Comments on: ‘Unsafe handguns’ now the target of Dems

By: Bossman

Bossman — Thu, 02 May 2013 15:11:46 +0000

Words to live by: It is better to remain silent and be THOUGHT a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Skippy, if you had bothered to read the article that you yourself referred to, you maybe could still have at least a little credibility. The only shielding Bush gave manufacturers was just what nraendowment said it was. It ONLY protects gun manufacturers from lawsuits brought against them for the illegal use of their products. The SAME protection auto manufacturers have from being sued if someone gets drunk and kills someone with the car. NOT, if the car has a manufacturing flaw which causes someone to lose control and kill someone or if the car bursts into flames and kills someone. If a gun blows up in your hand and it is the fault of the manufacturer, sue away. If some crack head is robbing a liquor store to buy his next fix and kills the owner, the owner’s family can not sue the manufacturer. They can not sue the seller of the gun unless they can prove the seller KNEW the gun was going to be used for the crime.
“Think before you speak, Google before you write and Snopes before you quote.”

By: Insider

Insider — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 00:22:17 +0000

How about the 600 guns that were tested, passed and put on the list but at some point were removed from the list because the manufacturer chose to quit marketing the gun in CA? Are they suddenly unsafe because the DOJ doesn’t get a $200/year listing payment? How about the high quality Colts, S&W’s and Rugers that were made before SB-15 was passed? They are equal to the quality and safety of their successors that are currently on the list.

SB-15 was a capricious attempt to demonize a segment of guns that the Dems knew they couldn’t ban outright. Much to their chagrin, Ravens are on the list today.

AB-169 smells the same way, prevent future sales under the guise of safety, while giving LEO’s and Hollywood (who trains those guys to be the equal of LEO’s) the pass. It isn’t about safety, it’s about banning guns by attrition.

By: SkippingDog

SkippingDog — Sat, 06 Apr 2013 03:21:35 +0000

Product misuse is certainly a defense in product liability lawsuits, but only gun manufacturers have received a complete exemption for liability for the foreseeable misuse of their products. That means the industry is based, at least in part, on profits made from the sale of their products when the industry knows they will be used for an unlawful purpose. The only way to protect society from that kind of pernicious influence is to specifically test and regulate the products approved for sale.

By: SkippingDog

SkippingDog — Sat, 06 Apr 2013 03:12:11 +0000

You are incorrect, nraendowment, just as your namesake is so often. Here’s a little story about the exemption. Look up the statute itself if you need further evidence.

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/bush-signed-2005-law-protecting-gun-m

By: nraendowment

nraendowment — Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:24:58 +0000

Skippingdog, firearms manufacturers are not exempt from product liability and you know it. They are protected from the B.S. lawsuits claiming they are somehow responsible for misuse of their product (it’s like claiming Ford is responsible for a criminal using one of their cars in a bank robbery).

By: SkippingDog

SkippingDog — Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:54:47 +0000

Recognizing that firearms like RG, Raven Arms, Jennings, and a lot of others are generally nothing more than pot metal crap that’s almost equally dangerous at both ends has nothing to do with having my food and clothing selected for me. Firearms manufacturers already received an exemption from lawsuits for making unsafe products, so the only way to keep that junk off the market if for states to identify and prohibit it for sale.

If you manage to get the lawsuit exemption removed so firearms manufacturers and dealers can be responsible for the safety of their products like every other manufacturer of consumer items is, then you might have a point that the market and courts are the best way to determine what products should be sold.

By: Mike Bingham

Mike Bingham — Thu, 04 Apr 2013 04:27:45 +0000

Skippy ,you are an idiot. Why don’t I pick out all of your clothes and food for you since it is all the same and just a relatively small inconvenience. If I wanted the government to pick out every thing for me I would live in china or North Korea

By: SkippingDog

SkippingDog — Thu, 04 Apr 2013 01:00:10 +0000

Nearly all ammunition is in short supply right now because the gun nuts have started hoarding it to prepare for the new civil war they are hoping for when we have some sensible nationwide firearms restrictions enacted. Of course the NRA and the NSSF have done everything in their power to increase and maintain those fears, since the firearms industry they support is making record sales and profits over the bodies of the Shady Hook school children and all of the other gun violence victims in our country.

I have been a gun owner for more than 40 years, and have used firearms professionally for over 35 years now. While our state laws do restrict some of the firearms I might purchase if such laws were not in effect, it is really nothing more than a minor inconvenience that is worth the trade-off in increased safety and fewer accidents from unsafe weapons. There are plenty of safe and well designed firearms on the approved list, any of which will serve the purpose of both personal protection and sport, so I’m not at all convinced the proposed legislation is a significant imposition on anyone other than pawn shops.

By: CalWatchdog

CalWatchdog — Wed, 03 Apr 2013 23:25:46 +0000

Sorry Skippy – I also checked it out, because I too have a .380 and could not get the ammo at a shooting range. But that was more than 18 months ago. I have since used the gun in CA and was able to purchase ammo at a local shooting range as recently as January.

My “rant” is not based on anecdotal evidence.

Katy

By: Dyspeptic

Dyspeptic — Wed, 03 Apr 2013 22:50:27 +0000

Alert the media, Skippy finally got something right! There are no particular restrictions on .380 auto ammunition in Crazyfornia yet. But don’t worry, Skippy’s Progressive Fascist friends are probably working on one.

Both Skinner and Dickinson are cookie cutter progressive reactionaries who will use any conceivable gimmick legislation to infringe our 2nd Amendment civil rights. They are part of a powerful and obnoxious group of legislators along with Kevin DeLeon, Leland Yee, Darryl Steinberg and Loni Hancock who are throwing everything they can think of at the 2nd Amendment to see what will stick. The world would be a better place if they were all run over by a bus full of Bozo The Clown impersonators.

It is completely bogus to claim that handguns not on the roster are inherently unsafe. Dickinson is exploiting public and media ignorance by claiming this, like the lowlife demagogue that he is. Many handguns are excluded from the roster simply because the manufacturer or importer doesn’t want to pay for state testing. Each and every variation of the same handgun must be tested separately, even if the changes are only cosmetic or are the result of additional safety features. This can be too expensive for small manufacturers and importers so they don’t bother. Even among major domestic manufacturers many variations of Roster listed handguns are not submitted for testing due to time and money constraints.

The real purpose of Crazyfornia’s Roster of Approved Handguns is to limit the number and variety of handguns available to lawful gun owners and reduce consumer choice while driving up prices. Just more Fascist monkey business brought to you by your friendly local jackbooted Demoncrats.

The end game here is to make gun ownership so onerous, expensive and fraught with legal peril that most residents will give up and be disarmed, LIKE IN CHICAGO AND WASHINGTON D.C. Skippy and friends really do want a completely disarmed and helpless population of drone tax payers who will put up with any amount of tyranny with a shrug of the shoulders. Even in this deranged and degenerate state that isn’t going to work.