Maybe the “Core city” used were the City Limits which would include annexations?

Is THIS your argument?– If we didn’t have the act, we would not have to Commission or the process and we could build whatever not-to-code or unsustainible crap we wanted, therefore there would be more cheesey development, therefore supply would be up and therefore cheaper housing?

I hope that’s only my straw man and not the way you truly think.

Yeah– right— I am still waiting for any evidence….zzzzzzzzzzzzz…..

Ted: Reduce supply and cost must rise. It’s Econ. 101.

Your “pretty good tools” are socialist suppression of property rights, benefiting only a few rich people and environmentalists (usually the same people) along the coast, of whom one was the late Peter Douglas. The rest of us suffer in Kleenex-box sized apartments, albeit with great weather, or leave.

— John Seiler

Consider…..I have a friend who lives in Fullerton, a mile west of downtown at the foot of the Fullerton hills. It’s a wonderful neighborhood. But proceed south on Euclid a half mile, beyond the train tracks, and the neighborhood turns cheesy. Cross the 91 and it becomes horrid.

Take a look at a map of Orange County. Look at the center of the county, roughly bound, in counter-clockwise fashion, by the 405, 55, 91, and 605. Apart from a few outposts like Orange, do you see anywhere in that circle you would contemplate actually living? Everything within that circle is a toilet…..and that’s basically half of Orange County! (I’m talking to YOU Anaheim, and Santa Ana, and Westminister, and Stanton, and Garden Grove….)

And don’t even get me started on how much of LA County is a complete s-hole.

i don’t think thatthe coastal act is your problem. In any case, we only have one coast to steward while we are alive and the act gives us some pretty good tools. (God Bless you Peter D…).

— John Seiler