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		By: Steve Hart		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/05/meredith-whitney-doubts-ca-recovery/#comment-12364</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Hart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Comparing moves in GDP between gigantic California and tiny Louisiana? Really? This now passes as cogent economic analysis these days?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing moves in GDP between gigantic California and tiny Louisiana? Really? This now passes as cogent economic analysis these days?</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/05/meredith-whitney-doubts-ca-recovery/#comment-12363</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One other point, Donkey, before I retire for the evening.  When the air traffic controllers of PATCO went on strike, they all knew they were engaging in a clearly illegal activity that would likely be used to terminate them from federal service.  They were repeatedly warned about the consequences of their action before they decided to ignore those warnings and engage in an unlawful strike.

No rational person believes that essential government personnel should be able to engage in strike behavior to achieve their labor goals.  I have never believed anyone who performs essential safety services, such as law enforcement, fire suppression, or medical response, should have the right to engage in strike actions, and our laws reflect that prohibition as well.

On the other hand, for all of his posturing about &quot;government being the problem,&quot; Ronald Reagan expanded the government more than any of his predecessors.  He also signed the legislation that gave amnesty to millions of aliens illegally in the country and really did double our national debt during his presidency.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other point, Donkey, before I retire for the evening.  When the air traffic controllers of PATCO went on strike, they all knew they were engaging in a clearly illegal activity that would likely be used to terminate them from federal service.  They were repeatedly warned about the consequences of their action before they decided to ignore those warnings and engage in an unlawful strike.</p>
<p>No rational person believes that essential government personnel should be able to engage in strike behavior to achieve their labor goals.  I have never believed anyone who performs essential safety services, such as law enforcement, fire suppression, or medical response, should have the right to engage in strike actions, and our laws reflect that prohibition as well.</p>
<p>On the other hand, for all of his posturing about &#8220;government being the problem,&#8221; Ronald Reagan expanded the government more than any of his predecessors.  He also signed the legislation that gave amnesty to millions of aliens illegally in the country and really did double our national debt during his presidency.</p>
<p><a href="http://zfacts.com/p/318.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://zfacts.com/p/318.html</a></p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/05/meredith-whitney-doubts-ca-recovery/#comment-12362</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 03:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reagan was elected Governor in 1966 and signed the MMB legislation in 1969.  Edmund Brown Sr. had nothing to do with it, Donkey.  Legislation didn&#039;t sit around for three years, even in those days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reagan was elected Governor in 1966 and signed the MMB legislation in 1969.  Edmund Brown Sr. had nothing to do with it, Donkey.  Legislation didn&#8217;t sit around for three years, even in those days.</p>
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		By: The Ted Methodologies		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/05/meredith-whitney-doubts-ca-recovery/#comment-12361</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Ted Methodologies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 21:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Duncey,

Ragas  has two r&#039;s in it?

Is that for Ronald Reagan?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncey,</p>
<p>Ragas  has two r&#8217;s in it?</p>
<p>Is that for Ronald Reagan?</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/05/meredith-whitney-doubts-ca-recovery/#comment-12360</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 06:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ed the Independent Contractor, RAGWUS: Robert Rizzo And Government Worker Union Scam. 

  Skdog, you know that the Union Bill Ronald Reagan signed was written during and passed while Jerry&#039;s dad was governor. Sure Reagan signed the bill, mayber he knew what was in it, and then again maybe not, but we do know that he would not have put up with the greed that has taken place in the last 25 years, you can ask the air traffic workers how Reagan felt about government feeders misbehaving.  

   UU, it is a slow death, death by a thousand cuts, but with each cut the speed is increasing.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed the Independent Contractor, RAGWUS: Robert Rizzo And Government Worker Union Scam. </p>
<p>  Skdog, you know that the Union Bill Ronald Reagan signed was written during and passed while Jerry&#8217;s dad was governor. Sure Reagan signed the bill, mayber he knew what was in it, and then again maybe not, but we do know that he would not have put up with the greed that has taken place in the last 25 years, you can ask the air traffic workers how Reagan felt about government feeders misbehaving.  </p>
<p>   UU, it is a slow death, death by a thousand cuts, but with each cut the speed is increasing.  🙂</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/05/meredith-whitney-doubts-ca-recovery/#comment-12359</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 02:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Donkey has been preaching slow death slow death.   Gloom........oh my......Drats!   When is the doomsday already...Brown and Perez say we are in tip top shape.......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donkey has been preaching slow death slow death.   Gloom&#8230;&#8230;..oh my&#8230;&#8230;Drats!   When is the doomsday already&#8230;Brown and Perez say we are in tip top shape&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: The Ted Understanding Machinees		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/05/meredith-whitney-doubts-ca-recovery/#comment-12358</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Ted Understanding Machinees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 00:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lol. Yes skip, Merideth is an infamous predictor! Pretty much about as accurate as old Rex the poodle before her name change! 0 for 14 (tm) !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol. Yes skip, Merideth is an infamous predictor! Pretty much about as accurate as old Rex the poodle before her name change! 0 for 14 &#8482; !</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/05/meredith-whitney-doubts-ca-recovery/#comment-12357</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 22:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ed - While there are certainly pension spiking abuses, I&#039;d love to see the real numbers on the fire captain you cite in your post.  If his agency was part of CalPERS or most of the 1937 Act agencies, he can&#039;t spike his pensionable income through overtime or leave conversions.  There are a few counties and cities where this has been possible, but even they are taking steps to make sure it doesn&#039;t continue.

As to your claim about Jerry Brown and public unions, most public employees in California are municipal and county employees such as police officers, fire fighters, sheriffs deputies, planning directors, city managers, clerks, etc.  Those groups received the right to form unions and bargain collectively for wages, hours, and working conditions in 1969, when Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Meyers-Milias-Brown Act into law.  

State employees were given the same right of collective bargaining a few years later when Gov. Jerry Brown signed the Dills Act and HEERA (for teachers) into law.

Even Ronald Reagan supported the right of your local public service employees to form unions and bargain for their salary and benefits.  It good to have an accurate understanding of history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed &#8211; While there are certainly pension spiking abuses, I&#8217;d love to see the real numbers on the fire captain you cite in your post.  If his agency was part of CalPERS or most of the 1937 Act agencies, he can&#8217;t spike his pensionable income through overtime or leave conversions.  There are a few counties and cities where this has been possible, but even they are taking steps to make sure it doesn&#8217;t continue.</p>
<p>As to your claim about Jerry Brown and public unions, most public employees in California are municipal and county employees such as police officers, fire fighters, sheriffs deputies, planning directors, city managers, clerks, etc.  Those groups received the right to form unions and bargain collectively for wages, hours, and working conditions in 1969, when Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Meyers-Milias-Brown Act into law.  </p>
<p>State employees were given the same right of collective bargaining a few years later when Gov. Jerry Brown signed the Dills Act and HEERA (for teachers) into law.</p>
<p>Even Ronald Reagan supported the right of your local public service employees to form unions and bargain for their salary and benefits.  It good to have an accurate understanding of history.</p>
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		By: Ed the Independent Contractor		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/05/meredith-whitney-doubts-ca-recovery/#comment-12356</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed the Independent Contractor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your comments would be a great deal easier to follow if you would stop using terms like RAGWUS. What does that mean? I assume that it means something with regards to tax and spend democrats. 
I interact with people all the time and I find that the rank and file state employees are not getting rich on pensions. The public safety folks are hogging the trough. In recent days, I met a retired fire captain who gets $187,000/yr in pension. This is ridiculous. This person would have an appropriate pension at about half that amount. Plus all his and his spouses medical costs for life are free. I&#039;ve met prison guards, not management who are receiving $90,000/yr in pension. Jerry Brown certified the public employee unions in the 1970s and it has all been downhill from there. The incestuous relationship of the Democratic politicians getting the support and funding of the public employee unions then turning around and approving new contracts for the unions. No new contracts no money for the Democratic candidates and the measures they approve. This is now a death spiral. It is just a matter of time until it collapses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments would be a great deal easier to follow if you would stop using terms like RAGWUS. What does that mean? I assume that it means something with regards to tax and spend democrats.<br />
I interact with people all the time and I find that the rank and file state employees are not getting rich on pensions. The public safety folks are hogging the trough. In recent days, I met a retired fire captain who gets $187,000/yr in pension. This is ridiculous. This person would have an appropriate pension at about half that amount. Plus all his and his spouses medical costs for life are free. I&#8217;ve met prison guards, not management who are receiving $90,000/yr in pension. Jerry Brown certified the public employee unions in the 1970s and it has all been downhill from there. The incestuous relationship of the Democratic politicians getting the support and funding of the public employee unions then turning around and approving new contracts for the unions. No new contracts no money for the Democratic candidates and the measures they approve. This is now a death spiral. It is just a matter of time until it collapses.</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/05/meredith-whitney-doubts-ca-recovery/#comment-12355</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 13:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Skdog, and that is all you care about, letting California die a slow death so you can keep your ill-gotten gains. Instead of admitting the RAGWUS has gone too far in raping the taxpayers of this state and help find a solution, your only concern is keeping what you have been able to steal.  And that is where we are today, the point where the feeders that have are sticking it to everyone else, even the feeders that follow.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skdog, and that is all you care about, letting California die a slow death so you can keep your ill-gotten gains. Instead of admitting the RAGWUS has gone too far in raping the taxpayers of this state and help find a solution, your only concern is keeping what you have been able to steal.  And that is where we are today, the point where the feeders that have are sticking it to everyone else, even the feeders that follow.  🙂</p>
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