Foundation.&#8221;  &#8220;California leads 46 other states in per-capita tax burden&#8221; </p>
<p>What? NOT number one? Who does this Jon Coupal think he is?</p>
<p>Come on, folks, &#8220;rates&#8221; is rates and &#8220;base&#8221; is base. If you don&#8217;t believe me, ask John Boehner.  You can increase taxes by increasing rates OR by eliminating deductions.</p>
<p>&#8220;Highest rates&#8221; is NOT the same thing as highest taxes.</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/06/post-pension-reform-law-let-the-public-employee-gaming-begin/#comment-29544</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The management group has the right to organize, but I don&#039;t know how it is legal for it to join the rank and file union that it negotiated with in passing the rank and file group&#039;s current contract.  Seems like they would have to bargain a contract of their own.  According to the pension reform act they can draw it out for five years, in the CB process.  (Then, there will probably be some court suits filed on both sides.)  If they have extra take-home for the next five years, it should help the economy.  I don&#039;t know why there should be a lot of chest-beating over this.  The very rich use every avenue available to them for cutting their taxes and shielding as much as they can for their own little piggy banks, don&#039;t they?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The management group has the right to organize, but I don&#8217;t know how it is legal for it to join the rank and file union that it negotiated with in passing the rank and file group&#8217;s current contract.  Seems like they would have to bargain a contract of their own.  According to the pension reform act they can draw it out for five years, in the CB process.  (Then, there will probably be some court suits filed on both sides.)  If they have extra take-home for the next five years, it should help the economy.  I don&#8217;t know why there should be a lot of chest-beating over this.  The very rich use every avenue available to them for cutting their taxes and shielding as much as they can for their own little piggy banks, don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/06/post-pension-reform-law-let-the-public-employee-gaming-begin/#comment-29543</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s funny--the biggest spinner on the comment forums calling another poster a spinner.  What is bogus about refuting the idea that CA has the highest taxes in the country, when the biggest spin is just the opposite?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s funny&#8211;the biggest spinner on the comment forums calling another poster a spinner.  What is bogus about refuting the idea that CA has the highest taxes in the country, when the biggest spin is just the opposite?</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/06/post-pension-reform-law-let-the-public-employee-gaming-begin/#comment-29542</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Doug, take your stupid spin elsewhere, really. Your comments are bogus to start with, but even if they were TRUE who cares if it is 1st or 4th, does a 3 place differential make that much difference- NO, now let the grown ups figure out a way to clean this mess up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, take your stupid spin elsewhere, really. Your comments are bogus to start with, but even if they were TRUE who cares if it is 1st or 4th, does a 3 place differential make that much difference- NO, now let the grown ups figure out a way to clean this mess up.</p>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/06/post-pension-reform-law-let-the-public-employee-gaming-begin/#comment-29541</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Highest tax &quot;rates&quot;, not the &quot;highest taxes in the country&quot;.

Number four in effective tax burden.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Highest tax &#8220;rates&#8221;, not the &#8220;highest taxes in the country&#8221;.</p>
<p>Number four in effective tax burden.</p>
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		By: Hondo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hondo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Moonbeams wall of debt is here.  You can game the system all you want, but when the state voted in the highest taxes in the country, at all levels of govt., it destroyed the economic base from which the taxes come from.
Apple just crashed again.  The state was counting on the taxes from Apple and facebook to balance their budget.  Now what.
Hondo....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moonbeams wall of debt is here.  You can game the system all you want, but when the state voted in the highest taxes in the country, at all levels of govt., it destroyed the economic base from which the taxes come from.<br />
Apple just crashed again.  The state was counting on the taxes from Apple and facebook to balance their budget.  Now what.<br />
Hondo&#8230;.</p>
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