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		By: Gabriele		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-90296</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabriele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 06:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55745&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

I am an under-employed social worker, age 63 and have no insurance.... so I signed up for Covered CA. and was told multiple times that my assets would NOT be taken by a worker when I signed up.  Because my income is below $1300.00 a month, I am forced to be on Medi-Cal.  I am not allowed to pay for the subsidized health ins.  I spoke to a lady at the Sacramento County Medi-Cal Recovery Program today. She states that a lot of people are calling and upset with this little known fact: Anyone 55 and older are subject to the Recovery Program.  The State will come after your assets (home/savings/etc.) after you die.  I am trying to find more work, but am so angry with the government.  How dare they force those of us 55 and older to go on Medi-Cal just because our income is below the $1300.00 mark!  Unfortunately the County employee could not confirm what the Covered CA. guidelines are in regards to taking a Medi-Cal applicant&#039;s assets.  They may or they may not.... does anyone know for sure?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55745">LetitCollapse</a>.</p>
<p>I am an under-employed social worker, age 63 and have no insurance&#8230;. so I signed up for Covered CA. and was told multiple times that my assets would NOT be taken by a worker when I signed up.  Because my income is below $1300.00 a month, I am forced to be on Medi-Cal.  I am not allowed to pay for the subsidized health ins.  I spoke to a lady at the Sacramento County Medi-Cal Recovery Program today. She states that a lot of people are calling and upset with this little known fact: Anyone 55 and older are subject to the Recovery Program.  The State will come after your assets (home/savings/etc.) after you die.  I am trying to find more work, but am so angry with the government.  How dare they force those of us 55 and older to go on Medi-Cal just because our income is below the $1300.00 mark!  Unfortunately the County employee could not confirm what the Covered CA. guidelines are in regards to taking a Medi-Cal applicant&#8217;s assets.  They may or they may not&#8230;. does anyone know for sure?</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-56122</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Collapse... No one reads your Drone Chronicles!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collapse&#8230; No one reads your Drone Chronicles!</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-56121</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 17:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dys....my child your forgiven......atonement and humbleness is so soothing and satisfying for you.....keep evovling...

Teddy......Dys has become reasonable......oh my!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dys&#8230;.my child your forgiven&#8230;&#8230;atonement and humbleness is so soothing and satisfying for you&#8230;..keep evovling&#8230;</p>
<p>Teddy&#8230;&#8230;Dys has become reasonable&#8230;&#8230;oh my!</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55948</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetitCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 06:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55928&quot;&gt;Dyspeptic&lt;/a&gt;.

You seem to be a pretty sensible guy who can figure things out on your own. But let me help you out this one time. If you don&#039;t care for my comments - don&#039;t read them. It&#039;s really that easy. There. Problem solved. Merry Christmas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55928">Dyspeptic</a>.</p>
<p>You seem to be a pretty sensible guy who can figure things out on your own. But let me help you out this one time. If you don&#8217;t care for my comments &#8211; don&#8217;t read them. It&#8217;s really that easy. There. Problem solved. Merry Christmas.</p>
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		By: Dyspeptic		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55933</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dyspeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 06:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We will never get the truth from the Demonrat hacks who run this state. One of the more unfortunate results of living in a one party Libtard state is that the truth is obscured by a thick haze of left wing propaganda passed off as news. 

Since the establishment media in this state leans heavily to the left we can&#039;t depend on them for an honest assessment of current events. Rags like The L.A. Times, Sac. Bee, S.F. Chronicle etc. are in the tank for Obama and the whole &quot;Progressive&quot; agenda and most reporters are just too smug, lazy and ignorant to do their job anyway.

That&#039;s why we read Calwatchdog! A useful antidote to the left wing poison spewed out by the aforementioned suspects. 

You don&#039;t have to be Nostradamus to see where all of this Obamacare hocus pocus will end up. I wonder if there will be any red faces in news rooms across the state when Covered Crazyfornia goes belly up to the shock and dismay of all the clueless stenographers and propagandists masquerading as journalists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will never get the truth from the Demonrat hacks who run this state. One of the more unfortunate results of living in a one party Libtard state is that the truth is obscured by a thick haze of left wing propaganda passed off as news. </p>
<p>Since the establishment media in this state leans heavily to the left we can&#8217;t depend on them for an honest assessment of current events. Rags like The L.A. Times, Sac. Bee, S.F. Chronicle etc. are in the tank for Obama and the whole &#8220;Progressive&#8221; agenda and most reporters are just too smug, lazy and ignorant to do their job anyway.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why we read Calwatchdog! A useful antidote to the left wing poison spewed out by the aforementioned suspects. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to be Nostradamus to see where all of this Obamacare hocus pocus will end up. I wonder if there will be any red faces in news rooms across the state when Covered Crazyfornia goes belly up to the shock and dismay of all the clueless stenographers and propagandists masquerading as journalists.</p>
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		By: Dyspeptic		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55928</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dyspeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 05:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55785&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

Have to agree with Queeg here Collapse. I am generally simpatico with your rants but maybe it&#039;s getting to be too much of a good thing, know what I mean?

Hey Queeg, that&#039;s twice in one day I agree with you. I&#039;m getting a little disoriented. Maybe I should take my meds and go lay down for a bit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55785">LetitCollapse</a>.</p>
<p>Have to agree with Queeg here Collapse. I am generally simpatico with your rants but maybe it&#8217;s getting to be too much of a good thing, know what I mean?</p>
<p>Hey Queeg, that&#8217;s twice in one day I agree with you. I&#8217;m getting a little disoriented. Maybe I should take my meds and go lay down for a bit.</p>
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		By: Dyspeptic		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55926</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dyspeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 05:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55728&quot;&gt;Queeg&lt;/a&gt;.

Queeg, even though I agree with your comment, I still think you need to take your meds and go have a nice long nap.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55728">Queeg</a>.</p>
<p>Queeg, even though I agree with your comment, I still think you need to take your meds and go have a nice long nap.</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55806</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 01:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Collapse take some time off...no mas!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collapse take some time off&#8230;no mas!</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55785</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetitCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 00:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So I read that Covered Ca is bragging that 400,000 people enrolled prior to today&#039;s deadline. Naturally, it doesn&#039;t decipher how many of those 400,000 are getting free health care and how many are paying for it. lol. You don&#039;t need to know those little details anyway. Just keep voting and pay your taxes on time. lol. 

But didn&#039;t I read in a recent CWD article that for every Covered Ca enrollee who paid for their healthcare insurance that 4 others got theirs for free? So doing the math that means based on 400,000 enrollees that 80,000 paid for their insurance and 320,000 got a freebie. That should work out fine. lol.
 
And since California has 38M people the percent of the population enrolled in Covered Ca is a whopping 1.05%. Bang-up job, fellas! You&#039;re really on fire! All of you deserve a raise and a bigger pension formula! Take the next 2 weeks off! lol.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I read that Covered Ca is bragging that 400,000 people enrolled prior to today&#8217;s deadline. Naturally, it doesn&#8217;t decipher how many of those 400,000 are getting free health care and how many are paying for it. lol. You don&#8217;t need to know those little details anyway. Just keep voting and pay your taxes on time. lol. </p>
<p>But didn&#8217;t I read in a recent CWD article that for every Covered Ca enrollee who paid for their healthcare insurance that 4 others got theirs for free? So doing the math that means based on 400,000 enrollees that 80,000 paid for their insurance and 320,000 got a freebie. That should work out fine. lol.</p>
<p>And since California has 38M people the percent of the population enrolled in Covered Ca is a whopping 1.05%. Bang-up job, fellas! You&#8217;re really on fire! All of you deserve a raise and a bigger pension formula! Take the next 2 weeks off! lol.</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/23/dont-trust-covered-california/#comment-55745</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetitCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2013 22:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well it took long enough for the media to find out that ObamaCare was a farce. I thought the mainstream media&#039;s job was to investigate, report and inform in a timely manner? 

How many times was Obama allowed to spew his lie about &quot;If you like your health care plan you can keep it. No matter what. Period!&quot; without getting called out by the media??? Dozens.

The lie wasn&#039;t exposed by media attention until the citizens started feeling the pain with notifications in 2013 that their HC insurance would be cancelled in 2014. Why didn&#039;t the media read the ObamaCare law in 2010, see this coming and report this prior to 2013? Why was Obama allowed to use these lies to get re-elected in 2012? Why was the media asleep at the wheel? 

And now I find that the mega mainstream newspapers in the largest states aren&#039;t reporting about another ObamaCare scam: The confiscation of the estates of low-income 55-65 year old seniors on Medi-Caid (Medi-Cal) after they die to recover any and all monies spent by the government for their routine medical care. 

For all you liberals out there, here is an article from DK, so you can&#039;t accuse me of using conservative propoganda. Here is what Obama is doing to our seniors, without them even being made fully aware by the national media:

&quot;When a person is found to be eligible for Medicaid, they will be automatically enrolled into their state&#039;s Medicaid program. Those forced into Medicaid will, due to the federal law, also be forced into estate recovery. Their estates will be partly or fully taken over by the federal or state government when they die.&quot;

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/17/1248425/-Medicaid-Estate-Recovery-ACA-Unintended-Consequences#

So the old low-income folks 55-65 are FORCED into Medi-Caid or Medi-Cal and after they die the government swoops in and legally steals their estates to pay for every dime that was spent on them while under government medical care! lol. Yet the big private insurance subsidies are exempt from recovery. But one major surgery under Medi-Caid could cost $100,000 and the low-income senior&#039;s estate would get billed for the whole thing!!! That&#039;s not free health care. That&#039;s nothing but a clandestine loan!!! 

But those who collect food stamps or welfare never have to pay back a dime, even if they hit the lotto!!! lol.

This is so so wrong and needs national attention. 

Why isn&#039;t Brian Williams discussing this on the 6 o&#039;clock news???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it took long enough for the media to find out that ObamaCare was a farce. I thought the mainstream media&#8217;s job was to investigate, report and inform in a timely manner? </p>
<p>How many times was Obama allowed to spew his lie about &#8220;If you like your health care plan you can keep it. No matter what. Period!&#8221; without getting called out by the media??? Dozens.</p>
<p>The lie wasn&#8217;t exposed by media attention until the citizens started feeling the pain with notifications in 2013 that their HC insurance would be cancelled in 2014. Why didn&#8217;t the media read the ObamaCare law in 2010, see this coming and report this prior to 2013? Why was Obama allowed to use these lies to get re-elected in 2012? Why was the media asleep at the wheel? </p>
<p>And now I find that the mega mainstream newspapers in the largest states aren&#8217;t reporting about another ObamaCare scam: The confiscation of the estates of low-income 55-65 year old seniors on Medi-Caid (Medi-Cal) after they die to recover any and all monies spent by the government for their routine medical care. </p>
<p>For all you liberals out there, here is an article from DK, so you can&#8217;t accuse me of using conservative propoganda. Here is what Obama is doing to our seniors, without them even being made fully aware by the national media:</p>
<p>&#8220;When a person is found to be eligible for Medicaid, they will be automatically enrolled into their state&#8217;s Medicaid program. Those forced into Medicaid will, due to the federal law, also be forced into estate recovery. Their estates will be partly or fully taken over by the federal or state government when they die.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/17/1248425/-Medicaid-Estate-Recovery-ACA-Unintended-Consequences#" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/17/1248425/-Medicaid-Estate-Recovery-ACA-Unintended-Consequences#</a></p>
<p>So the old low-income folks 55-65 are FORCED into Medi-Caid or Medi-Cal and after they die the government swoops in and legally steals their estates to pay for every dime that was spent on them while under government medical care! lol. Yet the big private insurance subsidies are exempt from recovery. But one major surgery under Medi-Caid could cost $100,000 and the low-income senior&#8217;s estate would get billed for the whole thing!!! That&#8217;s not free health care. That&#8217;s nothing but a clandestine loan!!! </p>
<p>But those who collect food stamps or welfare never have to pay back a dime, even if they hit the lotto!!! lol.</p>
<p>This is so so wrong and needs national attention. </p>
<p>Why isn&#8217;t Brian Williams discussing this on the 6 o&#8217;clock news???</p>
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