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		By: Tough Love		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/01/20/being-calpers-means-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry/#comment-6985</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tough Love]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ronald Stein stated it accurately, but it&#039;s even worse.

While the &quot;givers&quot; (productive Private sector workers) may out-number the Public Sector workers, they are not organized or focused and vote in relatively low percentages.

On the contrary, due to the HUGE self-interest in the status quo of overcompensating Public Sector workers ... primarily via their grossly excessive pensions, they (along with their entire families) vote in much higher percentages.

I fear we&#039;ve reached a tipping point where becoming &quot;GREECE&quot; may no longer be avoided.

What a shame. The more intelligent of the Public Sector workers should understand they won&#039;t get their promised pensions .... as it&#039;s a mathematical impossibility.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald Stein stated it accurately, but it&#8217;s even worse.</p>
<p>While the &#8220;givers&#8221; (productive Private sector workers) may out-number the Public Sector workers, they are not organized or focused and vote in relatively low percentages.</p>
<p>On the contrary, due to the HUGE self-interest in the status quo of overcompensating Public Sector workers &#8230; primarily via their grossly excessive pensions, they (along with their entire families) vote in much higher percentages.</p>
<p>I fear we&#8217;ve reached a tipping point where becoming &#8220;GREECE&#8221; may no longer be avoided.</p>
<p>What a shame. The more intelligent of the Public Sector workers should understand they won&#8217;t get their promised pensions &#8230;. as it&#8217;s a mathematical impossibility.</p>
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		By: @SoquelCreek		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/01/20/being-calpers-means-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry/#comment-6984</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@SoquelCreek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ronald Stein, do you have a reference for your claims?  I&#039;m interested in looking at the data.

Some of what you claim is evident elsewhere. Which state has 12% of the nation&#039;s population but had 33% of the nation&#039;s recipients of Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) benefits?  Here&#039;s the data from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

CHART:  http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wAJ6vRfgi8Y/UHSqSOk1YnI/AAAAAAAABFo/Afl3omncALI/s1600/TANF+Recipients+versus+State+Population.png

In many ways, California&#039;s Proposition 30 tax hikes are an extension of the &quot;entitlement&quot; philosophy.  Big government is fine as long as somebody else is stuck with the bill.
http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/07/california-proposition-30-governor.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald Stein, do you have a reference for your claims?  I&#8217;m interested in looking at the data.</p>
<p>Some of what you claim is evident elsewhere. Which state has 12% of the nation&#8217;s population but had 33% of the nation&#8217;s recipients of Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) benefits?  Here&#8217;s the data from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.</p>
<p>CHART:  <a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wAJ6vRfgi8Y/UHSqSOk1YnI/AAAAAAAABFo/Afl3omncALI/s1600/TANF+Recipients+versus+State+Population.png" rel="nofollow ugc">http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wAJ6vRfgi8Y/UHSqSOk1YnI/AAAAAAAABFo/Afl3omncALI/s1600/TANF+Recipients+versus+State+Population.png</a></p>
<p>In many ways, California&#8217;s Proposition 30 tax hikes are an extension of the &#8220;entitlement&#8221; philosophy.  Big government is fine as long as somebody else is stuck with the bill.<br />
<a href="http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/07/california-proposition-30-governor.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/07/california-proposition-30-governor.html</a></p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/01/20/being-calpers-means-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry/#comment-6983</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The big hammer on the economy is the fact that California leads all states in total debt weighing in at $617 billion in unfunded liabilities.
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It is more than that, easily.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big hammer on the economy is the fact that California leads all states in total debt weighing in at $617 billion in unfunded liabilities.<br />
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It is more than that, easily.</p>
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		By: Ronald Stein		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Stein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 05:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Government Dependents Outnumber Those With Private Sector Jobs In 11 U.S. States

Those with jobs in the private sector generate the revenue to support those that work in government and those that are dependent on government subsidies.  California is 1 of 11 states where the collective government dependents &quot;takers&quot;, outnumber the private sector ”givers” to the economy. In California, there are 139 &quot;takers&quot; for every 100 private sector workers. Of those 11 states, 4 are major populated states such as California, New York, Illinois, and Ohio.

The takers, outnumbering the givers, obviously control this uneven “retirement” playing field where the takers retire at an earlier age (50 to 55) than the givers (62+).

The big hammer on the economy is the fact that California leads all states in total debt weighing in at $617 billion in unfunded liabilities. Other states are lining up to see where they rank for their unfunded liabilities.

With the huge and growing budget deficits in California and other states, and nationally, the majority of the voting public is quickly shifting over to the takers. Our elected politicians need to keep spending to insure their reelections.  

The challenge to our elected officials will be how to reverse this “entitlement” momentum when reelection votes are controlled by the takers, as the minority private sector givers are shrinking and becoming less and less of a voice in our election process.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government Dependents Outnumber Those With Private Sector Jobs In 11 U.S. States</p>
<p>Those with jobs in the private sector generate the revenue to support those that work in government and those that are dependent on government subsidies.  California is 1 of 11 states where the collective government dependents &#8220;takers&#8221;, outnumber the private sector ”givers” to the economy. In California, there are 139 &#8220;takers&#8221; for every 100 private sector workers. Of those 11 states, 4 are major populated states such as California, New York, Illinois, and Ohio.</p>
<p>The takers, outnumbering the givers, obviously control this uneven “retirement” playing field where the takers retire at an earlier age (50 to 55) than the givers (62+).</p>
<p>The big hammer on the economy is the fact that California leads all states in total debt weighing in at $617 billion in unfunded liabilities. Other states are lining up to see where they rank for their unfunded liabilities.</p>
<p>With the huge and growing budget deficits in California and other states, and nationally, the majority of the voting public is quickly shifting over to the takers. Our elected politicians need to keep spending to insure their reelections.  </p>
<p>The challenge to our elected officials will be how to reverse this “entitlement” momentum when reelection votes are controlled by the takers, as the minority private sector givers are shrinking and becoming less and less of a voice in our election process.</p>
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		By: eatingdogfood		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/01/20/being-calpers-means-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry/#comment-6981</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eatingdogfood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 02:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Democratic Hustler Politicians + Corrupt Greedy Unions = BANKRUPTCY BABY!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democratic Hustler Politicians + Corrupt Greedy Unions = BANKRUPTCY BABY!</p>
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		By: mighty oak		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/01/20/being-calpers-means-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry/#comment-6980</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mighty oak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for keeping a close eye on CALPERS, which I&#039;ve recently learned is as bloated and corrupt as any New Orleans politician.The machinations behind the scenes show that the unions control our state government. Lock stock and barrel.  Think we just got some pension reform?  Think again. All manipulated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for keeping a close eye on CALPERS, which I&#8217;ve recently learned is as bloated and corrupt as any New Orleans politician.The machinations behind the scenes show that the unions control our state government. Lock stock and barrel.  Think we just got some pension reform?  Think again. All manipulated.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/01/20/being-calpers-means-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry/#comment-6979</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This article hit on every cylinder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article hit on every cylinder.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/01/20/being-calpers-means-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry/#comment-6978</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After reading that BS I would like to blow up the calTURDS building is Sactown.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading that BS I would like to blow up the calTURDS building is Sactown.</p>
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		By: @SoquelCreek		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/01/20/being-calpers-means-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry/#comment-6977</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@SoquelCreek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a little fun-filled fiction courtesy of CalPERS.

The CalPERS Brochure Selling California SB400
http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-calpers-brochure-selling-california.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a little fun-filled fiction courtesy of CalPERS.</p>
<p>The CalPERS Brochure Selling California SB400<br />
<a href="http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-calpers-brochure-selling-california.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-calpers-brochure-selling-california.html</a></p>
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