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		By: Tilly		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/13/northsouth-ca-intensify-water-war/#comment-44038</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tilly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 08:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is all about getting water the So Cal.  The reason that the San Joaquin Valley needs this is because 80% of the water from the San Joaquin river goes to So Cal.  So Cal had to give up some of the water they stole from the Owens River so that Mono Lake could recover some.  So they want what they lost and then some and they are going to take from the Delta.  I think that So Cal should only be able to build more housing if they build cisterns to go large enough to provide water each development.  Oh. Wait.  The Metropolitan Water district wouldn&#039;t like that.  They wouldn&#039;t get any of the revenue.  

This is all about greed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all about getting water the So Cal.  The reason that the San Joaquin Valley needs this is because 80% of the water from the San Joaquin river goes to So Cal.  So Cal had to give up some of the water they stole from the Owens River so that Mono Lake could recover some.  So they want what they lost and then some and they are going to take from the Delta.  I think that So Cal should only be able to build more housing if they build cisterns to go large enough to provide water each development.  Oh. Wait.  The Metropolitan Water district wouldn&#8217;t like that.  They wouldn&#8217;t get any of the revenue.  </p>
<p>This is all about greed.</p>
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		By: Karen Medders		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/13/northsouth-ca-intensify-water-war/#comment-12584</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Medders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 02:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been involved in this fiasco for 5 years now, prior to that I was born and raised in Northern California.  Your article is some of the most biased BS I&#039;ve read in a while.

Your a reporter, do you not understand or know about Area of Origin laws guaranteed in our Constitution???  Do you not know that Westland Water District are federal junior water rights holders, with contracts that specifically state they are only entitled to EXCESS water not needed in Northern California??

Every last California citizen is going to get boo-roo&#039;d in this...we&#039;ll be left to foot the bill and everyone except the Resnicks, MWD, WWD and Feinstein and her crony crowd, will be scrambling for water to get by.  Once this precious recourse is fast-tracked into Kern County Water Bank...guess what folks???  They own and control that water...who gets it, IF they get it and just how much through the nose we&#039;ll be paying for it.

Public Trust Doctrine???  Not in this state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been involved in this fiasco for 5 years now, prior to that I was born and raised in Northern California.  Your article is some of the most biased BS I&#8217;ve read in a while.</p>
<p>Your a reporter, do you not understand or know about Area of Origin laws guaranteed in our Constitution???  Do you not know that Westland Water District are federal junior water rights holders, with contracts that specifically state they are only entitled to EXCESS water not needed in Northern California??</p>
<p>Every last California citizen is going to get boo-roo&#8217;d in this&#8230;we&#8217;ll be left to foot the bill and everyone except the Resnicks, MWD, WWD and Feinstein and her crony crowd, will be scrambling for water to get by.  Once this precious recourse is fast-tracked into Kern County Water Bank&#8230;guess what folks???  They own and control that water&#8230;who gets it, IF they get it and just how much through the nose we&#8217;ll be paying for it.</p>
<p>Public Trust Doctrine???  Not in this state.</p>
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		By: Wayne Lusvardi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 14:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hondo

There is enough rainfall on average in California to support a population of 1 billion people, ample water for the environment, and for farming. Problem is that water is a political football.  Water is used as a political lever to gain compromise on non-water related matters. Let&#039;s say the Democratic legislature wants to raise taxes on those who live in Republican suburbs. Just shut the spigot off to Central Valley farmers and that will put pressure on Republicans to compromise on taxes affecting Republican suburbs. That is why water is a perpetual water war in California.  California could solve its water problem but not its political problems.  

Northern California is no different than Southern California. They want levee projects to build new residential subdivisions. Southern Cal has its Los Angeles Aqueduct; Northern Cal its Hetch Hetchy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hondo</p>
<p>There is enough rainfall on average in California to support a population of 1 billion people, ample water for the environment, and for farming. Problem is that water is a political football.  Water is used as a political lever to gain compromise on non-water related matters. Let&#8217;s say the Democratic legislature wants to raise taxes on those who live in Republican suburbs. Just shut the spigot off to Central Valley farmers and that will put pressure on Republicans to compromise on taxes affecting Republican suburbs. That is why water is a perpetual water war in California.  California could solve its water problem but not its political problems.  </p>
<p>Northern California is no different than Southern California. They want levee projects to build new residential subdivisions. Southern Cal has its Los Angeles Aqueduct; Northern Cal its Hetch Hetchy.</p>
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		By: Hondo		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/13/northsouth-ca-intensify-water-war/#comment-12582</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 00:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I grew up in SoCal.  I grew up in La Puente and West Covina.  Our family belonged to a private swim club ( we swam against Sandy Neilsen from El Monte who won 3 golds at the Munich Olympics).  We all had good sized lawns that we kids watered and mowed.  None of us had any idea where the water came from.  That was back in the 60&#039;s.  
Since then SoCal has grown exponantially.  The rivers in SoCal are bone dry.  We used to ride mini-bikes up and down the Los Angeles and Santa Ana rivers.  The cops used to chase us.
Since then I&#039;ve lived all over the west and have worked on farms irrigating hay fields, both by flood and pipe irrigation.  I have learned where water comes from and how farmers and cities and counties and states fight over water.  I manage property now and water management is a big deal.  
Water law is as complicated as Obamacare is, probably more so.  I can&#039;t speak to the law, but I do know that in the west we don&#039;t have near enough water to waste.  We aren&#039;t getting less people demanding water, always more.  
People and politicians in SoCal look to NoCal and see excess water but it is all spoken for.  All of it.
The liberals demand endless immigration to California, both legal and illegal.  But then complain about urban sprawl and developers.  Just where are those people supposed to live?  And where are they going to get the water they need, let alone desire?
I commend Wayne Lusvardi and the the rest of the staff for focusing on this boring but critically important issue.  It&#039;s not near as sexy as the movie &#039;Chinatown&#039;.  But no issue is more important.
Hondo......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in SoCal.  I grew up in La Puente and West Covina.  Our family belonged to a private swim club ( we swam against Sandy Neilsen from El Monte who won 3 golds at the Munich Olympics).  We all had good sized lawns that we kids watered and mowed.  None of us had any idea where the water came from.  That was back in the 60&#8217;s.<br />
Since then SoCal has grown exponantially.  The rivers in SoCal are bone dry.  We used to ride mini-bikes up and down the Los Angeles and Santa Ana rivers.  The cops used to chase us.<br />
Since then I&#8217;ve lived all over the west and have worked on farms irrigating hay fields, both by flood and pipe irrigation.  I have learned where water comes from and how farmers and cities and counties and states fight over water.  I manage property now and water management is a big deal.<br />
Water law is as complicated as Obamacare is, probably more so.  I can&#8217;t speak to the law, but I do know that in the west we don&#8217;t have near enough water to waste.  We aren&#8217;t getting less people demanding water, always more.<br />
People and politicians in SoCal look to NoCal and see excess water but it is all spoken for.  All of it.<br />
The liberals demand endless immigration to California, both legal and illegal.  But then complain about urban sprawl and developers.  Just where are those people supposed to live?  And where are they going to get the water they need, let alone desire?<br />
I commend Wayne Lusvardi and the the rest of the staff for focusing on this boring but critically important issue.  It&#8217;s not near as sexy as the movie &#8216;Chinatown&#8217;.  But no issue is more important.<br />
Hondo&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Wayne Lusvardi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 16:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HONDO
SAME FOR NORTHERN CAL

IT SHOULDN&#039;T GET ANY WATER AT ALL UNTIL IT STOPS ASKING SOUTHERN CAL TO POP MONEY FOR DELTA LEVEES THAT ARE NOTHING BUT A SUBTERFUGE FOR WATER WASTING REAL ESTATE SUBDIVISIONS

READ &quot;BOXER&#039;S LEVEE BILL IS A REAL ESTATE PORK BARREL&quot; 
http://www.calwatchdog.com/2013/05/17/boxers-delta-levee-bill-is-real-estate-pork-barrel/

THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENT]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HONDO<br />
SAME FOR NORTHERN CAL</p>
<p>IT SHOULDN&#8217;T GET ANY WATER AT ALL UNTIL IT STOPS ASKING SOUTHERN CAL TO POP MONEY FOR DELTA LEVEES THAT ARE NOTHING BUT A SUBTERFUGE FOR WATER WASTING REAL ESTATE SUBDIVISIONS</p>
<p>READ &#8220;BOXER&#8217;S LEVEE BILL IS A REAL ESTATE PORK BARREL&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.calwatchdog.com/2013/05/17/boxers-delta-levee-bill-is-real-estate-pork-barrel/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.calwatchdog.com/2013/05/17/boxers-delta-levee-bill-is-real-estate-pork-barrel/</a></p>
<p>THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENT</p>
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		By: Hondo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Southern cal shouldn&#039;t get any water till all the private wealthy golf courses are shut down (or turned into petting zoos or public parks like in the movie &#039;Falling Down&#039;)and all the swimming pools in the wealthy neighborhoods drained and all their lawns are turned into rock gardens.  SoCal simply doesn&#039;t have a fraction of the water it needs to keep up with their life style.  They should get what they NEED, not what they desire.
Hondo....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Southern cal shouldn&#8217;t get any water till all the private wealthy golf courses are shut down (or turned into petting zoos or public parks like in the movie &#8216;Falling Down&#8217;)and all the swimming pools in the wealthy neighborhoods drained and all their lawns are turned into rock gardens.  SoCal simply doesn&#8217;t have a fraction of the water it needs to keep up with their life style.  They should get what they NEED, not what they desire.<br />
Hondo&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Wayne Lusvardi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 08:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOOK: THE REASON THAT THERE ARE TUNNELS INSTEAD OF A SURFACE CANAL IS THAT DELTA FARMERS WOULD TIE UP ANY CANAL PROJECT WITH CEQA AND EMINENT DOMAIN LAWSUITS FOR YEARS.  TUNNELS ARE A POLITICAL AND LEGAL NECESSITY THAT RAISES THE COST IMMENSELY.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOOK: THE REASON THAT THERE ARE TUNNELS INSTEAD OF A SURFACE CANAL IS THAT DELTA FARMERS WOULD TIE UP ANY CANAL PROJECT WITH CEQA AND EMINENT DOMAIN LAWSUITS FOR YEARS.  TUNNELS ARE A POLITICAL AND LEGAL NECESSITY THAT RAISES THE COST IMMENSELY.</p>
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		By: Wayne Lusvardi		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/06/13/northsouth-ca-intensify-water-war/#comment-12578</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oversimplification?  Northern California is driving the Tunnel proposal?  And I guess fish can fly over the Delta too?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oversimplification?  Northern California is driving the Tunnel proposal?  And I guess fish can fly over the Delta too?</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This article paints a false dichotomy of north vs south, and ascribes all interest groups to one or the other camp.  This is ridiculous oversimplification.  The delta farmers are as annoyed about the environmental challenges to water use as the SoCal consumers.  The tunnel plan is a &quot;northern CA&quot; concept, if by that you mean that Jerry Brown is driving it out of Sacramento, but otherwise, I don&#039;t hear shouts of joy from the delta. By the way, I&#039;ve been informed that my bay area (and thus NorCal) water district will pay extra to fund the tunnels, too.  We&#039;re all in this stupid plan together.  Who likes it besides the environmentalists and Jerry Brown?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article paints a false dichotomy of north vs south, and ascribes all interest groups to one or the other camp.  This is ridiculous oversimplification.  The delta farmers are as annoyed about the environmental challenges to water use as the SoCal consumers.  The tunnel plan is a &#8220;northern CA&#8221; concept, if by that you mean that Jerry Brown is driving it out of Sacramento, but otherwise, I don&#8217;t hear shouts of joy from the delta. By the way, I&#8217;ve been informed that my bay area (and thus NorCal) water district will pay extra to fund the tunnels, too.  We&#8217;re all in this stupid plan together.  Who likes it besides the environmentalists and Jerry Brown?</p>
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