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	Comments on: California health exchanges &#8211; &#8216;Mo Money&#8217;	</title>
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		By: Relevant facts would help		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-39859</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Relevant facts would help]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-30745&quot;&gt;We dont need Facts&lt;/a&gt;.

Paid for by what federal dollars?  The Federal govt. is broke and even our president has said so.  The federal government is bailing out California currently while borrowing 41 cents out of every dollar they spend and will have to continue to do so unless serious changes occur (both bail out California and borrow money).  Making a point about &quot;different populations&quot; doesn&#039;t change the overall fact that someone is going to have to foot the bill for this thing and it will be taxpayers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-30745">We dont need Facts</a>.</p>
<p>Paid for by what federal dollars?  The Federal govt. is broke and even our president has said so.  The federal government is bailing out California currently while borrowing 41 cents out of every dollar they spend and will have to continue to do so unless serious changes occur (both bail out California and borrow money).  Making a point about &#8220;different populations&#8221; doesn&#8217;t change the overall fact that someone is going to have to foot the bill for this thing and it will be taxpayers.</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-30754</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SeeSaw, the DMV doesn&#039;t regulate a thing!  It is a two-bit jobs program for people that either never sought productive work, have friends in the RAGWUS, or simply are unquilified for any private sector work, just like most government positions. 

  If you believe adding another bureaucracy of governemnt to pass out health insurance is going to lower the costs of medical care then I would have to believe you would drink anything the Obama put in front of you. As a nation, we will pay more for less, and in the end, pay more for very little, because it will all be going the the bloted state medical bureaucracy workers pay, benefits, perks, and pensions. Greed has to be eliminated, and soon.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SeeSaw, the DMV doesn&#8217;t regulate a thing!  It is a two-bit jobs program for people that either never sought productive work, have friends in the RAGWUS, or simply are unquilified for any private sector work, just like most government positions. </p>
<p>  If you believe adding another bureaucracy of governemnt to pass out health insurance is going to lower the costs of medical care then I would have to believe you would drink anything the Obama put in front of you. As a nation, we will pay more for less, and in the end, pay more for very little, because it will all be going the the bloted state medical bureaucracy workers pay, benefits, perks, and pensions. Greed has to be eliminated, and soon.  🙂</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-30753</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With millions of cars in CA, we have the DMV.  Of course its a bureauocracy, Donkey!  What do you think CA is!  If you don&#039;t want bureauocracies to regulate CA, move to a state with only 300,000 population.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With millions of cars in CA, we have the DMV.  Of course its a bureauocracy, Donkey!  What do you think CA is!  If you don&#8217;t want bureauocracies to regulate CA, move to a state with only 300,000 population.</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-30752</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think any scam involved is due to the insurance companies&#039; involvement.  We are all their victims, including Obama.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think any scam involved is due to the insurance companies&#8217; involvement.  We are all their victims, including Obama.</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-30751</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will reserve judgment until I understand it.  I can read, Donkey, thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will reserve judgment until I understand it.  I can read, Donkey, thank you.</p>
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		By: dltravers		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-30750</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dltravers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You would think that if more people were involved rates would go down.  Insurance is supposed to work that way.  With the heavy hand of government involved one can only wonder what will really happen.

Most people cannot cope with managing a 401K let alone wading thru what will turn out to be a minefield of government health insurance regulations.  Mind you I am sure those lovely bureaucrats will be there to help.

While complicated we can expect some results.  Chaos in the markets, market manipulation by powerful companies, crooks gaming the system, less care for those that had insurance prior, untimely care, and the possibility of refusal of care for elderly patients not deemed important.

If people cannot afford it before goverment became involved, how will they afford it after?  Its going to cost an ocean full of money]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would think that if more people were involved rates would go down.  Insurance is supposed to work that way.  With the heavy hand of government involved one can only wonder what will really happen.</p>
<p>Most people cannot cope with managing a 401K let alone wading thru what will turn out to be a minefield of government health insurance regulations.  Mind you I am sure those lovely bureaucrats will be there to help.</p>
<p>While complicated we can expect some results.  Chaos in the markets, market manipulation by powerful companies, crooks gaming the system, less care for those that had insurance prior, untimely care, and the possibility of refusal of care for elderly patients not deemed important.</p>
<p>If people cannot afford it before goverment became involved, how will they afford it after?  Its going to cost an ocean full of money</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-30749</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is all available to read SeeSaw. I will tell you that we all will be paying for a brand new RAGWUS bureacracy similar to the DMV, and it will not so one thing to improve anyones medical care. In short , the Obamacare scam is just another government jobs program to steal from private citizens!!  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all available to read SeeSaw. I will tell you that we all will be paying for a brand new RAGWUS bureacracy similar to the DMV, and it will not so one thing to improve anyones medical care. In short , the Obamacare scam is just another government jobs program to steal from private citizens!!  🙂</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-30748</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will have to be able to completely understand what is going on before I will have an opinion.  I don&#039;t know how anything could get worse than the cost of my existing medical insurance premiums.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will have to be able to completely understand what is going on before I will have an opinion.  I don&#8217;t know how anything could get worse than the cost of my existing medical insurance premiums.</p>
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		By: shsp		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-30747</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shsp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Furthermore the bill for the computer system is about $300k. I am sure the Ogilvey PR contract is 7 figures. I am on the mailing list for HBEX  where I have asked questions. The PR firm contacted me wanting to &quot;write my story&quot; for the exchange. I told her that I couldn&#039;t see a need for an exchange. Let people shop for insurance like they buy cars. The HBEX is now &quot;selecting&quot; firms to be in the exchange. What about those not selected? Will they still sell insurance? I am sure that such incertaincies were the impetus for a strange letter I received from my health insurance (which I have had since 1980) saying that there were renewing my policy for 2013 but &#039;could not guarantee &#039; anything in 2014. No reason given.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furthermore the bill for the computer system is about $300k. I am sure the Ogilvey PR contract is 7 figures. I am on the mailing list for HBEX  where I have asked questions. The PR firm contacted me wanting to &#8220;write my story&#8221; for the exchange. I told her that I couldn&#8217;t see a need for an exchange. Let people shop for insurance like they buy cars. The HBEX is now &#8220;selecting&#8221; firms to be in the exchange. What about those not selected? Will they still sell insurance? I am sure that such incertaincies were the impetus for a strange letter I received from my health insurance (which I have had since 1980) saying that there were renewing my policy for 2013 but &#8216;could not guarantee &#8216; anything in 2014. No reason given.</p>
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		By: Hondo		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2012/12/28/california-health-exchanges-mo-money/#comment-30746</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hondo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The dems will rue the day that passed this mess.  This is probably the worst piece of legislation the congress has ever passed.  
I rivals the Dred Scott supreme court decision.  
I hope this doesn&#039;t lead to a civil war. 
Hondo....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dems will rue the day that passed this mess.  This is probably the worst piece of legislation the congress has ever passed.<br />
I rivals the Dred Scott supreme court decision.<br />
I hope this doesn&#8217;t lead to a civil war.<br />
Hondo&#8230;.</p>
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