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		By: Donkey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Constitution says nothing about &quot;ordered&quot; anything. Your weak attempt supporting your view shows how little  you understand about our founding docuements. 

  One thing does stand out though, you are a fascist, with no knowledge of the limits the Constitution places on government, even though today it is ignored at many levels by fools like you.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Constitution says nothing about &#8220;ordered&#8221; anything. Your weak attempt supporting your view shows how little  you understand about our founding docuements. </p>
<p>  One thing does stand out though, you are a fascist, with no knowledge of the limits the Constitution places on government, even though today it is ignored at many levels by fools like you.  🙂</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/22/prop-8-protagonist-media-never-cite-her-role-in-scam/#comment-9615</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe in ordered liberty, Donkey, just as our Founders did.  It is you who reject the &quot;ordered&quot; portion of their creation, which makes you both an anarchist and a wholly impractical political philosopher.

There&#039;s really nothing more to add, but I expect you&#039;ll try so you can reassure yourself that your basic beliefs aren&#039;t built on a flimsy a framework as, in fact, they are.

As Ted says, pound away little troll!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in ordered liberty, Donkey, just as our Founders did.  It is you who reject the &#8220;ordered&#8221; portion of their creation, which makes you both an anarchist and a wholly impractical political philosopher.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s really nothing more to add, but I expect you&#8217;ll try so you can reassure yourself that your basic beliefs aren&#8217;t built on a flimsy a framework as, in fact, they are.</p>
<p>As Ted says, pound away little troll!</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are indeed a fascist Skdog. Your leanings can be summed up as follows:

   You prefer government whose powers are unrestrained-- what, if any, are the limits on government power currently recognized by you SKdog?


  You believe in a leader who is a dictator, and a police force that is unaccounhtable for their actions, absolute in power but responsible to the party which is a preferred elite;

 An economy in which property is privately owned, but politically controlled by RAGWUS feeders;

  The all-encompassing influence of great government bureaucracies, the RAGWUS, which have the power to make regulations or directives with the force of law, giving your cabal of LE the power to murder anyone they come in contact with, or take their property;

 The socialization of investment through  comprehensive integration of government and finances -- 

 The creation of streams of purchasing power by federal government borrowing and spending as a permanent institution  --  a process that has thrived under the current POTUS

 Militarism, police state, and the PIC as an all-pervasive cultural attitude, and the military and Prison Industrial Conplex as a pillar of the economy; 

 Imperialism as the organizing principle of national life, whether overtly embraced or tacitly understood, with the population constantly presented with some national crusade or adventure on the heroic model touching deeply the springs of chauvinistic pride, interest, and feeling.

  I am a Constitutionalist Skdog, not an anacrhist, as you claim. You however, are a fascist in the first degree!!   ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are indeed a fascist Skdog. Your leanings can be summed up as follows:</p>
<p>   You prefer government whose powers are unrestrained&#8211; what, if any, are the limits on government power currently recognized by you SKdog?</p>
<p>  You believe in a leader who is a dictator, and a police force that is unaccounhtable for their actions, absolute in power but responsible to the party which is a preferred elite;</p>
<p> An economy in which property is privately owned, but politically controlled by RAGWUS feeders;</p>
<p>  The all-encompassing influence of great government bureaucracies, the RAGWUS, which have the power to make regulations or directives with the force of law, giving your cabal of LE the power to murder anyone they come in contact with, or take their property;</p>
<p> The socialization of investment through  comprehensive integration of government and finances &#8212; </p>
<p> The creation of streams of purchasing power by federal government borrowing and spending as a permanent institution  &#8212;  a process that has thrived under the current POTUS</p>
<p> Militarism, police state, and the PIC as an all-pervasive cultural attitude, and the military and Prison Industrial Conplex as a pillar of the economy; </p>
<p> Imperialism as the organizing principle of national life, whether overtly embraced or tacitly understood, with the population constantly presented with some national crusade or adventure on the heroic model touching deeply the springs of chauvinistic pride, interest, and feeling.</p>
<p>  I am a Constitutionalist Skdog, not an anacrhist, as you claim. You however, are a fascist in the first degree!!   😉</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/22/prop-8-protagonist-media-never-cite-her-role-in-scam/#comment-9613</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not a fascist at all, Donkey.  Unlike most of you on the right side of our politics, I don&#039;t believe our government exists primarily to serve the interests of crony capitalism.  I believe our government exists to provide domestic tranquility while safeguarding our basic freedoms, among which are the freedom to walk about without having some crazed dope fiend wave a gun at you in Huntington Beach.  That&#039;s why we have police.

Your stretch to compare our system of law and justice with those of Communist China, Nazi Germany, the USSR, and the late Roman Empire is nothing short of ridiculous.  Although there have been many instances of genocide throughout human history, there&#039;s no possible way to determine a number of victims.  In any event, those genocides were usually committed in the process of expanding whatever kingdom or government was instigating it.  There is no analog to that and the protection of civil society from crazed people wandering around with weapons.

So, your claim about genocide being the equivalent of &quot;justifiable homicide&quot; is, like so many of your other claims, nothing more than an uninformed diatribe against the very institutions that mitigate those threats in our modern world.

Finally, I use the term &quot;anarchist&quot; to describe you not to hurt your feelings at all, but to accurately label your rejection of our legal institutions and authorities.  It fits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a fascist at all, Donkey.  Unlike most of you on the right side of our politics, I don&#8217;t believe our government exists primarily to serve the interests of crony capitalism.  I believe our government exists to provide domestic tranquility while safeguarding our basic freedoms, among which are the freedom to walk about without having some crazed dope fiend wave a gun at you in Huntington Beach.  That&#8217;s why we have police.</p>
<p>Your stretch to compare our system of law and justice with those of Communist China, Nazi Germany, the USSR, and the late Roman Empire is nothing short of ridiculous.  Although there have been many instances of genocide throughout human history, there&#8217;s no possible way to determine a number of victims.  In any event, those genocides were usually committed in the process of expanding whatever kingdom or government was instigating it.  There is no analog to that and the protection of civil society from crazed people wandering around with weapons.</p>
<p>So, your claim about genocide being the equivalent of &#8220;justifiable homicide&#8221; is, like so many of your other claims, nothing more than an uninformed diatribe against the very institutions that mitigate those threats in our modern world.</p>
<p>Finally, I use the term &#8220;anarchist&#8221; to describe you not to hurt your feelings at all, but to accurately label your rejection of our legal institutions and authorities.  It fits.</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 20:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is always nice to see the fool recite the fools true feelings Skdog, your insight is weak. 

  I am far from being an anarchist, but you are indeed a fascist. The Constitution was written to restrict the government at all levels. 
Sure bureacracies such as the LE RAGWUS has usurped the rights of the people and twisted the words of law to allow for murder of citzens. Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Tojo, and Rome all used the legal system to kill others. Over 500,000,0000 humans have been snuffed out by the good people in government over history Skdog, so your use of the term &quot;anarchist&quot; does little to hurt my feelings towards people that seem to believe that our cruel and deadly form is somehow better the the Huns.  

  By the way Skdog, all those murderers I mentioned above, all had justifiable homicide in their lawbooks also!  How about our PIC SKslime.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is always nice to see the fool recite the fools true feelings Skdog, your insight is weak. </p>
<p>  I am far from being an anarchist, but you are indeed a fascist. The Constitution was written to restrict the government at all levels.<br />
Sure bureacracies such as the LE RAGWUS has usurped the rights of the people and twisted the words of law to allow for murder of citzens. Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Tojo, and Rome all used the legal system to kill others. Over 500,000,0000 humans have been snuffed out by the good people in government over history Skdog, so your use of the term &#8220;anarchist&#8221; does little to hurt my feelings towards people that seem to believe that our cruel and deadly form is somehow better the the Huns.  </p>
<p>  By the way Skdog, all those murderers I mentioned above, all had justifiable homicide in their lawbooks also!  How about our PIC SKslime.  🙂</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/22/prop-8-protagonist-media-never-cite-her-role-in-scam/#comment-9611</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW, Donkey, have you been staying in touch with Rex and Observer?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Donkey, have you been staying in touch with Rex and Observer?</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/22/prop-8-protagonist-media-never-cite-her-role-in-scam/#comment-9610</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One final point for you to remember, my equus asinus friend; murder is not the same as justifiable homicide.  If that were not the case, you would have no right of self defense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One final point for you to remember, my equus asinus friend; murder is not the same as justifiable homicide.  If that were not the case, you would have no right of self defense.</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/22/prop-8-protagonist-media-never-cite-her-role-in-scam/#comment-9609</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are basically an anarchist, Donkey, so your rejection of any instituted or received authority is understandable.  That doesn&#039;t mean your interpretation is rational or correct.

If the officer involved in the shooting had any objective symptoms of intoxication or drug use, he would most certainly have a toxicology text performed.  In many jurisdictions, the police agency routinely takes a blood or urine sample from any officer involved in a critical incident, such as a shooting or a major vehicle collision.  I don&#039;t know what the policy for such things is at HBPD, but I&#039;m sure you could easily find out what it is as a resident of that fair city.

I&#039;ve seen the video you refer to and know that the officer involved was fired for his actions.  That is appropriate, unless there&#039;s substantially more to the context of the event than has been displayed or written anywhere with the video.  It&#039;s also relevant to note that the event you cite took place in a Maine prison, not in California or Huntington Beach.  It&#039;s also good to remember that something like pepper spray is a minimal level of force, certainly compared to the alternatives of a physical dog pile or the use of a striking instrument such as a baton.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are basically an anarchist, Donkey, so your rejection of any instituted or received authority is understandable.  That doesn&#8217;t mean your interpretation is rational or correct.</p>
<p>If the officer involved in the shooting had any objective symptoms of intoxication or drug use, he would most certainly have a toxicology text performed.  In many jurisdictions, the police agency routinely takes a blood or urine sample from any officer involved in a critical incident, such as a shooting or a major vehicle collision.  I don&#8217;t know what the policy for such things is at HBPD, but I&#8217;m sure you could easily find out what it is as a resident of that fair city.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the video you refer to and know that the officer involved was fired for his actions.  That is appropriate, unless there&#8217;s substantially more to the context of the event than has been displayed or written anywhere with the video.  It&#8217;s also relevant to note that the event you cite took place in a Maine prison, not in California or Huntington Beach.  It&#8217;s also good to remember that something like pepper spray is a minimal level of force, certainly compared to the alternatives of a physical dog pile or the use of a striking instrument such as a baton.</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/03/22/prop-8-protagonist-media-never-cite-her-role-in-scam/#comment-9608</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Skdog wrote: &quot;I’ll be interested when his toxicology reports are complete to see just how big a load of dope he had on board before his big exit.&quot; 

    I put  no trust in any investigation or tests conducted by a closed, secret cabal of sociopaths. I watched a video the other day of a prison guard using pepper spray on a human being held in a restraint chair. From a foot away this miscreant sprayed in his eyes, nose and mouth. Then he put a mask over his face and left him to die. People like you are just cruel and twisted. I have physically hurt people in one on one battles, but not for inner pleasure or for a oxytocin release as you LE sociopaths seek. 

  What about a toxicology report on the shooter Skdog? What the killer using at the time of the murder?    These LE murders are outside the limits placed on the government by the Bill of Rights. Nothing in the Constitution gives a government hired goon with a costume the power to murder citizens walking the streets.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skdog wrote: &#8220;I’ll be interested when his toxicology reports are complete to see just how big a load of dope he had on board before his big exit.&#8221; </p>
<p>    I put  no trust in any investigation or tests conducted by a closed, secret cabal of sociopaths. I watched a video the other day of a prison guard using pepper spray on a human being held in a restraint chair. From a foot away this miscreant sprayed in his eyes, nose and mouth. Then he put a mask over his face and left him to die. People like you are just cruel and twisted. I have physically hurt people in one on one battles, but not for inner pleasure or for a oxytocin release as you LE sociopaths seek. </p>
<p>  What about a toxicology report on the shooter Skdog? What the killer using at the time of the murder?    These LE murders are outside the limits placed on the government by the Bill of Rights. Nothing in the Constitution gives a government hired goon with a costume the power to murder citizens walking the streets.  🙂</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 06:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The murder of a citizen&quot;?  Surely you jest, Donkey!  Little Ian the Weasel pulled a gun on some poor citizen and pulled it out again and waved it at the responding police officer.  There&#039;s only one way that series of truly bad decisions ever ends.

I&#039;ll be interested when his toxicology reports are complete to see just how big a load of dope he had on board before his big exit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The murder of a citizen&#8221;?  Surely you jest, Donkey!  Little Ian the Weasel pulled a gun on some poor citizen and pulled it out again and waved it at the responding police officer.  There&#8217;s only one way that series of truly bad decisions ever ends.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be interested when his toxicology reports are complete to see just how big a load of dope he had on board before his big exit.</p>
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