Comments on: Ron Paul blasts ‘fiscal cliff’ deal scam

By: Rex the Wonder Dog!

Rex the Wonder Dog! — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:23:47 +0000

Assemblywoman Linda Halderman, a Republican from the Central Valley who did not run for reelection, is also a doctor. She treats the poor and has for many years. However, she advocates that everyone make some form of payment, even from the poorest. She requires everyone to reach in their pocket for payment medical care, even $1.
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LOL… Reminds me of Michael J Fox in “Doc Hollywood” where the poor people paid him with a pig! I loved that pig.

By: Rex the Wonder Dog!

Rex the Wonder Dog! — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:22:53 +0000

Middle class Americans do not pay anywhere near 75% of income in taxes.
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They can easily pay 50%;

“The Tax Racket: Government Extortion From A to Z”

http://www.amazon.com/The-Tax-Racket-Government-Extortion/dp/0345387783

By: CalWatchdog

CalWatchdog — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:17:02 +0000

John is right – If everyone adhered to this responsible approach to payment for service rendered, America’s health and medical system would not be such a mess. Instead, health care has become another entitlement for too many.

Katy

By: SeeSaw

SeeSaw — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:04:43 +0000

I was using the inference of what would happen if the government did not get involved. I do consider Ron Paul a good person; he was a family doctor after all. He probably would have been better suited to the job of Surgeon General.

By: Douglas

Douglas — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 11:08:53 +0000

SeeSaw, from what I saw, you are more right than not. He didn’t say they should die if they dont have insurance (or cash). But he did say, as you stated, that the GOVERNMENT should not be involved.

Churches, charities, and doctors and hospitals working pro bono seems to be his answer. He seems to believe that is more efficient than the government bureaucracy.

Seems to me that doctors and hospitals pro bono is the same thing we have now. Cash and insurance patients are subsidizing the unensured. The money comes from somewhere.

By: Douglas

Douglas — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:40:19 +0000

Middle class Americans do not pay anywhere near 75% of income in taxes. You cannot believe everything you read on the internet.

Bonjour.

By: Rex the Wonder Dog!

Rex the Wonder Dog! — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 06:11:35 +0000

SeeSaw says:
Ron Paul was the debater who recommended letting sick people, without money or medical insurance, just die if they couldn’t afford the care
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Seesaw: he never said anything like that!!
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LOL! Seesaw makes things up as she spins her fantasyland fables….. 🙂

By: SeeSaw

SeeSaw — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 01:38:15 +0000

Guess I will need to see if I can find a replay of the debate. I can agree about the costs; but disagree that SS will ever be bankrupt before something is done to sustain it. Without SS, the country would be covered with “poor houses”.

I am a middle class American Curt. Nobody has to educate me about the costs of medical care. I retired with the benefit of medical insurance with a cap. My current out-of-pocket has matched it and will continue to increase. It is more than any other taxes I pay. There is no way of escaping them, except for the alternative.

By: CalWatchdog

CalWatchdog — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 01:20:03 +0000

SeeSaw: Ron Paul never said that. What he has done is remind us what medical care for the poor was like when he first started out as a doctor, before LBJ’s 1965 Medicare system began the ride to socialized medicine. Back then, all doctors were required, not by government, but by tradition and ethics to provide a certain part of their practice for the poor; for such services, the doctors were paid at a lower rate. The same was true for hospitals and other medical services.

There were two big advantages of the old system: The bureaucracy was a fraction of that imposed today by the government. And the system was not headed for bankruptcy, as is the current system because Medicare costs are exploding.

The system soon will become much worse, and will advance euthanizing people (something that already exists).

The rich will get treatment from special hospitals, or in countries with capitalist medicine, such as Switzerland and Singapore.

If you are poor or in the middle class, you will be sent home in a body bag. Which also will cut costs for the likewise bankrupt Socialist Security system.

— John Seiler

By: Bubba

Bubba — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 23:03:04 +0000

This is prime example of why we need term limits for congress!