OMG, Steve just got laid out for the 10-count John.

I myself never knew this. Good find.

The reason we need immigration reform is not about the borders. If you want to close the borders, I can live with that, even though it refutes everything the Statue of Liberty represents.

The real issue is what to do with the 11 million undocumented people and their families who are already here. The anti-reform people seem to only have three possible solutions: 1) Throw the lot of them in jail, 2) Bus them all to the border and dump them into Mexico, or 3) Continue to keep them in the shadows by denying them the opportunity to get decent jobs, education and health care. I cannot see how keeping this population poor, uneducated and sick helps our country in any way.

Which one of these do you choose, John?

As to Cesar Chavez, you know damn well what he spent his life fighting against. Hint: It wasn’t illegal immigrants, it was the landowners and farm conglomerates that were abusing thousands of farm workers and taking away their basic rights.

Here’s what Chavez testified before the U.S. Congress in 1979:

“For so many years we have been involved in agricultural strikes; organizing almost 30 years as a worker, as an organizer, and as president of the union–and for all these almost 30 years it is apparent that when the farm workers strike and their strike is successful, the employers go to Mexico and have unlimited, unrestricted use of illegal alien strikebreakers to break the strike. And, for over 30 years, the Immigration and Naturalization Service has looked the other way and assisted in the strikebreaking.

“I do not remember one single instance in 30 years where the Immigration service has removed strikebreakers…. The employers use professional smugglers to recruit and transport human contraband across the Mexican border for the specific act of strikebreaking….

“We have observed all these years the Immigration Service has a policy as it has been related to us, that they will not take sides in any agricultural labor dispute…. They have not taken sides means permitting the growers to have unrestricted use of illegal aliens as strikebreakers, and if that isn’t taking sides, I don’t know what taking sides means.”

Source: http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=3&psid=610

— John Seiler

So tell us, Steve, why are you so happy that the environmentalists have cut off the water to the Central Growing Region and farms are going to fallow? Is it because the so-called “rich” farmers are now poor and/or bankrupt?

Steve personifies the liberal mindset: don’t try to help the workers become better so they can improve their lives and increase their own wealth. No, no. Punish the “rich” people. Take away what they have and throw them into the street because they deserve it.

It doesn’t matter how many workers are now unemployed and how many farmers are now broke. The people cost is irrelevant. What’s important is that the “rich” people were punished. Who else it hurts and how many people suffer as a result doesn’t matter. Punishment is all that’s important to a liberal.

That’s why California is in the economic shape it’s in. Too many liberals hell-bent on punishing everyone they think is a little better off than someone else. Only when everyone is equally poor and equally punished will the libs be happy. And that’s got to stop if California is going to survive.
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