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		By: CalWatchdog		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/14/another-sacramento-business-bites-the-dust/#comment-9362&quot;&gt;stevefromsacto&lt;/a&gt;.

StevefromSacto: The exodus of conservatives from Calif. has been going on since about 1990. Many earlier went to the Mountain States. Now, to Texas. The main driving force is jobs. Second, cheaper housing (about 1/3 as much in Texas). Third, lower taxes. Middle-class people just can&#039;t afford to live here anymore. I know I&#039;m struggling badly. So are my middle-class friends.

-- John Seiler]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/14/another-sacramento-business-bites-the-dust/#comment-9362">stevefromsacto</a>.</p>
<p>StevefromSacto: The exodus of conservatives from Calif. has been going on since about 1990. Many earlier went to the Mountain States. Now, to Texas. The main driving force is jobs. Second, cheaper housing (about 1/3 as much in Texas). Third, lower taxes. Middle-class people just can&#8217;t afford to live here anymore. I know I&#8217;m struggling badly. So are my middle-class friends.</p>
<p>&#8212; John Seiler</p>
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		By: stevefromsacto		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s another factual report for all you California-hating Texas lovers to ponder:

Conservative Californians: Hope Ya Brought Yer Own Water &#038; Book-Learnin&#039;

by: Katherine Haenschen, Burnt Orange Report (Texas)
Thu Mar 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM CDT

The Texas Tribune released an interesting nugget from their polling results -- it appears that the majority of Californians who flee the Golden State for the Lone Star are actually conservatives, rather than likely Democratic voters who can help turn the state blue.

As Joshua Blank of the Texas Tribune writes of these transplants:

The plurality of those [California] migrants have moved to Texas, as many as 70,000 in 2011 and 60,000 in 2012. Given this influx of new residents, we are fortunate to have at times asked our respondents whether they have moved to Texas from California, and though the actual number of these people is but a small subsample of our surveys, we have enough respondents to make two broad conclusions. First, these newcomers, on average, tend to be conservative. Pooling data from the May 2012 and February 2013 UT/Tribune surveys, we found that 57 percent of these California transplants consider themselves to be conservative, while only 27 percent consider themselves to be liberal (a fair guess as to the margin of error is somewhere around +/- 7 percentage points). Second, these new Texans aren&#039;t rushing to find homes in the state&#039;s urban centers: 55 percent are heading to the suburbs, the rest evenly dividing themselves between rural and urban locations.

Well then.

Welcome, Californians. Given your conservative tilt, I can only assume y&#039;all have moved here to avoid the scourge of a state income tax that funds government services, public education, and basic civilization. Surely all y&#039;all are aware that much of California&#039;s dysfunction was due to Republicans&#039; abuse of the 2/3rds rule in the Legislature and endless efforts to obstruct functioning government?

Well if Republicans obstructing functional government is what you&#039;re into, you&#039;ve come to the right state!

Texas ranks 49th in per-student spending and 38th in teacher pay. We have the highest rate of uninsured residents of all time. Don&#039;t care about those touchy-feely issues? Well, you probably like water and electricity. We&#039;re facing a crisis in water that transplants like y&#039;all are only exacerbating. Our power grid is unstable, so prepare for rolling blackouts.

So welcome to Texas, conservative Californians. Those of us who care about health and human services, education, sustainability, and the environment are working pretty hard to turn things around, so pretty soon you might be facing a voter rebellion that results in the kind of progressive government that might send you packing again in search of redder pastures.

But hey, I hear Alabama&#039;s really nice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another factual report for all you California-hating Texas lovers to ponder:</p>
<p>Conservative Californians: Hope Ya Brought Yer Own Water &amp; Book-Learnin&#8217;</p>
<p>by: Katherine Haenschen, Burnt Orange Report (Texas)<br />
Thu Mar 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM CDT</p>
<p>The Texas Tribune released an interesting nugget from their polling results &#8212; it appears that the majority of Californians who flee the Golden State for the Lone Star are actually conservatives, rather than likely Democratic voters who can help turn the state blue.</p>
<p>As Joshua Blank of the Texas Tribune writes of these transplants:</p>
<p>The plurality of those [California] migrants have moved to Texas, as many as 70,000 in 2011 and 60,000 in 2012. Given this influx of new residents, we are fortunate to have at times asked our respondents whether they have moved to Texas from California, and though the actual number of these people is but a small subsample of our surveys, we have enough respondents to make two broad conclusions. First, these newcomers, on average, tend to be conservative. Pooling data from the May 2012 and February 2013 UT/Tribune surveys, we found that 57 percent of these California transplants consider themselves to be conservative, while only 27 percent consider themselves to be liberal (a fair guess as to the margin of error is somewhere around +/- 7 percentage points). Second, these new Texans aren&#8217;t rushing to find homes in the state&#8217;s urban centers: 55 percent are heading to the suburbs, the rest evenly dividing themselves between rural and urban locations.</p>
<p>Well then.</p>
<p>Welcome, Californians. Given your conservative tilt, I can only assume y&#8217;all have moved here to avoid the scourge of a state income tax that funds government services, public education, and basic civilization. Surely all y&#8217;all are aware that much of California&#8217;s dysfunction was due to Republicans&#8217; abuse of the 2/3rds rule in the Legislature and endless efforts to obstruct functioning government?</p>
<p>Well if Republicans obstructing functional government is what you&#8217;re into, you&#8217;ve come to the right state!</p>
<p>Texas ranks 49th in per-student spending and 38th in teacher pay. We have the highest rate of uninsured residents of all time. Don&#8217;t care about those touchy-feely issues? Well, you probably like water and electricity. We&#8217;re facing a crisis in water that transplants like y&#8217;all are only exacerbating. Our power grid is unstable, so prepare for rolling blackouts.</p>
<p>So welcome to Texas, conservative Californians. Those of us who care about health and human services, education, sustainability, and the environment are working pretty hard to turn things around, so pretty soon you might be facing a voter rebellion that results in the kind of progressive government that might send you packing again in search of redder pastures.</p>
<p>But hey, I hear Alabama&#8217;s really nice.</p>
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		By: PJ		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/14/another-sacramento-business-bites-the-dust/#comment-9361</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Verizon is moving a big HQ in Orange County to Georgia and Ohio.

Too expensive to do business here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verizon is moving a big HQ in Orange County to Georgia and Ohio.</p>
<p>Too expensive to do business here.</p>
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		By: CalWatchdog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/14/another-sacramento-business-bites-the-dust/#comment-9360</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Skipping dog - the reason a survey was done with small businesses is because most businesses in the US are small businesses. In California, small businesses account for 97% of all businesses. They have their finger on the pulse, and because they are so small, can make moves quickly and nimbly, unlike larger businesses like Coca-Cola. Coke has to streamline, instead of just making a few cuts when they see the market changing. It&#039;s like turning an aircraft carrier around.

And &quot;streamlining&quot; is code for cutting costs, not efficiency measures.

Katy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skipping dog &#8211; the reason a survey was done with small businesses is because most businesses in the US are small businesses. In California, small businesses account for 97% of all businesses. They have their finger on the pulse, and because they are so small, can make moves quickly and nimbly, unlike larger businesses like Coca-Cola. Coke has to streamline, instead of just making a few cuts when they see the market changing. It&#8217;s like turning an aircraft carrier around.</p>
<p>And &#8220;streamlining&#8221; is code for cutting costs, not efficiency measures.</p>
<p>Katy</p>
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		By: Dyspeptic		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/14/another-sacramento-business-bites-the-dust/#comment-9359</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 04:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;right to work hellhole&quot;

Anyone who thinks the right to work without some union bosses permission is a bad idea is a collectivist idiot and an economic moron. If you want examples of hellholes StinkingDog, just look at closed shop cities like Detroit, Newark, Philadelphia, Chicago etc. They have much higher unemployment rates and higher taxes, crime and political corruption than any right to work state you could name. They also have the most brutal and obnoxious cops too. Can you say Kwame Kilpatrick. I knew you could!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;right to work hellhole&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks the right to work without some union bosses permission is a bad idea is a collectivist idiot and an economic moron. If you want examples of hellholes StinkingDog, just look at closed shop cities like Detroit, Newark, Philadelphia, Chicago etc. They have much higher unemployment rates and higher taxes, crime and political corruption than any right to work state you could name. They also have the most brutal and obnoxious cops too. Can you say Kwame Kilpatrick. I knew you could!</p>
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		By: Tea for thee		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/14/another-sacramento-business-bites-the-dust/#comment-9358</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 03:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sacto Steve where are you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sacto Steve where are you?</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/14/another-sacramento-business-bites-the-dust/#comment-9357</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 01:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why would you compare a business survey predominately comprised of businesses with less than 5 employees with the circumstances of the Sacramento bottling company?  Coke itself said it was &quot;streamlining operations,&quot; which usually means automating production and moving your operations to some low wage, right to work hellhole where people think Coke is great for breakfast.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you compare a business survey predominately comprised of businesses with less than 5 employees with the circumstances of the Sacramento bottling company?  Coke itself said it was &#8220;streamlining operations,&#8221; which usually means automating production and moving your operations to some low wage, right to work hellhole where people think Coke is great for breakfast.</p>
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		By: Hondo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 01:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once again, the far greater number is the businesses that don&#039;t come to Kali.  It&#039;s the investment dollars spent else where.  It is a huge business expense to up and move to another state, or country.  It is a huge dollar expense to up and move a family to another job in another state.  You tear friends and families apart.  Most businesses simply shut their doors, they can&#039;t afford to move.  Families slog through it till the house is foreclosed.  When you have nothing anymore, you have nothing to lose by moving someplace else.
But hi school grads and collage grads have no such chains, no houses, wives, husbands, ect.  We paid for their education and now they are moving to other states to work.  Investment money is even freer.  It will go where it can make an easy (easier) profit.  Where there is less regulation and taxes.  
These 60 jobs are like a cockroaches.  You see only that many, but you know there are hundreds if not thousands you can&#039;t see.
Hondo.......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, the far greater number is the businesses that don&#8217;t come to Kali.  It&#8217;s the investment dollars spent else where.  It is a huge business expense to up and move to another state, or country.  It is a huge dollar expense to up and move a family to another job in another state.  You tear friends and families apart.  Most businesses simply shut their doors, they can&#8217;t afford to move.  Families slog through it till the house is foreclosed.  When you have nothing anymore, you have nothing to lose by moving someplace else.<br />
But hi school grads and collage grads have no such chains, no houses, wives, husbands, ect.  We paid for their education and now they are moving to other states to work.  Investment money is even freer.  It will go where it can make an easy (easier) profit.  Where there is less regulation and taxes.<br />
These 60 jobs are like a cockroaches.  You see only that many, but you know there are hundreds if not thousands you can&#8217;t see.<br />
Hondo&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: us citizen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have another company that I do business with, leaving CA........going to NV
surprise surprise]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have another company that I do business with, leaving CA&#8230;&#8230;..going to NV<br />
surprise surprise</p>
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		By: larry 62		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/14/another-sacramento-business-bites-the-dust/#comment-9354</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But, there are only 60 employees that will be out of work. Not a big deal as far as the morons at the Capitol are concerned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, there are only 60 employees that will be out of work. Not a big deal as far as the morons at the Capitol are concerned.</p>
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