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		By: Donkey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 03:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Charles, the RAGWUS pensions are the product of a mutual fraud put upon the taxpayers, it was never a promise, but always a dishonest scam.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, the RAGWUS pensions are the product of a mutual fraud put upon the taxpayers, it was never a promise, but always a dishonest scam.  🙂</p>
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		By: Charles		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/05/15/yes-govt-pensions-can-be-completely-canceled/#comment-11584</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 14:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Theft is theft. Promises of benefits in lieu of wages are part of the entire compensation package. If the government lies where does it stop?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theft is theft. Promises of benefits in lieu of wages are part of the entire compensation package. If the government lies where does it stop?</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/05/15/yes-govt-pensions-can-be-completely-canceled/#comment-11583</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 14:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[US Citizen, you say, &quot;You have soc sec which you have paid into and SAVINGS.&quot;

You do realize that Social Security is not fully funded by what you have paid. It is &quot;living off the taxpayer&quot; just as you claim government pensioners do. You pay 6.2% of your salary (up to a maximum). Many government employees pay this AND 8-15% toward their pension.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US Citizen, you say, &#8220;You have soc sec which you have paid into and SAVINGS.&#8221;</p>
<p>You do realize that Social Security is not fully funded by what you have paid. It is &#8220;living off the taxpayer&#8221; just as you claim government pensioners do. You pay 6.2% of your salary (up to a maximum). Many government employees pay this AND 8-15% toward their pension.</p>
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		By: Tough Love		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/05/15/yes-govt-pensions-can-be-completely-canceled/#comment-11582</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tough Love]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 04:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well Stated &quot;RedinaBlueState says&quot;.

Via the Public Sector Unions bribing of our elected officials with campaign contributions and election support, in exchange for favorable votes on pay, pensions, and benefits, they have succeeded in obtaining retirement benefits of such great magnitude that career workers can retire in great comfort and need not save a dime outside of the gov&#039;t-provied (COLA-adjusted) pensions. 

These extraordinarily generous PUBLIC Sector pensions come at great cost to Private Sector Taxpayers, Taxpayers who NEVER get such generous pensions from their employers and must save a substantive portion of their net pay over many decades in order to retire in reasonable comfort.

WHY are Public Sector workers excused from having too do the same ... on OUR Dime ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Stated &#8220;RedinaBlueState says&#8221;.</p>
<p>Via the Public Sector Unions bribing of our elected officials with campaign contributions and election support, in exchange for favorable votes on pay, pensions, and benefits, they have succeeded in obtaining retirement benefits of such great magnitude that career workers can retire in great comfort and need not save a dime outside of the gov&#8217;t-provied (COLA-adjusted) pensions. </p>
<p>These extraordinarily generous PUBLIC Sector pensions come at great cost to Private Sector Taxpayers, Taxpayers who NEVER get such generous pensions from their employers and must save a substantive portion of their net pay over many decades in order to retire in reasonable comfort.</p>
<p>WHY are Public Sector workers excused from having too do the same &#8230; on OUR Dime ?</p>
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		By: realitybites		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[realitybites]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 04:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[people who think elections mean anything, have been watching too many old movies. in california many people (alien) &#038; us citizens are bussed around to various voting stations &#038; vote as many times as it takes to steal an election. many places just dump non democratic votes. there&#039;s not much hope for any different situation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people who think elections mean anything, have been watching too many old movies. in california many people (alien) &amp; us citizens are bussed around to various voting stations &amp; vote as many times as it takes to steal an election. many places just dump non democratic votes. there&#8217;s not much hope for any different situation.</p>
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		By: RedinaBlueState		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RedinaBlueState]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 02:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Plenty of (private sector) auto workers lost pensions because the funds went belly up.  They never should have relied on someone else&#039;s promises over taking care of themselves.  I save 12% of my income for retirement and the state takes another percentage to pay for those who won&#039;t do for themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of (private sector) auto workers lost pensions because the funds went belly up.  They never should have relied on someone else&#8217;s promises over taking care of themselves.  I save 12% of my income for retirement and the state takes another percentage to pay for those who won&#8217;t do for themselves.</p>
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		By: Tough Love		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/05/15/yes-govt-pensions-can-be-completely-canceled/#comment-11579</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tough Love]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 23:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Quoting Skippy ...&quot;Only the churlish begrudge those officers their salaries and hard won benefits.&quot;

And only the boorish begrudge Taxpayers would rightfully protest these grossly excessive, and unnecessary Taxpayer-funded pensions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting Skippy &#8230;&#8221;Only the churlish begrudge those officers their salaries and hard won benefits.&#8221;</p>
<p>And only the boorish begrudge Taxpayers would rightfully protest these grossly excessive, and unnecessary Taxpayer-funded pensions.</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/05/15/yes-govt-pensions-can-be-completely-canceled/#comment-11578</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 23:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be the first to admit there are some dumb cops out there. All you need to do is watch an old program called &quot;top cops&quot; to see them.  I think it also depends on where an officer works and how well they&#039;re educated. There&#039;s a reason some people who desire a law enforcement career have to take a police job in some remote town or county where they&#039;ve never lived or had family. It&#039;s not usually that they like a more rural and quiet life. 

Nonetheless, even those officers on the lower end of the curve provide an essential public service that requires courage, commitment, and all to often personal sacrifice on behalf of others. Only the churlish begrudge those officers their salaries and hard won benefits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be the first to admit there are some dumb cops out there. All you need to do is watch an old program called &#8220;top cops&#8221; to see them.  I think it also depends on where an officer works and how well they&#8217;re educated. There&#8217;s a reason some people who desire a law enforcement career have to take a police job in some remote town or county where they&#8217;ve never lived or had family. It&#8217;s not usually that they like a more rural and quiet life. </p>
<p>Nonetheless, even those officers on the lower end of the curve provide an essential public service that requires courage, commitment, and all to often personal sacrifice on behalf of others. Only the churlish begrudge those officers their salaries and hard won benefits.</p>
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		By: Tough Love		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/05/15/yes-govt-pensions-can-be-completely-canceled/#comment-11577</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tough Love]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 23:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Skippy,  You know with all that talk of the lack of qualified candidates being justification for the very high police pay levels, I thought you&#039;d like this article (link below).  You&#039;ll note that the average IQ of a policeman is 104, just slightly above the population average.

So much for the Best &#038; Brightest justification.  Been tested lately?

http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/01/court-oks-barring-smart-people-from-beco]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Skippy,  You know with all that talk of the lack of qualified candidates being justification for the very high police pay levels, I thought you&#8217;d like this article (link below).  You&#8217;ll note that the average IQ of a policeman is 104, just slightly above the population average.</p>
<p>So much for the Best &amp; Brightest justification.  Been tested lately?</p>
<p><a href="http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/01/court-oks-barring-smart-people-from-beco" rel="nofollow ugc">http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/01/court-oks-barring-smart-people-from-beco</a></p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/05/15/yes-govt-pensions-can-be-completely-canceled/#comment-11576</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 22:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All you have to do to qualify for a public pension is to work a lengthy period of time for a government organization that participates in a pension program, us citizen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you have to do to qualify for a public pension is to work a lengthy period of time for a government organization that participates in a pension program, us citizen.</p>
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