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		By: John Seiler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Seiler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2013 03:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-45079&quot;&gt;Steve Mehlman&lt;/a&gt;.

Steve: You have a striking ability to portray the oppressors as the oppressed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-45079">Steve Mehlman</a>.</p>
<p>Steve: You have a striking ability to portray the oppressors as the oppressed.</p>
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		By: LetItCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-45161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetItCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 22:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-45079&quot;&gt;Steve Mehlman&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;As long as the Reeps refuse to moderate on these issues, they will continue to lose.&quot;

And that&#039;s only because the nation has been sold to the leeches and to the billionaire Wall Street crooks who continue to suck the lifeblood out of the middle class producers. 

The middle class working man can no longer compete with the big money from the top 5% who shower the politicians with bribes for votes or with the growing masses of leeches who vote and live for free off the government. People vote for politicians that sweeten their pots for the least amount of effort. Your so-called &quot;moderates&quot; cave to both extremes leaving the middle class working man holding the empty bag. The Republicans have folded and caved on so many issues - to include ObamaCare, immigration reform, debt ceilings, irresponsible budget approvals, higher taxation, Obama&#039;s illegal war in Libya, fiat money printing, etc, etc, etc..... 

Chris Christie is really no fiscal conservative, btw. First off, NJ must balance their budget by law. All NJ governors must balance the budgets. It&#039;s mandated. Christie balanced his budget like California addressed ours. By grossly exaggerating future revenue and underestimating future expenses. And by stealing money from one pot (ie, transportation) to fill another pot (ie, pension fund liabilities). Independent studies have placed NJ&#039;s pension system @ 34% funded. Even the State of NJ claims it&#039;s funded at only 67%. And we know that state&#039;s lie about the amount of their unfunded pension liabilities. Christie did get some concessions from public labor. And that&#039;s to his credit. But it&#039;s far short from making any material difference. Why do you think NJ has amongst the lowest bond rating of any state in the union? When Christie sucked up to Obama during the 2012 presidential campaign and told America what a great guy Obama was - he lost my support forever. 

I refuse to alter my political philosophy and vote for a moderate who bends over for liberals to gain political expedience. That&#039;s a loser&#039;s game. It only results in more damage to the nation. Everybody wants to take the easy road for political expedience. That road only goes so far until it turns into a cliff with a 300 ft dropoff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-45079">Steve Mehlman</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;As long as the Reeps refuse to moderate on these issues, they will continue to lose.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s only because the nation has been sold to the leeches and to the billionaire Wall Street crooks who continue to suck the lifeblood out of the middle class producers. </p>
<p>The middle class working man can no longer compete with the big money from the top 5% who shower the politicians with bribes for votes or with the growing masses of leeches who vote and live for free off the government. People vote for politicians that sweeten their pots for the least amount of effort. Your so-called &#8220;moderates&#8221; cave to both extremes leaving the middle class working man holding the empty bag. The Republicans have folded and caved on so many issues &#8211; to include ObamaCare, immigration reform, debt ceilings, irresponsible budget approvals, higher taxation, Obama&#8217;s illegal war in Libya, fiat money printing, etc, etc, etc&#8230;.. </p>
<p>Chris Christie is really no fiscal conservative, btw. First off, NJ must balance their budget by law. All NJ governors must balance the budgets. It&#8217;s mandated. Christie balanced his budget like California addressed ours. By grossly exaggerating future revenue and underestimating future expenses. And by stealing money from one pot (ie, transportation) to fill another pot (ie, pension fund liabilities). Independent studies have placed NJ&#8217;s pension system @ 34% funded. Even the State of NJ claims it&#8217;s funded at only 67%. And we know that state&#8217;s lie about the amount of their unfunded pension liabilities. Christie did get some concessions from public labor. And that&#8217;s to his credit. But it&#8217;s far short from making any material difference. Why do you think NJ has amongst the lowest bond rating of any state in the union? When Christie sucked up to Obama during the 2012 presidential campaign and told America what a great guy Obama was &#8211; he lost my support forever. </p>
<p>I refuse to alter my political philosophy and vote for a moderate who bends over for liberals to gain political expedience. That&#8217;s a loser&#8217;s game. It only results in more damage to the nation. Everybody wants to take the easy road for political expedience. That road only goes so far until it turns into a cliff with a 300 ft dropoff.</p>
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		By: Steve Mehlman		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-45079</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Mehlman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2013 19:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-44854&quot;&gt;LetItCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

This makes no sense.  In today&#039;s Republican Party, anyone who doesn&#039;t focus on focus on ‘gays, guns and God’ is considered a RINO and a traitor. So who the hell is a moderate and independent voter supposed to vote for?  A right-wing nut?  I don&#039;t think so.  One major reason Cuccinelli lost was because of his far-right positions on reproductive rights, gays, etc.  As long as the Reeps refuse to moderate on these issues, they will continue to lose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-44854">LetItCollapse</a>.</p>
<p>This makes no sense.  In today&#8217;s Republican Party, anyone who doesn&#8217;t focus on focus on ‘gays, guns and God’ is considered a RINO and a traitor. So who the hell is a moderate and independent voter supposed to vote for?  A right-wing nut?  I don&#8217;t think so.  One major reason Cuccinelli lost was because of his far-right positions on reproductive rights, gays, etc.  As long as the Reeps refuse to moderate on these issues, they will continue to lose.</p>
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		By: The Ted Steele Conceptual Abstraction Unit		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-44858</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Ted Steele Conceptual Abstraction Unit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-44823&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said Skip D---  Conservatives no longer care about the Country--If they did the would jettison the tea baggers and get back to Reagan, Nixon and Ike...   winning is all they care about and there is some irony in the fact that they have no idea how to win or that their uber right wing hate filled agenda will be a loser for ever.It is sad because it brings out the worst in the left as well---- and so it goes...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-44823">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>Well said Skip D&#8212;  Conservatives no longer care about the Country&#8211;If they did the would jettison the tea baggers and get back to Reagan, Nixon and Ike&#8230;   winning is all they care about and there is some irony in the fact that they have no idea how to win or that their uber right wing hate filled agenda will be a loser for ever.It is sad because it brings out the worst in the left as well&#8212;- and so it goes&#8230;</p>
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		By: LetItCollapse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetItCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And y&#039;all keep voting for the pres candidates who give away the store, punish producers and reward parasites, promote &#039;inequality under the law&#039;, focus on &#039;gays, guns and God&#039; instead of keeping the nation solvent, sends US jobs overseas, invites indigent foreigners to enter the nation illegally and swipe jobs from American citizens, then rewards them with legal residence, engage military intervention in foreign civil wars we have no business entering into ........ and see what you get as an outcome. 

If all we have left to vote for are liberals and weak-kneed RINOS who are willing to bend over and grab their ankles to further the liberal agenda - this country is living on borrowed time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And y&#8217;all keep voting for the pres candidates who give away the store, punish producers and reward parasites, promote &#8216;inequality under the law&#8217;, focus on &#8216;gays, guns and God&#8217; instead of keeping the nation solvent, sends US jobs overseas, invites indigent foreigners to enter the nation illegally and swipe jobs from American citizens, then rewards them with legal residence, engage military intervention in foreign civil wars we have no business entering into &#8230;&#8230;.. and see what you get as an outcome. </p>
<p>If all we have left to vote for are liberals and weak-kneed RINOS who are willing to bend over and grab their ankles to further the liberal agenda &#8211; this country is living on borrowed time.</p>
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		By: RT		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 15:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The GOP in California is a mess. They have gotten in their current mess the old-fashioned way, they earned it. Where is the GOP on issues? Unless you go on a GOP website, you may have no idea. Who is the face of the GOP? I know they have one, but why are they not on TV, on the radio, and online spreading the message? 
The problem is that the GOP establishment that runs California&#039;s GOP has no idea how to deal with the current political climate in California. They do not know how to compete against the takers and their allies. They continue to moan a little from time to time on a given issue but do little else other than fold up like a cheap lawn chair. The GOP in California needs a new framework that takes a clear stand on taxes and social programs. 
The good news for the GOP in California is that as things gets worse budget wise (and they will) they may become more popular. However, if they do not get their act together, and become a force, the GOP will become much like the Green or Liberation Party, that gets the support of a few loyalists but has no ability to effect change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP in California is a mess. They have gotten in their current mess the old-fashioned way, they earned it. Where is the GOP on issues? Unless you go on a GOP website, you may have no idea. Who is the face of the GOP? I know they have one, but why are they not on TV, on the radio, and online spreading the message?<br />
The problem is that the GOP establishment that runs California&#8217;s GOP has no idea how to deal with the current political climate in California. They do not know how to compete against the takers and their allies. They continue to moan a little from time to time on a given issue but do little else other than fold up like a cheap lawn chair. The GOP in California needs a new framework that takes a clear stand on taxes and social programs.<br />
The good news for the GOP in California is that as things gets worse budget wise (and they will) they may become more popular. However, if they do not get their act together, and become a force, the GOP will become much like the Green or Liberation Party, that gets the support of a few loyalists but has no ability to effect change.</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-44823</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 08:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The important lesson to be learned from the election yesterday is that an extremist Tea Party candidate in a red state can be beaten by a Democratic candidate perceived as far closer to the center of political thought.  The second lesson is that a conservative Republican can win election in a solidly blue state by avoiding the fringe goofballs on the right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The important lesson to be learned from the election yesterday is that an extremist Tea Party candidate in a red state can be beaten by a Democratic candidate perceived as far closer to the center of political thought.  The second lesson is that a conservative Republican can win election in a solidly blue state by avoiding the fringe goofballs on the right.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonderdog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-44810</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonderdog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 06:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Chris Christie is a RINO and...&lt;/b&gt;

Chris Christie is NOT a RINO. He is just like Arnold, Republicans.

They are conservative/Republican on fiscal issues, and more moderate on social issues (though Christie was against gay marriage). That is not a RINO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Chris Christie is a RINO and&#8230;</b></p>
<p>Chris Christie is NOT a RINO. He is just like Arnold, Republicans.</p>
<p>They are conservative/Republican on fiscal issues, and more moderate on social issues (though Christie was against gay marriage). That is not a RINO.</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/11/06/elections-offer-lessons-for-california-gop/#comment-44809</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 06:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is sad hearing the grisly health insurance stories.  Few hospitals, limited doctors, higher deductibles, copays and premiums.

What the heck is good about ACA?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sad hearing the grisly health insurance stories.  Few hospitals, limited doctors, higher deductibles, copays and premiums.</p>
<p>What the heck is good about ACA?</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, CEO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, CEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 04:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOL--  keep dreaming about Obamacare---- wait and watch the Repubs and Liberwhacks eat their young---  Hillary in 16!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8211;  keep dreaming about Obamacare&#8212;- wait and watch the Repubs and Liberwhacks eat their young&#8212;  Hillary in 16!</p>
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