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		By: fees &#124; Local National News		</title>
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		By: Ted Steele, The Decider		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/02/06/politicians-media-distort-economic-facts/#comment-7812</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, The Decider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BobA---  I sense alot of anger in you. What do you have to be so angry about? Has life passed you by? Not earn enough? Family issues? Personality disorder?-- something. Your constant negative view must be informed by something other that current events because so many of us see the glass as half full. Have you considered talking to someone?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BobA&#8212;  I sense alot of anger in you. What do you have to be so angry about? Has life passed you by? Not earn enough? Family issues? Personality disorder?&#8211; something. Your constant negative view must be informed by something other that current events because so many of us see the glass as half full. Have you considered talking to someone?</p>
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		By: BobA		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/02/06/politicians-media-distort-economic-facts/#comment-7811</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SeeSaw:

You&#039;re entitled to your opinion and I&#039;m entitled to ignore it. If a moron like Teddy is your benchmark for intelligence then that says more about you and your low standards for intelligence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SeeSaw:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re entitled to your opinion and I&#8217;m entitled to ignore it. If a moron like Teddy is your benchmark for intelligence then that says more about you and your low standards for intelligence.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/02/06/politicians-media-distort-economic-facts/#comment-7810</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice clip. Was that an ad for High Speed Rail?
 
“We used to build things!~
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We don&#039;t have High Speed Rail, we have Slow Speed FAIL. 

Go home Dougie, this is the playground for the Big Dogs, not the Lil Chihuahuas like you and Teddy!!! ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice clip. Was that an ad for High Speed Rail?</p>
<p>“We used to build things!~<br />
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<p>We don&#8217;t have High Speed Rail, we have Slow Speed FAIL. </p>
<p>Go home Dougie, this is the playground for the Big Dogs, not the Lil Chihuahuas like you and Teddy!!! 😉</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/02/06/politicians-media-distort-economic-facts/#comment-7809</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Douglas, &quot;eyeamok says:

 February 8, 2013 at 4:52 am

There has been zero or negative growth for longer than 23 years, There is NOT A SINGLE quarter since 1981 that has any Real Econoimc Growth if you SUBTRACT Government Deficit Spending. 0 got it, 0 got it. This is absolute and CANNOT BE REFUTED.&quot;   

   You need to come out of your RAGWUS box and look around.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas, &#8220;eyeamok says:</p>
<p> February 8, 2013 at 4:52 am</p>
<p>There has been zero or negative growth for longer than 23 years, There is NOT A SINGLE quarter since 1981 that has any Real Econoimc Growth if you SUBTRACT Government Deficit Spending. 0 got it, 0 got it. This is absolute and CANNOT BE REFUTED.&#8221;   </p>
<p>   You need to come out of your RAGWUS box and look around.  🙂</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/02/06/politicians-media-distort-economic-facts/#comment-7808</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rex Ted is one of the priests that taught Jerry Brown, and worked him good!!  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex Ted is one of the priests that taught Jerry Brown, and worked him good!!  🙂</p>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/02/06/politicians-media-distort-economic-facts/#comment-7807</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Somebody may be WAORSE off, but we two cowns are doing fine.

Nice clip.  Was that an ad for High Speed Rail?

&quot;We used to build things!~&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody may be WAORSE off, but we two cowns are doing fine.</p>
<p>Nice clip.  Was that an ad for High Speed Rail?</p>
<p>&#8220;We used to build things!~&#8221;</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW Teddy and Dougie- this one is for you two cowns who think we are doing as good today;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW Teddy and Dougie- this one is for you two cowns who think we are doing as good today;</p>
<p><iframe class="youtube-player" width="900" height="507" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/16K6m3Ua2nw?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent" allowfullscreen="true" style="border:0;" sandbox="allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox"></iframe></p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bottom line, we are way better off now than we were four years ago.
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Bottom line we are FAR WAORSE off than we were 6 years ago ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line, we are way better off now than we were four years ago.<br />
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Bottom line we are FAR WAORSE off than we were 6 years ago 😉</p>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Teddy,

You&#039;re just having too too much fun.

Personally, I would have said that this article is a prime example of.....&quot;media&quot; distorting economic facts.

Nothing like ignoring the difference between monthly employment numbers and seasonally adjusted numbers.

According to the link in the article, 1.67 million jobs were created in 2012. Perhaps more would be better, but that is way better than losing a million jobs a year as we have in the past.

According to the article:  &quot;in 2007 more than 146 million Americans were employed.  Today, that number has dropped to 141.6 million&quot;

OR: As the glass half full people say, from 2007 to 2010, employment fell by 6.98 million, and since 2010, we have recovered 3.4 million of those jobs.

Both those stats came from the SAME BLS TABLES (thanks for the link, Katy) but the first statement implies we are in a death spiral.  The second statement looks like we were in a major (as in world-wide) recession and are now slowly recovering.  You be the judge.
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“Gas prices have almost doubled.&quot;

In June, 2008, gas prices were over $4 a gallon.  They dropped to less than $2 when the bottom dropped out of the stock market.  Now they are returning to near $4 again. It looks like &quot;gas prices have doubled&quot; is.....media distorting facts.
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&quot;California&#039;s poverty rate is 23.5%&quot;

The &quot;official&quot; poverty rate is 16.3% (three year average)  23.5% is the Supplemental Poverty Measure meant to measure the effects of regional living costs and the availability of government programs:
&quot;As a whole, the safety net is holding many people up, while California is struggling more because it&#039;s relatively harder there to qualify for food stamps and other benefits.&quot;... University of Wisconsin-Madison economist Timothy Smeeding

Looks like there is distortion one both sides of this issue.  Bottom line, we are way better off now than we were four years ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re just having too too much fun.</p>
<p>Personally, I would have said that this article is a prime example of&#8230;..&#8221;media&#8221; distorting economic facts.</p>
<p>Nothing like ignoring the difference between monthly employment numbers and seasonally adjusted numbers.</p>
<p>According to the link in the article, 1.67 million jobs were created in 2012. Perhaps more would be better, but that is way better than losing a million jobs a year as we have in the past.</p>
<p>According to the article:  &#8220;in 2007 more than 146 million Americans were employed.  Today, that number has dropped to 141.6 million&#8221;</p>
<p>OR: As the glass half full people say, from 2007 to 2010, employment fell by 6.98 million, and since 2010, we have recovered 3.4 million of those jobs.</p>
<p>Both those stats came from the SAME BLS TABLES (thanks for the link, Katy) but the first statement implies we are in a death spiral.  The second statement looks like we were in a major (as in world-wide) recession and are now slowly recovering.  You be the judge.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
“Gas prices have almost doubled.&#8221;</p>
<p>In June, 2008, gas prices were over $4 a gallon.  They dropped to less than $2 when the bottom dropped out of the stock market.  Now they are returning to near $4 again. It looks like &#8220;gas prices have doubled&#8221; is&#8230;..media distorting facts.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;California&#8217;s poverty rate is 23.5%&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;official&#8221; poverty rate is 16.3% (three year average)  23.5% is the Supplemental Poverty Measure meant to measure the effects of regional living costs and the availability of government programs:<br />
&#8220;As a whole, the safety net is holding many people up, while California is struggling more because it&#8217;s relatively harder there to qualify for food stamps and other benefits.&#8221;&#8230; University of Wisconsin-Madison economist Timothy Smeeding</p>
<p>Looks like there is distortion one both sides of this issue.  Bottom line, we are way better off now than we were four years ago.</p>
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