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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/04/10/ca-lawmaker-use-tax-code-to-punish-unpopular-views/#comment-10371</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 03:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You, Donkey, are a crackpot.  I sure hope you weren&#039;t anywhere near Boston today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You, Donkey, are a crackpot.  I sure hope you weren&#8217;t anywhere near Boston today.</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 13:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Skdog, not at all surprised by your words, exactly what evey commie, socialist/fascist, race baiter, RAGWUS feeder would respond with, very predictable. A poster child copy for the tyrants in a George Orwell article. 

  I now see that the ownership of property disturbs the little commie/socialist hamster in your head, and that fits well with your participation in the police state and the PIC.  

  Again Skdog, you don&#039;t even know the meaning of &quot;bigotry!&quot; It is clear from your writings your are bigoted against, Whites, propoerty owners, free speech, guns, and freedom of any kind without state approval. I on the other hand believe in unfettered freedom and the actual words of the Founders&#062;  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skdog, not at all surprised by your words, exactly what evey commie, socialist/fascist, race baiter, RAGWUS feeder would respond with, very predictable. A poster child copy for the tyrants in a George Orwell article. </p>
<p>  I now see that the ownership of property disturbs the little commie/socialist hamster in your head, and that fits well with your participation in the police state and the PIC.  </p>
<p>  Again Skdog, you don&#8217;t even know the meaning of &#8220;bigotry!&#8221; It is clear from your writings your are bigoted against, Whites, propoerty owners, free speech, guns, and freedom of any kind without state approval. I on the other hand believe in unfettered freedom and the actual words of the Founders&gt;  🙂</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/04/10/ca-lawmaker-use-tax-code-to-punish-unpopular-views/#comment-10369</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 07:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A fine defense of bigotry, Donkey!  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s something you&#039;re proud of.

Your argument that our Constitution doesn&#039;t mention discrimination or bigotry, therefore you should be free to engage in it to your heart&#039;s content, hasn&#039;t held water in our country for over a century now.  Equal protection under the law means just that, regardless of whether you wish to discriminate or not.

There are fundamental social needs and obligations that outweigh your desire to exercise unfettered bigotry, as least in the public sphere of our lives.  You&#039;re just wishing for a return to the world where white property owners, like you claim to be, comprised the real cabal you like to invoke and everyone else was just faceless inputs for their enterprises.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fine defense of bigotry, Donkey!  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s something you&#8217;re proud of.</p>
<p>Your argument that our Constitution doesn&#8217;t mention discrimination or bigotry, therefore you should be free to engage in it to your heart&#8217;s content, hasn&#8217;t held water in our country for over a century now.  Equal protection under the law means just that, regardless of whether you wish to discriminate or not.</p>
<p>There are fundamental social needs and obligations that outweigh your desire to exercise unfettered bigotry, as least in the public sphere of our lives.  You&#8217;re just wishing for a return to the world where white property owners, like you claim to be, comprised the real cabal you like to invoke and everyone else was just faceless inputs for their enterprises.</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/04/10/ca-lawmaker-use-tax-code-to-punish-unpopular-views/#comment-10368</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 00:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Skdog, you don&#039;t even know the meaning of bigotry!!!!  It means   
intolerance or prejudice, traits that every human uses to avoid contact with people that they find offensive or deranged. Traits that your cabal uses everytime you costume clad clowns come in contace with a citizen. 

   There is and never was anything in the Constitution that allows the government to dictate to individuals who they can associate with, but mettlesome folk like you, have been on a crusade to dictate and control every single persons likes, dislikes, beliefs, habits, customs, learning, what they can and cannot own or do, and many other fascist ideas along these lines. People like you continue to oppress as often as you can with your nanny state agenda, freedom for the non-connected makes you sick and weak. The mere thought that a free citizen in the private is successfull causes the hamsters in your brain to spin the wheels of control, the doer must be held back by mettlesome RAGWUS feeder. 

  The real truth here SKdog, is you are only seeking control of other people lives  so you can loot their earning. You will use any excuse, any act, any study, and any quack science to get your filthy paws on the money of the doers in this nation, and You will do this just to keep your dishonest pension checks coming.   :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skdog, you don&#8217;t even know the meaning of bigotry!!!!  It means<br />
intolerance or prejudice, traits that every human uses to avoid contact with people that they find offensive or deranged. Traits that your cabal uses everytime you costume clad clowns come in contace with a citizen. </p>
<p>   There is and never was anything in the Constitution that allows the government to dictate to individuals who they can associate with, but mettlesome folk like you, have been on a crusade to dictate and control every single persons likes, dislikes, beliefs, habits, customs, learning, what they can and cannot own or do, and many other fascist ideas along these lines. People like you continue to oppress as often as you can with your nanny state agenda, freedom for the non-connected makes you sick and weak. The mere thought that a free citizen in the private is successfull causes the hamsters in your brain to spin the wheels of control, the doer must be held back by mettlesome RAGWUS feeder. </p>
<p>  The real truth here SKdog, is you are only seeking control of other people lives  so you can loot their earning. You will use any excuse, any act, any study, and any quack science to get your filthy paws on the money of the doers in this nation, and You will do this just to keep your dishonest pension checks coming.   🙂</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/04/10/ca-lawmaker-use-tax-code-to-punish-unpopular-views/#comment-10367</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Donk.  Non-discrimination means just that.  It all goes back to equal protection under our laws and the national foundations you claim to admire and respect.  A carrot-and-stick approach through our tax code is far preferable to you folks having to appear before a magistrate for a criminal violation every time you let your bigotry get out of hand, don&#039;t you think?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Donk.  Non-discrimination means just that.  It all goes back to equal protection under our laws and the national foundations you claim to admire and respect.  A carrot-and-stick approach through our tax code is far preferable to you folks having to appear before a magistrate for a criminal violation every time you let your bigotry get out of hand, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 09:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Skdog, your &quot;non-discrimination&quot; mantra is government being used to discriminate to those that don&#039;t think like you. Typical fascist!!  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skdog, your &#8220;non-discrimination&#8221; mantra is government being used to discriminate to those that don&#8217;t think like you. Typical fascist!!  🙂</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/04/10/ca-lawmaker-use-tax-code-to-punish-unpopular-views/#comment-10365</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe I answered your question about my personal preferences for tax exemptions, John.  But, absent the overall changes I support for all such exemptions and deductions, yes, I think it would be appropriate to use our tax code as a tool to encourage compliance with our basic social policy of non-discrimination in the public sphere.  That still provides the opportunity for bigots to exercise their liberty by being bigots, but doesn&#039;t reward their behavior with preferential tax treatment for them or their funding sources.

I feel the same way about colleges that won&#039;t allow ROTC recruiters on campus, businesses that refuse to comply with labor laws like those in our Veteran&#039;s Code, and any organization that operates outside compliance with the laws creating the legal framework of our social policies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I answered your question about my personal preferences for tax exemptions, John.  But, absent the overall changes I support for all such exemptions and deductions, yes, I think it would be appropriate to use our tax code as a tool to encourage compliance with our basic social policy of non-discrimination in the public sphere.  That still provides the opportunity for bigots to exercise their liberty by being bigots, but doesn&#8217;t reward their behavior with preferential tax treatment for them or their funding sources.</p>
<p>I feel the same way about colleges that won&#8217;t allow ROTC recruiters on campus, businesses that refuse to comply with labor laws like those in our Veteran&#8217;s Code, and any organization that operates outside compliance with the laws creating the legal framework of our social policies.</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/04/10/ca-lawmaker-use-tax-code-to-punish-unpopular-views/#comment-10364</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 13:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Skdog is only after more taxpayers dollars, it matters little to him how it is derived, if an untapped source available he wants it. The Beatles song &quot;Taxman&quot; makes him glow. 

  The RAGWUS needs revenue, it is dying.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skdog is only after more taxpayers dollars, it matters little to him how it is derived, if an untapped source available he wants it. The Beatles song &#8220;Taxman&#8221; makes him glow. </p>
<p>  The RAGWUS needs revenue, it is dying.  🙂</p>
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		By: CalWatchdog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/04/10/ca-lawmaker-use-tax-code-to-punish-unpopular-views/#comment-10363</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CalWatchdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 05:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SkippingDog: I understand your position. It might actually be a good idea. If churches were taxed, then they would stop being such sheep in opposing the repressive government. (Except that I never favor raising anybody&#039;s taxes for any reason.)

However, my question was not whether the tax exemption should be removed from all religious groups. But whether it should be removed ONLY from religious groups that do NOT have women clergy. 

Which seemed to be your position when you wrote, &quot;If you wish to discriminate against people for their race, sex, religion, sexual orientation, or any other reason incompatible with ensuring the blessings of liberty to all, you’re certainly free to do so. You’re just not free to express your bigotry in a public accommodation or expect me to support some kind of tax write-off that supports your position.&quot;

Am I correct?

-- John Seiler]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SkippingDog: I understand your position. It might actually be a good idea. If churches were taxed, then they would stop being such sheep in opposing the repressive government. (Except that I never favor raising anybody&#8217;s taxes for any reason.)</p>
<p>However, my question was not whether the tax exemption should be removed from all religious groups. But whether it should be removed ONLY from religious groups that do NOT have women clergy. </p>
<p>Which seemed to be your position when you wrote, &#8220;If you wish to discriminate against people for their race, sex, religion, sexual orientation, or any other reason incompatible with ensuring the blessings of liberty to all, you’re certainly free to do so. You’re just not free to express your bigotry in a public accommodation or expect me to support some kind of tax write-off that supports your position.&#8221;</p>
<p>Am I correct?</p>
<p>&#8212; John Seiler</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/04/10/ca-lawmaker-use-tax-code-to-punish-unpopular-views/#comment-10362</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 04:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was the &quot;feelings&quot; you disregard, Ironsun, that prompted the growth of abolitionists in the 19th Century, supported the creation of basic laws against animal abuse through the ASPCA, put muscle behind the effort for women&#039;s suffrage, and challenged our moral claims enough to make changes in child labor and workplace safety laws.  Every one of those improvements in our civilization began with &quot;feelings.&quot;  Your disparagement of that locus tells us much more about your own lack of a moral compass than anything else you could possibly say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the &#8220;feelings&#8221; you disregard, Ironsun, that prompted the growth of abolitionists in the 19th Century, supported the creation of basic laws against animal abuse through the ASPCA, put muscle behind the effort for women&#8217;s suffrage, and challenged our moral claims enough to make changes in child labor and workplace safety laws.  Every one of those improvements in our civilization began with &#8220;feelings.&#8221;  Your disparagement of that locus tells us much more about your own lack of a moral compass than anything else you could possibly say.</p>
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