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		By: Rex the Wonderdog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/07/09/good-bart-strike-backfires-badly-for-unions/#comment-13297</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonderdog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2013 05:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You guys are fanatically obsessed with this step raise idea. A new worker in a position starts out at a REDUCED PAY RATE. 76% of full pay. 
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Totally false. They start out at FULL PAY with step increases, they do NOT start at a fractional rate, jeeezzz dougie, stop spinning ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are fanatically obsessed with this step raise idea. A new worker in a position starts out at a REDUCED PAY RATE. 76% of full pay.<br />
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Totally false. They start out at FULL PAY with step increases, they do NOT start at a fractional rate, jeeezzz dougie, stop spinning 😉</p>
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		By: S Moderation Douglas		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/07/09/good-bart-strike-backfires-badly-for-unions/#comment-13296</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Moderation Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2013 04:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Fox &#038; Hounds piece also leaves out the “step” raises many get just for years on the job.
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You guys are fanatically obsessed with this step raise idea. A new worker in a position starts out at a REDUCED PAY RATE. 76% of full pay. It takes four years to reach 100% pay for that position. That&#039;s four &quot;step raises&quot;. If it bothers you so much,pay them top pay to start with, so the new guy with no experience makes as much as a twenty year vet. 

Please don&#039;t attempt to imply that the twenty year employee got twenty &quot;step raises&quot;, in addition to any COLAs that might be negotiated. 

It didn&#039;t happen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fox &amp; Hounds piece also leaves out the “step” raises many get just for years on the job.<br />
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You guys are fanatically obsessed with this step raise idea. A new worker in a position starts out at a REDUCED PAY RATE. 76% of full pay. It takes four years to reach 100% pay for that position. That&#8217;s four &#8220;step raises&#8221;. If it bothers you so much,pay them top pay to start with, so the new guy with no experience makes as much as a twenty year vet. </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t attempt to imply that the twenty year employee got twenty &#8220;step raises&#8221;, in addition to any COLAs that might be negotiated. </p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t happen</p>
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		By: Elevate?		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/07/09/good-bart-strike-backfires-badly-for-unions/#comment-13295</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elevate?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2013 02:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ed, give us you full name and job specifications.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, give us you full name and job specifications.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonderdog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/07/09/good-bart-strike-backfires-badly-for-unions/#comment-13294</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonderdog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If what you’re paying your employees is somehow out of line with the local labor market, if it’s not necessary for recruitment and retention, then you have a problem of waste. These six-figure pensions at the state and local level are pushing governments to the brink of bankruptcy. It’s completely wasteful. You have to create pension programs that are more affordable and fair, where you treat government employees no different than private sector employees. Government needs to start setting its salary and benefits in line with the local labor market.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If what you’re paying your employees is somehow out of line with the local labor market, if it’s not necessary for recruitment and retention, then you have a problem of waste. These six-figure pensions at the state and local level are pushing governments to the brink of bankruptcy. It’s completely wasteful. You have to create pension programs that are more affordable and fair, where you treat government employees no different than private sector employees. Government needs to start setting its salary and benefits in line with the local labor market.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonderdog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/07/09/good-bart-strike-backfires-badly-for-unions/#comment-13293</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonderdog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The funny thing is every word this Ed clown wrote is exactly why the average American is poor, and getting worse everyday, b/c some greedy, SMALL section of GOVERMENT troughers have become ultra greedy and want to TAKE from US so they can live a life of luxury on the backs of the poor. They pay NOTHING into their pensions, not a dime, yet Ed and is commie buddies want MORE, from others who do not even have 1/10th of what BART workers have. Scam central. BTW Ed, why should YOU get 10 times what the poor gets and please let us know HOW your scamming helps the poor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is every word this Ed clown wrote is exactly why the average American is poor, and getting worse everyday, b/c some greedy, SMALL section of GOVERMENT troughers have become ultra greedy and want to TAKE from US so they can live a life of luxury on the backs of the poor. They pay NOTHING into their pensions, not a dime, yet Ed and is commie buddies want MORE, from others who do not even have 1/10th of what BART workers have. Scam central. BTW Ed, why should YOU get 10 times what the poor gets and please let us know HOW your scamming helps the poor.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonderdog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/07/09/good-bart-strike-backfires-badly-for-unions/#comment-13292</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonderdog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;BART strike is not about workers’ greed, it is about what every middle class American across this great nation must stand for and support, a decent pay and benefit package to live and raise a family on with dignity and peace of mind - &lt;/b&gt;

LOL......Hahhaha...Ed, trougher extraordinaire, take your BS spine elsewhere, the poor and middle class of America is not buying what you&#039;re peddling, AVERAGE janitor making over $100K at BART!!!!! Hahahhahahaa]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>BART strike is not about workers’ greed, it is about what every middle class American across this great nation must stand for and support, a decent pay and benefit package to live and raise a family on with dignity and peace of mind &#8211; </b></p>
<p>LOL&#8230;&#8230;Hahhaha&#8230;Ed, trougher extraordinaire, take your BS spine elsewhere, the poor and middle class of America is not buying what you&#8217;re peddling, AVERAGE janitor making over $100K at BART!!!!! Hahahhahahaa</p>
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		By: Ed		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/07/09/good-bart-strike-backfires-badly-for-unions/#comment-13291</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 22:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BART strike is not about workers’ greed, it is about what every middle class American across this great nation must stand for and support, a decent pay and benefit package to live and raise a family on with dignity and peace of mind.  This is exactly what is being vilified and tabooed in this nation by the corporate owned media, greedy industrialists, Wall Street bankers and their politician underlings. 
People deserve to make a decent living in this country.  Pitting one group of workers against another is an old and proven colonialist tactic: divide and conquer. Workers must be smarter than to fall for this old ruse. Workers must unite and demand what they deserve.  Ask why is the economy in shambles? Was it because of teachers, transit workers and police officers?  No, it is the result of the greed and reckless behavior of fat cat Wall Street bankers.   Now, the middle class workers are being forced to pay their mistakes. If middle class workers refuse they are labeled as greedy and out of touch with reality. 
The prevailing argument in the media that one or more class of workers do not have, for example, employer sponsored health insurance therefore, BART workers must follow suite, is ludicrous.  This logic is upside down. The argument must about setting BART’s benefit package as a minimum base line for all industries and shame those employers who offer anything less to their workers. Let’s have a race to the top not to the bottom. 
Middle class is being railroaded and trampled upon since the early 1980’s when President Regan fired the flight controllers. The main idea was to roll  back the gains that unions fought for in the last century and take us back to  when workers had no right and were treated inhumanly as fungible and disposable commodities. Is this what we want to revive?  It seems we are taking as granted the very basic and universal work rules that we all enjoy today, like 40- hour work week, two- day weekend, no child labor, lunch break and so on. Where did these rules come from?  I can safely assure you they did not come from employers’ generosity coffer.   Labor unions fought for every one of them over many years and now they have become the universal rules across all industries. Let’ not start down the slippery slope of taking more and more away from the middle class.   
We as a society must decide how do we want to treat our workers. Do we want them to be poor and deprived, not able to afford the very basic necessities of life like health care, education, and above all a decent pension, or do we want to rejuvenate our shrinking middle class and with it bring back the glory days of this country.  Think about it before you criticize BART workers and remember what they gain will eventually be your gain and what they lose will eventually be your loss.  Do not bring down your follow middle class workers. Go out there and elevate yourself by demanding what you deserve and make this a better world for all of us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BART strike is not about workers’ greed, it is about what every middle class American across this great nation must stand for and support, a decent pay and benefit package to live and raise a family on with dignity and peace of mind.  This is exactly what is being vilified and tabooed in this nation by the corporate owned media, greedy industrialists, Wall Street bankers and their politician underlings.<br />
People deserve to make a decent living in this country.  Pitting one group of workers against another is an old and proven colonialist tactic: divide and conquer. Workers must be smarter than to fall for this old ruse. Workers must unite and demand what they deserve.  Ask why is the economy in shambles? Was it because of teachers, transit workers and police officers?  No, it is the result of the greed and reckless behavior of fat cat Wall Street bankers.   Now, the middle class workers are being forced to pay their mistakes. If middle class workers refuse they are labeled as greedy and out of touch with reality.<br />
The prevailing argument in the media that one or more class of workers do not have, for example, employer sponsored health insurance therefore, BART workers must follow suite, is ludicrous.  This logic is upside down. The argument must about setting BART’s benefit package as a minimum base line for all industries and shame those employers who offer anything less to their workers. Let’s have a race to the top not to the bottom.<br />
Middle class is being railroaded and trampled upon since the early 1980’s when President Regan fired the flight controllers. The main idea was to roll  back the gains that unions fought for in the last century and take us back to  when workers had no right and were treated inhumanly as fungible and disposable commodities. Is this what we want to revive?  It seems we are taking as granted the very basic and universal work rules that we all enjoy today, like 40- hour work week, two- day weekend, no child labor, lunch break and so on. Where did these rules come from?  I can safely assure you they did not come from employers’ generosity coffer.   Labor unions fought for every one of them over many years and now they have become the universal rules across all industries. Let’ not start down the slippery slope of taking more and more away from the middle class.<br />
We as a society must decide how do we want to treat our workers. Do we want them to be poor and deprived, not able to afford the very basic necessities of life like health care, education, and above all a decent pension, or do we want to rejuvenate our shrinking middle class and with it bring back the glory days of this country.  Think about it before you criticize BART workers and remember what they gain will eventually be your gain and what they lose will eventually be your loss.  Do not bring down your follow middle class workers. Go out there and elevate yourself by demanding what you deserve and make this a better world for all of us.</p>
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		By: UnTed		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/07/09/good-bart-strike-backfires-badly-for-unions/#comment-13290</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UnTed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No pay raise, no pension period - give them a 401K like the private sector, and they join Obamacare! THAT&#039;s MY FINAL OFFER!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No pay raise, no pension period &#8211; give them a 401K like the private sector, and they join Obamacare! THAT&#8217;s MY FINAL OFFER!</p>
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