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		By: Douglas		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/09/obamacare-could-provide-california-big-safety-net/#comment-9134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not everyone agrees:

2nd class citizen posted a link which told a conservatives view of the Canadian health care system. 

If you go through the comments on that link, you will find that many Canadians are very happy with the system. 

The same is true of British healthcare and that of other countries. It&#039;s not all bad news. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everyone agrees:</p>
<p>2nd class citizen posted a link which told a conservatives view of the Canadian health care system. </p>
<p>If you go through the comments on that link, you will find that many Canadians are very happy with the system. </p>
<p>The same is true of British healthcare and that of other countries. It&#8217;s not all bad news. </p>
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		By: BobA		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/09/obamacare-could-provide-california-big-safety-net/#comment-9133</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BobA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NTHEOC:

Socialism is just another name for communism. What you are suggesting is that America forgo free market capitalism for communism. When and where has communism ever worked? All you&#039;ll wind up with is a country full of poor and deprived people who will exit the country post haste if allowed to leave. 

The Scandinavian countries can afford socialism because they are sparsely populated countries. You may praise their socialist system but like all socialist countries, there&#039;s still a waiting list for certain medical procedures that those who can afford it come here to get.

Perhaps you should peruse the British press to read about how &quot;wonderful&quot;  their socialized health care system. You would be shocked and disgusted.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people&#039;s money. Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system the would has known. A fact that you seem to have chosen to ignore.

Our health care system would work a lot better if the government, lawyers and corporate lobbyists kept their fat beaks out of it. Health insurance would also be a lot cheaper if it were allowed to be sold across state lines. 

It would also be better and cheaper if the government didn&#039;t collude with lawyers, insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies to fix prices via laws &#038; regulations. 

I must admit though that asking for the politicians to take a hands off approach is asking for the impossible. When it comes to politicians, it&#039;s not a matter of what&#039;s good for the country: it&#039;s a matter of what&#039;s good for their bank accounts and getting them reelected. 

Our health system is what it is because the health care industry and insurance company lobbyists literally write the legislation that affects them. Their bottom line is profit; period. 

Sorry if I went of on a tangent but I had to go there to round out my argument.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NTHEOC:</p>
<p>Socialism is just another name for communism. What you are suggesting is that America forgo free market capitalism for communism. When and where has communism ever worked? All you&#8217;ll wind up with is a country full of poor and deprived people who will exit the country post haste if allowed to leave. </p>
<p>The Scandinavian countries can afford socialism because they are sparsely populated countries. You may praise their socialist system but like all socialist countries, there&#8217;s still a waiting list for certain medical procedures that those who can afford it come here to get.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should peruse the British press to read about how &#8220;wonderful&#8221;  their socialized health care system. You would be shocked and disgusted.</p>
<p>The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people&#8217;s money. Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system the would has known. A fact that you seem to have chosen to ignore.</p>
<p>Our health care system would work a lot better if the government, lawyers and corporate lobbyists kept their fat beaks out of it. Health insurance would also be a lot cheaper if it were allowed to be sold across state lines. </p>
<p>It would also be better and cheaper if the government didn&#8217;t collude with lawyers, insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies to fix prices via laws &amp; regulations. </p>
<p>I must admit though that asking for the politicians to take a hands off approach is asking for the impossible. When it comes to politicians, it&#8217;s not a matter of what&#8217;s good for the country: it&#8217;s a matter of what&#8217;s good for their bank accounts and getting them reelected. </p>
<p>Our health system is what it is because the health care industry and insurance company lobbyists literally write the legislation that affects them. Their bottom line is profit; period. </p>
<p>Sorry if I went of on a tangent but I had to go there to round out my argument.</p>
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		By: Katy Grimes		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/09/obamacare-could-provide-california-big-safety-net/#comment-9132</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katy Grimes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NTHEOC, you can dress it up and claim socialism is about the working class, but there is no denying that it is really about redistributing wealth and other people&#039;s money.

Katy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NTHEOC, you can dress it up and claim socialism is about the working class, but there is no denying that it is really about redistributing wealth and other people&#8217;s money.</p>
<p>Katy</p>
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		By: NTHEOC		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/09/obamacare-could-provide-california-big-safety-net/#comment-9131</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NTHEOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[us citizen says:  
NTHEOC..what you want is socialism in medical care. Please tell me what the last country was, that socialism worked out for them. 
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There are no countries practicing real socialism. Socialism is government by the working class which promotes the interests of society over those of capital. So, how is our capitalist healthcare system working out for us? Good if you can afford health inurance or have a job that provides it.I am very fortunate to have good insurance but I still know they are corporate profit driven corps that put your health 2nd to feeding their wallets!!Countries like Swedan, Denmark, Norway, and the Netherlands all have better healthcare systems than us!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>us citizen says:<br />
NTHEOC..what you want is socialism in medical care. Please tell me what the last country was, that socialism worked out for them.<br />
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There are no countries practicing real socialism. Socialism is government by the working class which promotes the interests of society over those of capital. So, how is our capitalist healthcare system working out for us? Good if you can afford health inurance or have a job that provides it.I am very fortunate to have good insurance but I still know they are corporate profit driven corps that put your health 2nd to feeding their wallets!!Countries like Swedan, Denmark, Norway, and the Netherlands all have better healthcare systems than us!!</p>
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		By: BobA		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/09/obamacare-could-provide-california-big-safety-net/#comment-9130</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BobA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[2nd class citizen says:

That&#039;s the general idea. And if you vote democrat, you can vote yourself a pay raise every 2 years. After all, wasn&#039;t it Stretch Pelosi who said an unemployment check is economic stimulus? By her logic a 100% unemployment rate would lead to an economic miracle. 

Of course, we&#039;ll have to impose a 100% tax rate on the rich to pay for it all. Of course, they&#039;ll eventually become poor themselves but who cares? That&#039;s their problem.

Why get off you ass and and work for a living when you can vote yourself other people&#039;s money?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2nd class citizen says:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the general idea. And if you vote democrat, you can vote yourself a pay raise every 2 years. After all, wasn&#8217;t it Stretch Pelosi who said an unemployment check is economic stimulus? By her logic a 100% unemployment rate would lead to an economic miracle. </p>
<p>Of course, we&#8217;ll have to impose a 100% tax rate on the rich to pay for it all. Of course, they&#8217;ll eventually become poor themselves but who cares? That&#8217;s their problem.</p>
<p>Why get off you ass and and work for a living when you can vote yourself other people&#8217;s money?</p>
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		By: doug		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/09/obamacare-could-provide-california-big-safety-net/#comment-9129</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[doug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[gee, 2nd class, you&#039;d also be eligible for the free cell phones too!
better off unemployed or illegal. 

that MediCal program will kill businesses again. 

i could see my current employer leaving the state for that issue.

and the scarcity of doctors will increase now too for sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gee, 2nd class, you&#8217;d also be eligible for the free cell phones too!<br />
better off unemployed or illegal. </p>
<p>that MediCal program will kill businesses again. </p>
<p>i could see my current employer leaving the state for that issue.</p>
<p>and the scarcity of doctors will increase now too for sure.</p>
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		By: 2nd class citizen		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/09/obamacare-could-provide-california-big-safety-net/#comment-9128</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[2nd class citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 03:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[so this is sounding pretty good, if I get laid off which is a good probability the way the local economy is... I will qualify for free healthcare with no asset check, get unemployment, my kids will get college funded because I don&#039;t make money. seems I might be better off unemployed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so this is sounding pretty good, if I get laid off which is a good probability the way the local economy is&#8230; I will qualify for free healthcare with no asset check, get unemployment, my kids will get college funded because I don&#8217;t make money. seems I might be better off unemployed.</p>
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		By: 2nd class citizen		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/09/obamacare-could-provide-california-big-safety-net/#comment-9127</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[2nd class citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 03:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2990650/posts
but did you know this about canada&#039;s system?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2990650/posts" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2990650/posts</a><br />
but did you know this about canada&#8217;s system?</p>
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		By: Mike H		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/09/obamacare-could-provide-california-big-safety-net/#comment-9126</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 03:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RT is correct, the Medi-Cal Program is an ineffective mess that is provided at the County level. But noby cares how badly it&#039;s ran. So more $$$ for the State to waste.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RT is correct, the Medi-Cal Program is an ineffective mess that is provided at the County level. But noby cares how badly it&#8217;s ran. So more $$$ for the State to waste.</p>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/09/obamacare-could-provide-california-big-safety-net/#comment-9125</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 01:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not everyone agrees:

&quot;Debunking Canadian health care myths&quot;

http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_12523427]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everyone agrees:</p>
<p>&#8220;Debunking Canadian health care myths&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_12523427" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_12523427</a></p>
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