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		By: JLSeagull		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/02/03/california-a-model-for-other-states/#comment-7678</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Advice to all states considering following California&#039;s &quot;model&quot; - DON&#039;T.

Republican governed states are performing circles around Democrat governed states:  http://washingtonexaminer.com/conn-carroll-americas-governing-party/article/2520285 

From Conn Carroll, Senior Editorial Writer for the Washington Examiner:

&quot;Republicans currently occupy the governor&#039;s mansions in 30 states, representing 58 percent of the U.S. population. They control both the governorship and legislature in 25 states, representing 52 percent of all Americans. Democrats enjoy such control of only 14 states, representing just 33 percent of the country.

&quot;And not only are Republicans governing more than half the country, they are objectively doing a much better job at it than Democrats are. According to the latest data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average unemployment rate in the 25 states controlled completely by Republicans is just 7.2 percent, more than half a point lower than the national 7.9 percent unemployment rate. In the 14 states with full Democratic control, unemployment is 8.4 percent, a full half-point higher than the national average.

&quot;The Republican state economies are growing faster too. According to the latest data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis, the real gross domestic product of the 25 Republican-controlled states has grown almost .25 points faster since 2008 than the real GDP of the 14 Democratic-controlled ones. And they aren&#039;t doing it by going into to debt. The Republican-controlled states on average have a Standard &#038; Poor&#039;s credit rating a full grade higher (AA) than their Democratic counterparts (AA-).&quot;

A brief summary is that when it comes to governing states, Democrats can&#039;t find their way out of a soggy paper bag.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advice to all states considering following California&#8217;s &#8220;model&#8221; &#8211; DON&#8217;T.</p>
<p>Republican governed states are performing circles around Democrat governed states:  <a href="http://washingtonexaminer.com/conn-carroll-americas-governing-party/article/2520285" rel="nofollow ugc">http://washingtonexaminer.com/conn-carroll-americas-governing-party/article/2520285</a> </p>
<p>From Conn Carroll, Senior Editorial Writer for the Washington Examiner:</p>
<p>&#8220;Republicans currently occupy the governor&#8217;s mansions in 30 states, representing 58 percent of the U.S. population. They control both the governorship and legislature in 25 states, representing 52 percent of all Americans. Democrats enjoy such control of only 14 states, representing just 33 percent of the country.</p>
<p>&#8220;And not only are Republicans governing more than half the country, they are objectively doing a much better job at it than Democrats are. According to the latest data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average unemployment rate in the 25 states controlled completely by Republicans is just 7.2 percent, more than half a point lower than the national 7.9 percent unemployment rate. In the 14 states with full Democratic control, unemployment is 8.4 percent, a full half-point higher than the national average.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Republican state economies are growing faster too. According to the latest data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis, the real gross domestic product of the 25 Republican-controlled states has grown almost .25 points faster since 2008 than the real GDP of the 14 Democratic-controlled ones. And they aren&#8217;t doing it by going into to debt. The Republican-controlled states on average have a Standard &amp; Poor&#8217;s credit rating a full grade higher (AA) than their Democratic counterparts (AA-).&#8221;</p>
<p>A brief summary is that when it comes to governing states, Democrats can&#8217;t find their way out of a soggy paper bag.</p>
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		By: @SoquelCreek		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/02/03/california-a-model-for-other-states/#comment-7677</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Douglas, the facts are what they are.

Regarding CTA &#038; SEIU, yes, businesses also give campaign money.  Surprisingly, business money tends to go to BOTH parties.  Over 90% of CTA &#038; SEIU money goes to one party--the Democrats.  Oh, and don&#039;t forget, CTA &#038; SEIU are only the two biggest spenders among the many public-sector unions.  Look at the others that gave to Proposition 30.
http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/11/wecandobetter.html

There was a similar pattern for 2010&#039;s Proposition 27, which also included millions from out-of-state, big-money Progressives.  Thankfully, in 2010, voters and even the media saw the corruption in Proposition 27.
http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2010/09/proposition-27-revealed.html

You might find one of my other posts interesting.  It shows WHY union money matters so much in California politics.  It has everything to do with concentrating the spending.

Do Public-Employee Unions Have Major Influence in California Politics?
http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2011/02/do-public-employee-unions-have-major.html

Yep, there are other states where state and local sales tax exceed California&#039;s.  But nowhere else do you have the nation&#039;s HIGHEST state sales tax and the nation&#039;s 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th highest marginal income tax rate (AND one of the nation&#039;s highest gasoline taxes).  The facts are the facts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas, the facts are what they are.</p>
<p>Regarding CTA &amp; SEIU, yes, businesses also give campaign money.  Surprisingly, business money tends to go to BOTH parties.  Over 90% of CTA &amp; SEIU money goes to one party&#8211;the Democrats.  Oh, and don&#8217;t forget, CTA &amp; SEIU are only the two biggest spenders among the many public-sector unions.  Look at the others that gave to Proposition 30.<br />
<a href="http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/11/wecandobetter.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/11/wecandobetter.html</a></p>
<p>There was a similar pattern for 2010&#8217;s Proposition 27, which also included millions from out-of-state, big-money Progressives.  Thankfully, in 2010, voters and even the media saw the corruption in Proposition 27.<br />
<a href="http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2010/09/proposition-27-revealed.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2010/09/proposition-27-revealed.html</a></p>
<p>You might find one of my other posts interesting.  It shows WHY union money matters so much in California politics.  It has everything to do with concentrating the spending.</p>
<p>Do Public-Employee Unions Have Major Influence in California Politics?<br />
<a href="http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2011/02/do-public-employee-unions-have-major.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2011/02/do-public-employee-unions-have-major.html</a></p>
<p>Yep, there are other states where state and local sales tax exceed California&#8217;s.  But nowhere else do you have the nation&#8217;s HIGHEST state sales tax and the nation&#8217;s 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th highest marginal income tax rate (AND one of the nation&#8217;s highest gasoline taxes).  The facts are the facts.</p>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/02/03/california-a-model-for-other-states/#comment-7676</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 00:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SoquelCreek,

Aren&#039;t you gilding the lily here (again)?  Still?

We get it.  California is bad. But perhaps you would be more credible if you were just a bit less strident with your charts and graphs.

CTA and SEIU are the two largest &quot;individual&quot; campaign spenders in California politics. HOWEVER, business interests combined spending is more than ten times the spending by organized labor.
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&quot;California has 12% of the nation&#039;s population but 33% of the nation&#039;s Temporary Aid to Needy Family (TANF) welfare recipients. Why is that?&quot;

California has twelve percent of the nation&#039;s population AND about twelve percent of the nation&#039;s welfare SPENDING, according to the US Census Bureau. It is true that we have more TANF recipients, but TANF is a very small part (less than two billion) of California&#039;s total welfare spending (over fifty billion, not counting federal matching funds.)

California welfare spending per capita is higher than average, but not 20% higher, or whatever your chart is implying.  At least eight other states have higher per capita welfare costs than California.
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Sales tax: WOW!! that&#039;s an impressive chart!  But according to the Tax Foundation, California ranks TWELFTH in combined state and local tax rates ( http://taxfoundation.org/article/ranking-state-and-local-sales-taxes-1 ) 

For sales tax per capita, California is number 15.
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Unemployment is too high in California. Taxes are too high.  Regulations are onerous. Why do you feel the need to exaggerate?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SoquelCreek,</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t you gilding the lily here (again)?  Still?</p>
<p>We get it.  California is bad. But perhaps you would be more credible if you were just a bit less strident with your charts and graphs.</p>
<p>CTA and SEIU are the two largest &#8220;individual&#8221; campaign spenders in California politics. HOWEVER, business interests combined spending is more than ten times the spending by organized labor.<br />
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&#8220;California has 12% of the nation&#8217;s population but 33% of the nation&#8217;s Temporary Aid to Needy Family (TANF) welfare recipients. Why is that?&#8221;</p>
<p>California has twelve percent of the nation&#8217;s population AND about twelve percent of the nation&#8217;s welfare SPENDING, according to the US Census Bureau. It is true that we have more TANF recipients, but TANF is a very small part (less than two billion) of California&#8217;s total welfare spending (over fifty billion, not counting federal matching funds.)</p>
<p>California welfare spending per capita is higher than average, but not 20% higher, or whatever your chart is implying.  At least eight other states have higher per capita welfare costs than California.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Sales tax: WOW!! that&#8217;s an impressive chart!  But according to the Tax Foundation, California ranks TWELFTH in combined state and local tax rates ( <a href="http://taxfoundation.org/article/ranking-state-and-local-sales-taxes-1" rel="nofollow ugc">http://taxfoundation.org/article/ranking-state-and-local-sales-taxes-1</a> ) </p>
<p>For sales tax per capita, California is number 15.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Unemployment is too high in California. Taxes are too high.  Regulations are onerous. Why do you feel the need to exaggerate?</p>
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		By: Hondo		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/02/03/california-a-model-for-other-states/#comment-7675</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 19:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So then why does Kalifornia have the highest unemployment rate in the country ( but for a couple small states).  No place on earth is blessed with more ways to grow the economy and grow jobs.  Kali should have an unemployment rate below 7% at least.  
And they have a combined public pension debt of nearly a trillion which will mean in not so many years, the state will have to cut all services to pay the salaries and the pensions of the public unions.  
Kalifornia is a model that needs to be avoided.
Hondo...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then why does Kalifornia have the highest unemployment rate in the country ( but for a couple small states).  No place on earth is blessed with more ways to grow the economy and grow jobs.  Kali should have an unemployment rate below 7% at least.<br />
And they have a combined public pension debt of nearly a trillion which will mean in not so many years, the state will have to cut all services to pay the salaries and the pensions of the public unions.<br />
Kalifornia is a model that needs to be avoided.<br />
Hondo&#8230;</p>
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		By: @SoquelCreek		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/02/03/california-a-model-for-other-states/#comment-7674</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Haven&#039;t you heard?  California is &quot;the oasis of Democratic politics.&quot;  See what this means to everyday Californians who&#039;ve lived under decades of Democrat Party control.
http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/10/california-oasis-of-democrat-politics.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t you heard?  California is &#8220;the oasis of Democratic politics.&#8221;  See what this means to everyday Californians who&#8217;ve lived under decades of Democrat Party control.<br />
<a href="http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/10/california-oasis-of-democrat-politics.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/10/california-oasis-of-democrat-politics.html</a></p>
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