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		By: Ted Steele, Janitor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Janitor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...or a farthing Cratchet!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;or a farthing Cratchet!</p>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/07/pri-study-california-public-sector-compensation-soaring/#comment-29614</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 02:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not a sou.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a sou.</p>
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		<title>
		By: Ted		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 02:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes bobah.........and not a penny more!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes bobah&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and not a penny more!</p>
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		By: BobA		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/07/pri-study-california-public-sector-compensation-soaring/#comment-29612</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BobA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 02:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rex:

Ditto. That is exactly my point. An open and free market presumes that you have a marketable product or a commodity for sale or in exchange for the same. The government has neither. The government produces nothing of any intrinsic value nor does it produces wealth. It either consumes wealth or redistributes wealth.

I often ask the few liberals I know to name for me one item that is made, manufactured or produced by the government that anyone can buy from their local grocery market, their local department store of their local hardware store. They can&#039;t. That is as it should be in a free market capitalist society. Anything else are but shades of communism.

Post hoc; ergo prompter hoc, it is only right and fair that government salaries should be below that of those in private industry and never a dime more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex:</p>
<p>Ditto. That is exactly my point. An open and free market presumes that you have a marketable product or a commodity for sale or in exchange for the same. The government has neither. The government produces nothing of any intrinsic value nor does it produces wealth. It either consumes wealth or redistributes wealth.</p>
<p>I often ask the few liberals I know to name for me one item that is made, manufactured or produced by the government that anyone can buy from their local grocery market, their local department store of their local hardware store. They can&#8217;t. That is as it should be in a free market capitalist society. Anything else are but shades of communism.</p>
<p>Post hoc; ergo prompter hoc, it is only right and fair that government salaries should be below that of those in private industry and never a dime more.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/07/pri-study-california-public-sector-compensation-soaring/#comment-29611</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 01:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;But if it wasn’t my hard earned tax dollars paying their salaries, I wouldn’t begrudge them for what they make. &lt;/b&gt;
In the OPEN AND FREE MARKET I would feel the exact same way, but gov employment is not open and not in a free market, there are NO market forces setting wages/compensation in gov

 &lt;b&gt;After all, in the private sector the saying goes that you’re worth what ever your employer will pay you.&lt;/b&gt;

In an open and free market this is true, as above, not true in gov emloyment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>But if it wasn’t my hard earned tax dollars paying their salaries, I wouldn’t begrudge them for what they make. </b><br />
In the OPEN AND FREE MARKET I would feel the exact same way, but gov employment is not open and not in a free market, there are NO market forces setting wages/compensation in gov</p>
<p> <b>After all, in the private sector the saying goes that you’re worth what ever your employer will pay you.</b></p>
<p>In an open and free market this is true, as above, not true in gov emloyment.</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, Janitor		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/07/pri-study-california-public-sector-compensation-soaring/#comment-29610</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Janitor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOL--- Well...THAT was fun!




Oh....and John......I&#039;ll try not to cite any MSNBC studies!




0 for 14 (tm)!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8212; Well&#8230;THAT was fun!</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;.and John&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;ll try not to cite any MSNBC studies!</p>
<p>0 for 14 &#8482;!</p>
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		By: BobA		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/07/pri-study-california-public-sector-compensation-soaring/#comment-29609</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BobA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 22:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For what it&#039;s worth:

I&#039;ve worked in the private sector all of my life so I don&#039;t know that much about what the average government employee makes other than what I hear and from what I here, many are over-paid for what they do.

But if it wasn&#039;t my hard earned tax dollars paying their salaries, I wouldn&#039;t begrudge them for what they make. After all, in the private sector the saying goes that you&#039;re worth what ever your employer will pay you.

Since the government has the power to tax, that saying should never apply to the public sector because the sky will be no limit on how high public sector employee salaries will grow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked in the private sector all of my life so I don&#8217;t know that much about what the average government employee makes other than what I hear and from what I here, many are over-paid for what they do.</p>
<p>But if it wasn&#8217;t my hard earned tax dollars paying their salaries, I wouldn&#8217;t begrudge them for what they make. After all, in the private sector the saying goes that you&#8217;re worth what ever your employer will pay you.</p>
<p>Since the government has the power to tax, that saying should never apply to the public sector because the sky will be no limit on how high public sector employee salaries will grow.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/07/pri-study-california-public-sector-compensation-soaring/#comment-29608</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There you go, Ted. Those firemen make almost as much as a journeyman plumber.
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Journeymen plumbers make around $30 an hour in salary and maybe another $5 an hour in benefits IF they are on a prevailing wage job. 

Prevailing wage jobs account for only 25% of construction jobs WHEN there is construction since construction work is seasonal, and sometimes they can be out of work for 1, 2 3 years or more, like today. 

There is not comparison between a plumber and firewhiner. When was the last time you saw 5K people line up for a single plumbers job???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There you go, Ted. Those firemen make almost as much as a journeyman plumber.<br />
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Journeymen plumbers make around $30 an hour in salary and maybe another $5 an hour in benefits IF they are on a prevailing wage job. </p>
<p>Prevailing wage jobs account for only 25% of construction jobs WHEN there is construction since construction work is seasonal, and sometimes they can be out of work for 1, 2 3 years or more, like today. </p>
<p>There is not comparison between a plumber and firewhiner. When was the last time you saw 5K people line up for a single plumbers job???</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/07/pri-study-california-public-sector-compensation-soaring/#comment-29607</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just out of curiosity, if a GED is minimum requirement for a fireman or law officer, and there are 500 to 5,000 applicants for every position, I wonder how many actually get hired with just a GED?
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Since they do not hire on merit, most, as in 80% in large metro areas, just ask Mark Fuhrman.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of curiosity, if a GED is minimum requirement for a fireman or law officer, and there are 500 to 5,000 applicants for every position, I wonder how many actually get hired with just a GED?<br />
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Since they do not hire on merit, most, as in 80% in large metro areas, just ask Mark Fuhrman.</p>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/07/pri-study-california-public-sector-compensation-soaring/#comment-29606</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just out of curiosity, if a GED is minimum requirement for a fireman or law officer, and there are 500 to 5,000 applicants for every position, I wonder how many actually get hired with just a GED?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of curiosity, if a GED is minimum requirement for a fireman or law officer, and there are 500 to 5,000 applicants for every position, I wonder how many actually get hired with just a GED?</p>
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