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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m an optometrist and I&#039;ll quit the profession entirely if I&#039;m forced by the government to be a primary care practitioner. I was trained from the neck up and that was about it. We didn&#039;t even work on cadavers. My training of full-body anatomy and physiology ended my first year of undergrad college. Beyond that it was very specific training: anatomy and physiology of the eye, etc... I never took A and P of the entire body systems at the graduate level. 

I chose to become an optometrist. I could&#039;ve gone to med school but I faint at the sight of blood, so I figured optometry was a clean para-medical profession. 

Over the years, however, the American Optometric Association has pushed and pushed and pushed for more and more medical privileges for optometrists to the point of requiring us to be certified to excise lid lesions and do injections! 

This wasn&#039;t the profession I signed up for!!! 

No one should ever have their optometrist be their PCP for diabetes or hypertension. It&#039;s dangerous because we&#039;re not trained to treat those conditions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an optometrist and I&#8217;ll quit the profession entirely if I&#8217;m forced by the government to be a primary care practitioner. I was trained from the neck up and that was about it. We didn&#8217;t even work on cadavers. My training of full-body anatomy and physiology ended my first year of undergrad college. Beyond that it was very specific training: anatomy and physiology of the eye, etc&#8230; I never took A and P of the entire body systems at the graduate level. </p>
<p>I chose to become an optometrist. I could&#8217;ve gone to med school but I faint at the sight of blood, so I figured optometry was a clean para-medical profession. </p>
<p>Over the years, however, the American Optometric Association has pushed and pushed and pushed for more and more medical privileges for optometrists to the point of requiring us to be certified to excise lid lesions and do injections! </p>
<p>This wasn&#8217;t the profession I signed up for!!! </p>
<p>No one should ever have their optometrist be their PCP for diabetes or hypertension. It&#8217;s dangerous because we&#8217;re not trained to treat those conditions.</p>
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		By: StevefromSacto		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boba compares our democratic form of government to the British crown. He accuses President Obama of being a Socialist (or is it a Monarchist).  Shows you all you need to know about his grasp of political history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boba compares our democratic form of government to the British crown. He accuses President Obama of being a Socialist (or is it a Monarchist).  Shows you all you need to know about his grasp of political history.</p>
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		By: StevefromSacto		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/14/obamacare-will-add-7-million-insured-in-ca/#comment-9341</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StevefromSacto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Patient A, who’s uninsured, goes to the hospital with a broken arm and has it treated by a doctor. Their cost? nothing.&quot;

You can&#039;t be serious. This is delusional. One of two things happen with Patient A. 1. The government reimburses the hospital for the cost of treatment; so we taxpayers wind up paying for it.  Or 2. the hospital eats the cost and makes up for it by raising prices for the rest of us. 

And gee, Boba, since you are so concerned about insurance company profits, you ought to be supporting a single-payer health care system like all but three of the world&#039;s industrialized nations.  But I ain&#039;t holding my breath.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Patient A, who’s uninsured, goes to the hospital with a broken arm and has it treated by a doctor. Their cost? nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t be serious. This is delusional. One of two things happen with Patient A. 1. The government reimburses the hospital for the cost of treatment; so we taxpayers wind up paying for it.  Or 2. the hospital eats the cost and makes up for it by raising prices for the rest of us. </p>
<p>And gee, Boba, since you are so concerned about insurance company profits, you ought to be supporting a single-payer health care system like all but three of the world&#8217;s industrialized nations.  But I ain&#8217;t holding my breath.</p>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 17:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BobA:

I&#039;m suggesting Rush and others were being disingenuous. 

Coincidentally, I had a cut in my finger last month that wouldn&#039;t stop bleeding. Emergency room cleaned and x-rayed it and put in two stitches.  Billed my insurance company $3,700.  (Doctor&#039;s fee not included)

Twenty years ago the Heritage foundation and other conservatives were proposing an individual healthcare mandate. So that previously uninsured patient would not piggy back on my insurance.

Now they call it Obama care and socialism and say we cant afford it and all the doctors will quit medicine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BobA:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m suggesting Rush and others were being disingenuous. </p>
<p>Coincidentally, I had a cut in my finger last month that wouldn&#8217;t stop bleeding. Emergency room cleaned and x-rayed it and put in two stitches.  Billed my insurance company $3,700.  (Doctor&#8217;s fee not included)</p>
<p>Twenty years ago the Heritage foundation and other conservatives were proposing an individual healthcare mandate. So that previously uninsured patient would not piggy back on my insurance.</p>
<p>Now they call it Obama care and socialism and say we cant afford it and all the doctors will quit medicine.</p>
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		By: Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 15:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John-- Happy to help you learn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preconscious

&quot;LSD saturated hippies now run everything during flashbacks&quot;? ---John, you live in a strange world. I know you&#039;re a bit prone to hyperbole (which is fun)  but this one seems a little over the top even for you.

Hey--RE your status as Con Law scholar---Abraham Lincoln was a fine self taught lawyer. I knew Abraham Lincoln, John, you&#039;re no Abraham Lincoln.

Ted]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John&#8211; Happy to help you learn.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preconscious" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preconscious</a></p>
<p>&#8220;LSD saturated hippies now run everything during flashbacks&#8221;? &#8212;John, you live in a strange world. I know you&#8217;re a bit prone to hyperbole (which is fun)  but this one seems a little over the top even for you.</p>
<p>Hey&#8211;RE your status as Con Law scholar&#8212;Abraham Lincoln was a fine self taught lawyer. I knew Abraham Lincoln, John, you&#8217;re no Abraham Lincoln.</p>
<p>Ted</p>
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		By: BobA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BobA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 15:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Douglas:

&quot;Who was treating all these people before? And who was paying for it?&quot; Are you suggesting that you don&#039;t know? 

Here&#039;s a clue: Patient A, who&#039;s uninsured, goes to the hospital with a broken arm and has it treated by a doctor. Their cost? nothing. Patient B, who has health insurance, goes to the hospital with a serious gash on their arm that requires 20 stitches. There cost? $5000 dollars. The point here is that hospitals charge insured patients a lot more than uninsured patients because they can bill the insured person&#039;s insurance company to make up the difference. It&#039;s a simple analogy but it&#039;s pretty much the way the system works.

The insurance company invariably pays without question because they can always raise the insured person&#039;s premium to recoup their costs. The way the laws are written, the insurance companies are all but guaranteed a profit. Plus it is the law that hospitals have to provide emergency treatment to all comers.

But don&#039;t believe me. A little research of your own will confirm what I am saying. The more you research, the more shocking and angry you will get at how our health care system works. Moreover, you will be disgusts at why it works that way. 

Suffice it to say, follow the money and see who&#039;s hands it ends up in. You&#039;ll like politicians, lobbyists and overpaid CEOs even less.

BTW: The more illegals we allow in the country the higher health care costs will go.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas:</p>
<p>&#8220;Who was treating all these people before? And who was paying for it?&#8221; Are you suggesting that you don&#8217;t know? </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a clue: Patient A, who&#8217;s uninsured, goes to the hospital with a broken arm and has it treated by a doctor. Their cost? nothing. Patient B, who has health insurance, goes to the hospital with a serious gash on their arm that requires 20 stitches. There cost? $5000 dollars. The point here is that hospitals charge insured patients a lot more than uninsured patients because they can bill the insured person&#8217;s insurance company to make up the difference. It&#8217;s a simple analogy but it&#8217;s pretty much the way the system works.</p>
<p>The insurance company invariably pays without question because they can always raise the insured person&#8217;s premium to recoup their costs. The way the laws are written, the insurance companies are all but guaranteed a profit. Plus it is the law that hospitals have to provide emergency treatment to all comers.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t believe me. A little research of your own will confirm what I am saying. The more you research, the more shocking and angry you will get at how our health care system works. Moreover, you will be disgusts at why it works that way. </p>
<p>Suffice it to say, follow the money and see who&#8217;s hands it ends up in. You&#8217;ll like politicians, lobbyists and overpaid CEOs even less.</p>
<p>BTW: The more illegals we allow in the country the higher health care costs will go.</p>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 12:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back to the Affordable Care Act:

Rush Limbaugh, among many others, kept repeating that it was not NEEDED because there was no such thing as seven million uninsured. ANYONE could walk into an emergency room and be treated. 

NOW they say we can&#039;t afford it and we don&#039;t have enough doctors. Who was treating all these people before?  And who was paying for it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the Affordable Care Act:</p>
<p>Rush Limbaugh, among many others, kept repeating that it was not NEEDED because there was no such thing as seven million uninsured. ANYONE could walk into an emergency room and be treated. </p>
<p>NOW they say we can&#8217;t afford it and we don&#8217;t have enough doctors. Who was treating all these people before?  And who was paying for it?</p>
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		By: Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; Baez is not an anecdotal example, but a real person&quot;

LOL

That&#039;s what an anecdotal example is.
( See also: Confirmation bias and Cherry picking (fallacy)

Anecdotal evidence is considered dubious support of a claim; it is accepted only in lieu of more solid evidence. This is true regardless of the veracity of individual claims.

I don&#039;t know what pre- conscious is, but I do recognize racism. Lots of it. Sadly, much of it is from a branch of my family in Mississippi. It&#039;s lighting up Facebook like a beacon. 

&quot;I&#039;m not a racist, I hate Biden too&quot; is just fooling yourself. 

Of course, that&#039;s just anecdotal evidence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Baez is not an anecdotal example, but a real person&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what an anecdotal example is.<br />
( See also: Confirmation bias and Cherry picking (fallacy)</p>
<p>Anecdotal evidence is considered dubious support of a claim; it is accepted only in lieu of more solid evidence. This is true regardless of the veracity of individual claims.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what pre- conscious is, but I do recognize racism. Lots of it. Sadly, much of it is from a branch of my family in Mississippi. It&#8217;s lighting up Facebook like a beacon. </p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not a racist, I hate Biden too&#8221; is just fooling yourself. </p>
<p>Of course, that&#8217;s just anecdotal evidence.</p>
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		By: CalWatchdog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CalWatchdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 05:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/14/obamacare-will-add-7-million-insured-in-ca/#comment-9334&quot;&gt;Ted Steele, toilet cleaner&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, I&#039;m not a Republican. Grover Cleveland was a Democrat. In California, voting for president was pointless because it was obvious Obama would win by more than 2 million votes, which he did. Actually, voting of any kind probably is pointless. I didn&#039;t see any difference between Obama and Romney. So, if you voted for Obama, you really voted for Romney -- and are a Republican yourself!

&quot;Joan Baez...anecdotal example.&quot; Baez is not an anecdotal example, but a real person. I even provided the YouTube. And the Woodstock album sold millions. That was the attitude of a whole generation of LSD-saturated hippies that now run everything during flashbacks.

&quot;Within that population is a certain amount of conscious and pre conscious racism.&quot; No. Don&#039;t see it.  Pre consious? what&#039;s that? 

&quot;self inflated Constitutional scholar syndrome.&quot; So we shouldn&#039;t read the Constitution ourselves but only obey Our Masters in Government. And we should ignore that it begins, &quot;We the people....&quot;

-- John Seiler.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/14/obamacare-will-add-7-million-insured-in-ca/#comment-9334">Ted Steele, toilet cleaner</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, I&#8217;m not a Republican. Grover Cleveland was a Democrat. In California, voting for president was pointless because it was obvious Obama would win by more than 2 million votes, which he did. Actually, voting of any kind probably is pointless. I didn&#8217;t see any difference between Obama and Romney. So, if you voted for Obama, you really voted for Romney &#8212; and are a Republican yourself!</p>
<p>&#8220;Joan Baez&#8230;anecdotal example.&#8221; Baez is not an anecdotal example, but a real person. I even provided the YouTube. And the Woodstock album sold millions. That was the attitude of a whole generation of LSD-saturated hippies that now run everything during flashbacks.</p>
<p>&#8220;Within that population is a certain amount of conscious and pre conscious racism.&#8221; No. Don&#8217;t see it.  Pre consious? what&#8217;s that? </p>
<p>&#8220;self inflated Constitutional scholar syndrome.&#8221; So we shouldn&#8217;t read the Constitution ourselves but only obey Our Masters in Government. And we should ignore that it begins, &#8220;We the people&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212; John Seiler.</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, toilet cleaner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, toilet cleaner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 04:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John--ipso facto requitarum-- You ARE a defacto R amigo. Your whacky vote for a long dead Grover was a vote for Mitt. Sorry. 

Joan Baez, Gram Parsons and other anecdotal examples do nothing to convince me what I have seen and still do. The ultra right media, pols, and cash whores own a palpable hatred of the President that is obvious to even the casual observer. Within that population is a certain amount of conscious and pre conscious racism. You may feel that the amount is small. I think it&#039;s not as small as you might think.

People have been bitching about Presidential usurpation of power vis the Constitution since the Adam&#039;s administration and the alien and sedition act. Zzzzzzzzzz== about 80% of the whining is underwhelming. I think another defining aspect of the tea brewing contingent is the self inflated Constitutional scholar syndrome. (SCS)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John&#8211;ipso facto requitarum&#8211; You ARE a defacto R amigo. Your whacky vote for a long dead Grover was a vote for Mitt. Sorry. </p>
<p>Joan Baez, Gram Parsons and other anecdotal examples do nothing to convince me what I have seen and still do. The ultra right media, pols, and cash whores own a palpable hatred of the President that is obvious to even the casual observer. Within that population is a certain amount of conscious and pre conscious racism. You may feel that the amount is small. I think it&#8217;s not as small as you might think.</p>
<p>People have been bitching about Presidential usurpation of power vis the Constitution since the Adam&#8217;s administration and the alien and sedition act. Zzzzzzzzzz== about 80% of the whining is underwhelming. I think another defining aspect of the tea brewing contingent is the self inflated Constitutional scholar syndrome. (SCS)</p>
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