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		By: fireofenergy		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-111186</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2015 15:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-111108&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Mark. How old is this post? I believe you said that there are NO measured effects of global warming. Actually, there is. The ppm CO2 is accelerating at 37 billion tons just last year alone and has increased by about 2.2 trillion tons in just 200 years. The scientist can&#039;t lie about those measurements. Actually, I didn&#039;t know about the 2.2 TT, I figured from 2.02 ppm in one year which us 37 BT, so easily figured from there.
Now, they have measured a rise in sea level but you can look that one up. Natural, non man caused results would be far too little to measure in such a short time period as a mere human lifetime. Instead, we would measure seasonal variability (like when Australia gets lots of rain).
Now, for the most important part. Getting people to realize that they should not fall religiously for an actual and global physics problem - only SCIENCE, and not political rhetoric can transition to nuclear, and even, mass machine automation of that other, less reliable stuff (to make them more reliable) especially batteries with a high ESOI.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-111108">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Mark. How old is this post? I believe you said that there are NO measured effects of global warming. Actually, there is. The ppm CO2 is accelerating at 37 billion tons just last year alone and has increased by about 2.2 trillion tons in just 200 years. The scientist can&#8217;t lie about those measurements. Actually, I didn&#8217;t know about the 2.2 TT, I figured from 2.02 ppm in one year which us 37 BT, so easily figured from there.<br />
Now, they have measured a rise in sea level but you can look that one up. Natural, non man caused results would be far too little to measure in such a short time period as a mere human lifetime. Instead, we would measure seasonal variability (like when Australia gets lots of rain).<br />
Now, for the most important part. Getting people to realize that they should not fall religiously for an actual and global physics problem &#8211; only SCIENCE, and not political rhetoric can transition to nuclear, and even, mass machine automation of that other, less reliable stuff (to make them more reliable) especially batteries with a high ESOI.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 05:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-94474&quot;&gt;Robert Bernal&lt;/a&gt;.

UM no sorry, global warming is a doomsday flood cult myth straight out of any religious script that demands repentance in the form of taxation for the &quot;sinners&quot; burning fossil fuels...it is not scientifically &quot;proven&quot;.  Computer models are not &quot;proof&quot; and the scientific method requires a repeatably testable hypothesis not conjecture.  We can&#039;t prove mankind&#039;s contribution since we have no control earth to compare to and by all indications of past times in the geologic history when it was warmer...warmer is better, so we really can&#039;t even claim a warming earth would be detrimental.  Quit drinking the Al Gore Koolaid please]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-94474">Robert Bernal</a>.</p>
<p>UM no sorry, global warming is a doomsday flood cult myth straight out of any religious script that demands repentance in the form of taxation for the &#8220;sinners&#8221; burning fossil fuels&#8230;it is not scientifically &#8220;proven&#8221;.  Computer models are not &#8220;proof&#8221; and the scientific method requires a repeatably testable hypothesis not conjecture.  We can&#8217;t prove mankind&#8217;s contribution since we have no control earth to compare to and by all indications of past times in the geologic history when it was warmer&#8230;warmer is better, so we really can&#8217;t even claim a warming earth would be detrimental.  Quit drinking the Al Gore Koolaid please</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-111107</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 05:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-61830&quot;&gt;Bill Gore&lt;/a&gt;.

it&#039;s totally driven by politics, fear of nukes, scientific illiteracy and the general lack of pragmatism of the political left who think putting up wind mills and solar panels is going to create magic power at 100 times the cost even when the wind doesn&#039;t blow or the sun doesn&#039;t shine.  These kooks demonize any viable power source because they hate humanity and believe the sea levels are going to rise and destroy the world due to our &quot;sins&quot; of using fossil fuels...complete hocus pocus and pseudo science.  Turn this plant back on, it is a valuable infrastructure resource!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-61830">Bill Gore</a>.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s totally driven by politics, fear of nukes, scientific illiteracy and the general lack of pragmatism of the political left who think putting up wind mills and solar panels is going to create magic power at 100 times the cost even when the wind doesn&#8217;t blow or the sun doesn&#8217;t shine.  These kooks demonize any viable power source because they hate humanity and believe the sea levels are going to rise and destroy the world due to our &#8220;sins&#8221; of using fossil fuels&#8230;complete hocus pocus and pseudo science.  Turn this plant back on, it is a valuable infrastructure resource!</p>
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		By: Robert Bernal		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-94474</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Bernal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-62685&quot;&gt;The Ted Steele Conceptual Abstraction Unit&lt;/a&gt;.

The steam tube in question is not really radioactive, whilst the replacement option IS more fossil fuels at night and even in the day should subsidy for solar be dropped. That means MORE people die AND increased excess CO2 which is also scientifically proven to cause ocean acidification and global warming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-62685">The Ted Steele Conceptual Abstraction Unit</a>.</p>
<p>The steam tube in question is not really radioactive, whilst the replacement option IS more fossil fuels at night and even in the day should subsidy for solar be dropped. That means MORE people die AND increased excess CO2 which is also scientifically proven to cause ocean acidification and global warming.</p>
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		By: fireofenergy		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-88810</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fireofenergy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-63033&quot;&gt;Wayne Lusvardi&lt;/a&gt;.

Or they could face the truth and fight excess CO2 (which is proven to be in an excess, now, for more than a million years and proven to actually lower the pH and even warm the oceans) with nuclear generated electricity, nuclear made clean fuels and even modular, factory produced reactors themselves! Nuclear waste is just a political nightmare exaggerated by the non scientific community because it can (and should) be recycled, and therefore, needs to be isolated (in a very much smaller volume) for 300 years (when it is LESS radioactive than the original ore).
I live in the USA and it is going backwards!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-63033">Wayne Lusvardi</a>.</p>
<p>Or they could face the truth and fight excess CO2 (which is proven to be in an excess, now, for more than a million years and proven to actually lower the pH and even warm the oceans) with nuclear generated electricity, nuclear made clean fuels and even modular, factory produced reactors themselves! Nuclear waste is just a political nightmare exaggerated by the non scientific community because it can (and should) be recycled, and therefore, needs to be isolated (in a very much smaller volume) for 300 years (when it is LESS radioactive than the original ore).<br />
I live in the USA and it is going backwards!</p>
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		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-88807</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the great article. Whilst solar and wind are questionable, because of their requirement for AT LEAST 70% FF backup, it makes all the sense in the world to develop most of the different and awesome variations of nuclear (and fix whatever problems)!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great article. Whilst solar and wind are questionable, because of their requirement for AT LEAST 70% FF backup, it makes all the sense in the world to develop most of the different and awesome variations of nuclear (and fix whatever problems)!</p>
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		By: Wayne Lusvardi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 16:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I went to elementary school I learned that some areas of the world that are now deserts where once tropical jungles and vice versa.  La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles was once a place teeming with dinosaurs and rich vegetation.  So there is no denying &quot;climate change&quot; even by the so-called climate change &quot;deniers.&quot; But this historical reality is not what climate change modelers are referring to. 

The engineers that built the hydraulic water system in the Southwestern U.S. so that water could be pumped uphill instead of restricted to gravity flow, knew quite well over 100 years ago what climate change is. Climate change is local, not so much global. Some regions experience drought (Texas, California) while others flood (Colorado). To construct modern civilization in the Southwestern U.S., water engineers designed a system to convey water from one region where there is water to another where there isn&#039;t enough water. Once again, there should be no denying this aspect of climate change. Once again this isn&#039;t what climate change modelers are referring to. 

What climate change modelers are referring to is global climate change induced by a greenhouse effect due to industrialization.  Their models are not falsifiable and thus are not science per se. But the climate change scientists have discovered the Pacific Decadal Oscillation which is nothing more than the Pacific Ocean temperature changes every 10 years and thus changes the amount of prceipitation California gets. 

Climate change is a term that attempts to take natural weather patterns and attribute it to the activities of humans, especially industrialization. This definition of climate change is not so much scientific as it is sociological. Those countermodernists who want to overthrow industrialization and go back to some bucolic past don&#039;t want nuke plants. This isn&#039;t a politically liberal phenomenon. Liberal France depends on 55 nuclear power plants.  

Climate change is really an ideology used in a regional trade war between Basin States like California with its air basin smog traps and Plains States like Texas that have abundant fossil fuels but no inversion layer smog traps. It is ironic that California wants to remove nuclear power plants that produce clean, cheap energy. Southern California&#039;s only nuke plant now is Palo Verde, which is in Arizona. Post-modern California does not want imported fossil fuel but doesn&#039;t want nuclear power as well. Texas depends on dirty coal as fuel for its Dallas power plants. But Texas doesn&#039;t have the air pollution problems that California has because they have a Plains topography where the solution to pollution is dilution. 

Norway is the 7th highest producer of oil and gas in the world. They now have amassed a trust fund of $1 million for each citizen from saving all the surplus revenues from oil development over the last 50 years. California could also amass such wealth if it wanted to by just exporting most of its fossil fuels like Saudi Arabia. The reasons California has not done so are due with its historical anti-industrial culture going back to when it battled the railroad monopolies. California&#039;s perpetual budget and pension problems are self-caused. It could be like Norway but has chosen to fight &quot;climate change&quot; and thus deny itself the wealth proceeds of industrialization and modernization.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I went to elementary school I learned that some areas of the world that are now deserts where once tropical jungles and vice versa.  La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles was once a place teeming with dinosaurs and rich vegetation.  So there is no denying &#8220;climate change&#8221; even by the so-called climate change &#8220;deniers.&#8221; But this historical reality is not what climate change modelers are referring to. </p>
<p>The engineers that built the hydraulic water system in the Southwestern U.S. so that water could be pumped uphill instead of restricted to gravity flow, knew quite well over 100 years ago what climate change is. Climate change is local, not so much global. Some regions experience drought (Texas, California) while others flood (Colorado). To construct modern civilization in the Southwestern U.S., water engineers designed a system to convey water from one region where there is water to another where there isn&#8217;t enough water. Once again, there should be no denying this aspect of climate change. Once again this isn&#8217;t what climate change modelers are referring to. </p>
<p>What climate change modelers are referring to is global climate change induced by a greenhouse effect due to industrialization.  Their models are not falsifiable and thus are not science per se. But the climate change scientists have discovered the Pacific Decadal Oscillation which is nothing more than the Pacific Ocean temperature changes every 10 years and thus changes the amount of prceipitation California gets. </p>
<p>Climate change is a term that attempts to take natural weather patterns and attribute it to the activities of humans, especially industrialization. This definition of climate change is not so much scientific as it is sociological. Those countermodernists who want to overthrow industrialization and go back to some bucolic past don&#8217;t want nuke plants. This isn&#8217;t a politically liberal phenomenon. Liberal France depends on 55 nuclear power plants.  </p>
<p>Climate change is really an ideology used in a regional trade war between Basin States like California with its air basin smog traps and Plains States like Texas that have abundant fossil fuels but no inversion layer smog traps. It is ironic that California wants to remove nuclear power plants that produce clean, cheap energy. Southern California&#8217;s only nuke plant now is Palo Verde, which is in Arizona. Post-modern California does not want imported fossil fuel but doesn&#8217;t want nuclear power as well. Texas depends on dirty coal as fuel for its Dallas power plants. But Texas doesn&#8217;t have the air pollution problems that California has because they have a Plains topography where the solution to pollution is dilution. </p>
<p>Norway is the 7th highest producer of oil and gas in the world. They now have amassed a trust fund of $1 million for each citizen from saving all the surplus revenues from oil development over the last 50 years. California could also amass such wealth if it wanted to by just exporting most of its fossil fuels like Saudi Arabia. The reasons California has not done so are due with its historical anti-industrial culture going back to when it battled the railroad monopolies. California&#8217;s perpetual budget and pension problems are self-caused. It could be like Norway but has chosen to fight &#8220;climate change&#8221; and thus deny itself the wealth proceeds of industrialization and modernization.</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, CEO		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-62967</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 14:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So a &quot;scientist&quot; says the old leaky nuke is safe enough, and the tea baggers believe him,  but 97% of the worlds &quot;scientists&quot; say man caused climate change, and the baggers don&#039;t believe them?


Hmmmmm

This seems fairly Rush-Like (tm)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So a &#8220;scientist&#8221; says the old leaky nuke is safe enough, and the tea baggers believe him,  but 97% of the worlds &#8220;scientists&#8221; say man caused climate change, and the baggers don&#8217;t believe them?</p>
<p>Hmmmmm</p>
<p>This seems fairly Rush-Like &#8482;</p>
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		By: The Ted Steele Conceptual Abstraction Unit		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-62685</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Ted Steele Conceptual Abstraction Unit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 22:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-62370&quot;&gt;fortibus85&lt;/a&gt;.

who wants to live near a nuke that &#039;s about to discharge into the atmosphere or water table because some techs made a miscalc about running the broken turbine at 75 or 76%-- lol--- answer----  not enough people to matter---

That nuke?

It&#039;s done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-62370">fortibus85</a>.</p>
<p>who wants to live near a nuke that &#8216;s about to discharge into the atmosphere or water table because some techs made a miscalc about running the broken turbine at 75 or 76%&#8211; lol&#8212; answer&#8212;-  not enough people to matter&#8212;</p>
<p>That nuke?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s done.</p>
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		By: The Ted Steele Conceptual Abstraction Unit		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-62684</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Ted Steele Conceptual Abstraction Unit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 22:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/03/scientist-says-no-reason-to-shut-down-san-onofre-nuke-plant/#comment-61726&quot;&gt;eck&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL--- it&#039;s doa little buddy!]]></description>
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<p>LOL&#8212; it&#8217;s doa little buddy!</p>
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