Comments on: New attack on Prop. 13; may pass Assembly today

By: Bob

Bob — Thu, 23 Apr 2015 00:09:25 +0000

It seeems that the practice of assigning school bonds and special assessments “below the line” is already being done in Ventura County. In a recent RE inquiry I got a copy of a seller’s 2014 tax bill and noted that all the school bonds and special assessments were being charged the property owner in addition to the 1% under Prop13. I realized this was not proper because I have paid property taxes in CA since before Howard Jarvis in San Dielgo County. That county itemizes the school bonds correctly showing the school bonds are paid as a consequence of the 1% tax. Not so for Ventura County..

The same tax bill on the Oxnard parcel showed a total tax bill of over $12,000 annually on current assessed value of about 1.2M.
Nothing obviously wrong there until one reviews the property tax history of ownership showing the same owner currently holding the property has held it since 1994. I bet he did not buy the property for 1.2m in 1994. Was there a discrete and non-conforming re-assessment of property in Ventura causing his property tax bill to be so high, or is there an alternate explanation? Can’t wait to the comments on this one.

By: Queeg

Queeg — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 04:12:28 +0000

Touchee Donkey…..did you wake up wearing a white coat?

We understand!

By: Donkey

Donkey — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:11:21 +0000

Mehlman, stop with your inderect lies! The informed people on this blog know that a tax increase passed on to a corporate land owner is then passed on to the purchaserof their product or service. Lower property taxes are good for all citizens, with the exception of the RAGWUS feeders, you know, the government parasites that are only out for themselves!! :
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By: Maureen

Maureen — Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:15:53 +0000

I hear a lot of people that want a split roll for taxes. Let me tell you what will happen to me as a non corporation commercial property owner who makes very little off renting my property (2.5 acres industrial property for horticultural purposes).
My taxes will go up from $8,000/year to $30,000/year. Either my renters pay the difference (2 small businesses) or I loose my property to the state–as I don’t make enough money off rent to cover the additional taxes. Not everybody is Disneyland that will just raise the ticket prices another $10 per person to cover the extra tax.
Small businesses will be devastated & most of the commercial property owners & renters are small business. Last I heard only 20% were large business but I am not sure of that figure.

By: Steve Mehlman

Steve Mehlman — Sun, 16 Jun 2013 17:03:12 +0000

Taxusless (or is it actually Taxuseless?),just wondering if you said anything back in the day about how Prop. 13 would allow large corporations to pay the same tax rate as my grandmother? That was NOT what the people wanted then, and it sure isn’t what they want now. If the people knew back then that Prop. 13 was not just about helping residential homeowners, the results might have been different.

By: Donkey

Donkey — Sun, 16 Jun 2013 00:50:46 +0000

Queeg, your other moniker was mooch, right? 🙂

By: taxusless

taxusless — Sat, 15 Jun 2013 12:57:10 +0000

I worked with Howard and Paul on prop 13 and we only did what the people wanted. Jerry Brown and his buddies are doing everything they can to get back at us since he was opposed to us in 1978 when the public was showing tremendous support for it! He will dismantle it piece by piece while the nieve liberals will champion him for ballancing the budget because they will still receive their 1% of assesed value on their property taxes: (until he can find a way to take that away! Thes neophites don’t realiz the tremendous gift we gave to them when we passed this legislaion in 1978! The politicians call sill tax them all they want, and always could, we just gave the property owners a voice in the process to help them control spending? What is so evil about that????

By: Queeg

Queeg — Sat, 15 Jun 2013 05:02:49 +0000

What a miserable site……coastal loon taxers vs skinflint trailer park doomers.

By: Wayne White

Wayne White — Sat, 15 Jun 2013 04:21:45 +0000

Of course polls show that folks want to tax corporations. That’s because they don’t realize that every tax that they pay is passed on to the consumer! You can’t tax corporations. Any corporate tax results in the consumer being saddled with higher prices. I love how the tax and spend crowd always uses that “fair share” to justify tax increases. Oh well, businesses and private citizens are already leaving California like rats on a sinking ship anyway. If California is to be saved it will be when all legislators realize that we need to COMPETE with other states for business, both on taxes and on restrictions.

By: Steve Mehlman

Steve Mehlman — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 23:42:22 +0000

The same poll showed that a majority of taxpayers favor a split roll for Prop. 13, so that large corporations pay their fair share of property taxes. Somehow Mr. Wolfe neglected to mention that. LOL.