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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/18/lockyer-anti-gun-ideology-would-hit-ca-taxpayers/#comment-30245</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know the converting of semi auto to fulll auto is NOT a problem as Iknow of no recent acts like that, in gfact I can not recall one in the past althought there must be a few instances.

Gus didn&#039;t kill Bin Laden, Navy Seals Did. Food didn&#039;t kill Chris Farley, his eating habits and lack of exercise did. Don&#039;t blame honest firearm owners for the small number who are mentally ill and go crazy- as the CT and CO shooters obviously were.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the converting of semi auto to fulll auto is NOT a problem as Iknow of no recent acts like that, in gfact I can not recall one in the past althought there must be a few instances.</p>
<p>Gus didn&#8217;t kill Bin Laden, Navy Seals Did. Food didn&#8217;t kill Chris Farley, his eating habits and lack of exercise did. Don&#8217;t blame honest firearm owners for the small number who are mentally ill and go crazy- as the CT and CO shooters obviously were.</p>
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		By: Rye		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/18/lockyer-anti-gun-ideology-would-hit-ca-taxpayers/#comment-30244</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I served in the military for 9 years, 2 of those years as an armorer. I can tell you rex that it is more difficult than you think to convert an AR to full auto. The parts are not the same in a semi as they are in auto, and are not so readily available. It has been done without the proper parts (or a proper smith), however, these &quot;conversions&quot; are easily fouled or break very quickly. As for Ntheoc, have you ever witnessed the carnage that a single individual can create with a single shot, bolt action rifle ? Horrifying doesnt begin to describe it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I served in the military for 9 years, 2 of those years as an armorer. I can tell you rex that it is more difficult than you think to convert an AR to full auto. The parts are not the same in a semi as they are in auto, and are not so readily available. It has been done without the proper parts (or a proper smith), however, these &#8220;conversions&#8221; are easily fouled or break very quickly. As for Ntheoc, have you ever witnessed the carnage that a single individual can create with a single shot, bolt action rifle ? Horrifying doesnt begin to describe it.</p>
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		By: Dyspeptic		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/18/lockyer-anti-gun-ideology-would-hit-ca-taxpayers/#comment-30243</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dyspeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NTHEOC writes - &quot;We see the children in CT as victims, you see them as collateral damage so as long as you can keep your weapons!!&quot;

Jimmiedee is right, you only see children as political pawns in your public disarmament schemes. He also has a point about putting away the morning bong before writing such self serving drivel. 

Your statement about AR-15&#039;s being converted to full auto is irrelevant nonsense. Non of these mass shootings involved automatic weapons. Rifles of all types account for less than 3% of all gun related deaths in this country. The semi-auto&#039;s you gun haters want to ban are a fraction of that 3%. There are tens of millions of these semi-auto rifles in private hands already so how would a ban on further sales stop more mass shootings? Ever heard of Anders Brevik? Norway has stringent gun control laws like England and both countries still have mass shooting sprees by demented individuals. No free society can stop mass killings entirely so how much of a police state do you want to implement in a failed attempt to achieve the impossible?

&quot;I am not advocating taking all guns away from people.&quot;

Not yet anyway. The way gun control works in this country is incrementally. First semi-auto rifles are made illegal, then after more mass shootings with pistols you gun haters will want handguns made illegal. Then when someone uses a 12 gauge home defense shotgun to commit a mass killing you will advocate banning defensive shotguns, which by the way, are far more deadly at close range than an AR15 rifle and can be made concealable with nothing more than a hack saw. 

&quot;Also,these rambo wannabes store thousands of rounds of ammo, and for what?&quot;

For shooting of course! As in recreational activity like hunting, target practice, plinking and personal defense training. A competitive shooter can expend 500 or more rounds in one weekend of competition. If you had ever taken a defensive handgun course you would know that they require shooting 500 to 1000 rounds to successfully complete the program. Shooting sports are like any other sport. Achieving high skill levels requires lots of practice, which requires lots of ammunition. DUH!

Do you see the pattern here? Every time gun control fails, like with the Gun Free School Zones Act, the solution from gun control Fascists is more gun control and more citizen disarmament. Only irrational or stupid people keep advocating more of the same failed policies and expecting a different result. NO FORM OF GUN CONTROL WILL STOP THESE KINDS OF UNUSUAL BUT GRUESOME CRIMES. Gun hating Fascist phonies like DiFi know this. They just cynically use these tragedies to scare an ignorant and frightened nation into supporting more failed policies.

STOP DANCING IN THE BLOOD OF VICTIMS AND WRINGING YOUR HANDS WITH GLEE WHEN INNOCENTS DIE. 

STOP USING SENSATIONALIZED TRAGEDIES TO PUSH YOUR DISARMAMENT AGENDA.

SOMEDAY YOU GUN HATER GOONS WILL GO TOO FAR AND THEN IT WILL REALLY GET UGLY.

BEFORE THAT HAPPENS GET A CLUE AND LEARN SOME RESPECT FOR OUR 2ND AMENDMENT CIVIL RIGHTS, WHICH DON&#039;T EXIST JUST SO ELMER FUDD CAN HUNT WASCALLY WABBITS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NTHEOC writes &#8211; &#8220;We see the children in CT as victims, you see them as collateral damage so as long as you can keep your weapons!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Jimmiedee is right, you only see children as political pawns in your public disarmament schemes. He also has a point about putting away the morning bong before writing such self serving drivel. </p>
<p>Your statement about AR-15&#8217;s being converted to full auto is irrelevant nonsense. Non of these mass shootings involved automatic weapons. Rifles of all types account for less than 3% of all gun related deaths in this country. The semi-auto&#8217;s you gun haters want to ban are a fraction of that 3%. There are tens of millions of these semi-auto rifles in private hands already so how would a ban on further sales stop more mass shootings? Ever heard of Anders Brevik? Norway has stringent gun control laws like England and both countries still have mass shooting sprees by demented individuals. No free society can stop mass killings entirely so how much of a police state do you want to implement in a failed attempt to achieve the impossible?</p>
<p>&#8220;I am not advocating taking all guns away from people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not yet anyway. The way gun control works in this country is incrementally. First semi-auto rifles are made illegal, then after more mass shootings with pistols you gun haters will want handguns made illegal. Then when someone uses a 12 gauge home defense shotgun to commit a mass killing you will advocate banning defensive shotguns, which by the way, are far more deadly at close range than an AR15 rifle and can be made concealable with nothing more than a hack saw. </p>
<p>&#8220;Also,these rambo wannabes store thousands of rounds of ammo, and for what?&#8221;</p>
<p>For shooting of course! As in recreational activity like hunting, target practice, plinking and personal defense training. A competitive shooter can expend 500 or more rounds in one weekend of competition. If you had ever taken a defensive handgun course you would know that they require shooting 500 to 1000 rounds to successfully complete the program. Shooting sports are like any other sport. Achieving high skill levels requires lots of practice, which requires lots of ammunition. DUH!</p>
<p>Do you see the pattern here? Every time gun control fails, like with the Gun Free School Zones Act, the solution from gun control Fascists is more gun control and more citizen disarmament. Only irrational or stupid people keep advocating more of the same failed policies and expecting a different result. NO FORM OF GUN CONTROL WILL STOP THESE KINDS OF UNUSUAL BUT GRUESOME CRIMES. Gun hating Fascist phonies like DiFi know this. They just cynically use these tragedies to scare an ignorant and frightened nation into supporting more failed policies.</p>
<p>STOP DANCING IN THE BLOOD OF VICTIMS AND WRINGING YOUR HANDS WITH GLEE WHEN INNOCENTS DIE. </p>
<p>STOP USING SENSATIONALIZED TRAGEDIES TO PUSH YOUR DISARMAMENT AGENDA.</p>
<p>SOMEDAY YOU GUN HATER GOONS WILL GO TOO FAR AND THEN IT WILL REALLY GET UGLY.</p>
<p>BEFORE THAT HAPPENS GET A CLUE AND LEARN SOME RESPECT FOR OUR 2ND AMENDMENT CIVIL RIGHTS, WHICH DON&#8217;T EXIST JUST SO ELMER FUDD CAN HUNT WASCALLY WABBITS.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/18/lockyer-anti-gun-ideology-would-hit-ca-taxpayers/#comment-30242</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John, first off, I am not advocating taking all guns away from people. Just the high powered assault type weapons(i.e AR15) that are or can be converted easily to full auto,or can hold 100 round clips
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NTHEOC, I know in CA no magazine holdimg more than 10 rounds is leagal, is that not the case natioonwide also??

As fpor converting a semor auto to automatic, can you name one incodnet in the lasyt 10 years where a semi automatic was convirtes to full automatic and used in a mass murder like CT or CO?????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, first off, I am not advocating taking all guns away from people. Just the high powered assault type weapons(i.e AR15) that are or can be converted easily to full auto,or can hold 100 round clips<br />
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NTHEOC, I know in CA no magazine holdimg more than 10 rounds is leagal, is that not the case natioonwide also??</p>
<p>As fpor converting a semor auto to automatic, can you name one incodnet in the lasyt 10 years where a semi automatic was convirtes to full automatic and used in a mass murder like CT or CO?????</p>
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		By: NTHEOC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NTHEOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 03:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CalWatchdog says:	
NTHEOC: What would the “collateral damage” be if you went, house to house, and grabbed the more than 300 million guns owned by Americans? Would you do it personally? When hundreds of thousands of Americans resisted, would you shoot them?
– John Seiler
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John, first off, I am not advocating taking all guns away from people. Just the high powered assault type weapons(i.e AR15) that are or can be converted easily to full auto,or can hold 100 round clips.Also,these rambo wannabes store thousands of rounds of ammo,and for what? There is no amount of stockpile you people can have that would be sufficient to stop the gov&#039;t. Do you really think that you could! I do support home and business protection and a 12 guage shotgun is more than enough! I also support hunters who eat their kill and the only rifle i would want to be legal would be a bolt action single shot.Like you really need an AR15 for that!! If all the millions of assault rifle gun owners are so law abiding like you say then they would have no problem obeying the law and turning in their guns, right? Otherwise they can choose to go down &quot;WACO STYLE&quot;!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CalWatchdog says:<br />
NTHEOC: What would the “collateral damage” be if you went, house to house, and grabbed the more than 300 million guns owned by Americans? Would you do it personally? When hundreds of thousands of Americans resisted, would you shoot them?<br />
– John Seiler<br />
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John, first off, I am not advocating taking all guns away from people. Just the high powered assault type weapons(i.e AR15) that are or can be converted easily to full auto,or can hold 100 round clips.Also,these rambo wannabes store thousands of rounds of ammo,and for what? There is no amount of stockpile you people can have that would be sufficient to stop the gov&#8217;t. Do you really think that you could! I do support home and business protection and a 12 guage shotgun is more than enough! I also support hunters who eat their kill and the only rifle i would want to be legal would be a bolt action single shot.Like you really need an AR15 for that!! If all the millions of assault rifle gun owners are so law abiding like you say then they would have no problem obeying the law and turning in their guns, right? Otherwise they can choose to go down &#8220;WACO STYLE&#8221;!!!!</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, at least he is not floating a &quot;ban&quot;, as DiFi did in 83 in SF....well, DiFi did more than float the idea, she implemented a city policy/law banning firearms. Didn&#039;t last long.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, at least he is not floating a &#8220;ban&#8221;, as DiFi did in 83 in SF&#8230;.well, DiFi did more than float the idea, she implemented a city policy/law banning firearms. Didn&#8217;t last long.</p>
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		By: CalWatchdog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/18/lockyer-anti-gun-ideology-would-hit-ca-taxpayers/#comment-30239</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CalWatchdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NTHEOC, it was only last spring that the Connecticut state legislature defeated a bill, which would have given the state the right to institutionalize a person who is mentally ill for treatment, if the state had enough evidence to believe that the person could be a danger to himself or the community.

Predictably, the ACLU opposed the important bill with calling it “outrageously discriminatory.” The ACLU said the bill would “infringe on patients’ privacy rights by expanding [the circle of] who can medicate individuals without their consent.”

This guy would have qualified as mentally ill under this law.

Katy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NTHEOC, it was only last spring that the Connecticut state legislature defeated a bill, which would have given the state the right to institutionalize a person who is mentally ill for treatment, if the state had enough evidence to believe that the person could be a danger to himself or the community.</p>
<p>Predictably, the ACLU opposed the important bill with calling it “outrageously discriminatory.” The ACLU said the bill would “infringe on patients’ privacy rights by expanding [the circle of] who can medicate individuals without their consent.”</p>
<p>This guy would have qualified as mentally ill under this law.</p>
<p>Katy</p>
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		By: CalWatchdog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CalWatchdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NTHEOC: What would the &quot;collateral damage&quot; be if you went, house to house, and grabbed the more than 300 million guns owned by Americans? Would you do it personally? When hundreds of thousands of Americans resisted, would you shoot them?

-- John Seiler]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NTHEOC: What would the &#8220;collateral damage&#8221; be if you went, house to house, and grabbed the more than 300 million guns owned by Americans? Would you do it personally? When hundreds of thousands of Americans resisted, would you shoot them?</p>
<p>&#8212; John Seiler</p>
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		By: jimmydeeoc		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/18/lockyer-anti-gun-ideology-would-hit-ca-taxpayers/#comment-30237</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimmydeeoc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;We see the children in CT as victims...&quot;

BS.  You see them as ideological pawns.

Once again, NTHEOC shows why morning bong-hits are not a good idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We see the children in CT as victims&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>BS.  You see them as ideological pawns.</p>
<p>Once again, NTHEOC shows why morning bong-hits are not a good idea.</p>
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		By: NTHEOC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NTHEOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Seiler says,
America still mourns the victims of the Newtown mass murder. It’s predictable that anti-gun Democratic ideologues would use the tragedy to advance their position — at the expense not only of our Second Amendment “right to keep and bear arms,” but at the expense of taxpayers.
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Again, the real difference in our opinions compared to yours john is this. We see the children in CT as victims, you see them as collateral damage so as long as you can keep your weapons!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Seiler says,<br />
America still mourns the victims of the Newtown mass murder. It’s predictable that anti-gun Democratic ideologues would use the tragedy to advance their position — at the expense not only of our Second Amendment “right to keep and bear arms,” but at the expense of taxpayers.<br />
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Again, the real difference in our opinions compared to yours john is this. We see the children in CT as victims, you see them as collateral damage so as long as you can keep your weapons!!</p>
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