Comments on: Kern County sheriffs seize cell phones to hide killing of citizen

By: Cal Atty

Cal Atty — Fri, 24 May 2013 16:51:45 +0000

Actually, the cell phones were taken after a warrant was secured, so, technically, no 4th Am. violation for that reason. However, the real question was the apparent forced sequestration of the phone owners in their homes for hours until a warrant could be secured. That is a no-no. As well the grounds for the warrants may be highly suspect.

By: bob moore

bob moore — Sat, 18 May 2013 08:47:32 +0000

if we cant record cops how can they record us. the rules for the cops should be the same as for the citizens.when someone is killed by cops and they caused the incident like in bakersfield they should automatically be prosecuted .

By: ExCop-LawStudent

ExCop-LawStudent — Thu, 16 May 2013 16:06:27 +0000

The use of a search warrant to seize the cellphone likely violated federal law (42 USC 2000aa). In the 911 tape, the lady clearly tells the operator that she intends to send the video to the news media, meeting the work product definition of the statute as material intended for dissemination to the public. The Sheriff’s Office must subpoena the video, which also means that the owner would keep possession of a copy – which could then be sent to the media.

Let me know if you want more info and I’ll post a link.

By: Donkey

Donkey — Tue, 14 May 2013 19:37:32 +0000

John wrote: “Finally, as I mentioned in my previous blog on a new private Detroit program, police need to be re-trained from their current mode of beating and shooting first, to the old one of first protecting the lives of citizens — even at the risk of their own lives.”

I have been singing this same theme ever since the murder of Ashley MacDonald!! 🙂

By: Donkey

Donkey — Tue, 14 May 2013 19:35:00 +0000

Hondo, the RAGWUS sucks!!!! 🙂

By: Donkey

Donkey — Tue, 14 May 2013 19:33:12 +0000

This is typical police behavior all over the nation. There is no accountability when the wolves are doing the investigating and police written policy usurps the Constitutional rights of the citizens they are murdering. The British didn’t even behave this badly towards the colonials. You can go to youtube and watch endless film of cops commiting felonies on both cuffed and unresponsive citizens, knowing that the system is rigged in their favor.

The police officers Bill of Rights is used to keep the criminals in LE from being prosecuted, while the citizens Bill of Rights is ignored. 🙂

By: Dyspeptic

Dyspeptic — Tue, 14 May 2013 05:30:22 +0000

Just another routine thug swarm from our valiant boys in blue. Give some people a badge and they think they can do anything. Hondo, you are right about cop unions. They are a public menace. When will the complacent and self absorbed public wake up and put a stop to this kind of abuse? That’s obviously a rhetorical question. Most people don’t seem to understand that if it can happen to a stranger it can happen to them just as easily.

We truly live in an idiotocracy. Thanks to government school indoctrination and a complicit “news” media the average American has about as much principled concern for civil liberties as the average German citizen of 1934. It’s a wonder we have any liberty left at all.

By: Hondo

Hondo — Tue, 14 May 2013 04:41:20 +0000

As much as I try to take the side of the police, this is one of many instances they need to be smacked down. Then there were the 2 ladies who were shot up by idiot cops looking for Dorner.
Cops across the country are horrified of those cell phones. Many states still try to make it illegal to video tape a cop on the job, no matter how many times courts defend it.
The street law says it ain’t illegal till you get caught. And prosecuted and imprisoned. Possession is nine tenths of the law. The cops got the phones now and I imagine the videos will be somehow ‘damaged beyond use’.
Part of the problem is the police unions. It is nearly impossible to fire a public worker of any type and their unions have amassed huge amounts of money to hire armies of lawyers.
The city will have to settle. The police and afford to litigate but the city can’t. There will be no charges because the videos will end up being ‘unusable’, but there are still people who saw the attack and the city will be forced to pay idiotic amounts to the family. The cops will get off, scot free.
Hondo……