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	Comments on: Gov. Brown&#039;s budget largely ignores massive debt	</title>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64953</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 03:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yep. Teddy another misguided doomer we need to wear down like Dys and Hondo.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. Teddy another misguided doomer we need to wear down like Dys and Hondo&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, CEO		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64935</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, CEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 02:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Billy Bob will fit in right well here Mer. U-- I like him already!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy Bob will fit in right well here Mer. U&#8211; I like him already!</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64503</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 01:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-63562&quot;&gt;Steve Mehlman&lt;/a&gt;.

BTW, the UNFUNDED pension debts of both CalTURDS and CalSTRS are in a death spiral, under the 50% funded level, and IMO will not be able to recover-especially when all these 3%@50 pensions start flooding the system over the nest 30-40 years. 

The death spiral will simply not be able to be cured, it will actually get worse. CalSTRS is under 50% and cannot raise the contributions on its own. CalTURDS is also under 50% and CAN raise contributions, but if they do the member muni&#039;s will simply file BK, Detroit style, and that will be the end of it. Once one member muni is successful in filing BK and cutting the CalTURDS pension problem out of its future then all the others will only have to THREATEN to file BK, and the threat alone will force CalTURDS to renegotiate the pensions, going forward and ones already accrued.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-63562">Steve Mehlman</a>.</p>
<p>BTW, the UNFUNDED pension debts of both CalTURDS and CalSTRS are in a death spiral, under the 50% funded level, and IMO will not be able to recover-especially when all these 3%@50 pensions start flooding the system over the nest 30-40 years. </p>
<p>The death spiral will simply not be able to be cured, it will actually get worse. CalSTRS is under 50% and cannot raise the contributions on its own. CalTURDS is also under 50% and CAN raise contributions, but if they do the member muni&#8217;s will simply file BK, Detroit style, and that will be the end of it. Once one member muni is successful in filing BK and cutting the CalTURDS pension problem out of its future then all the others will only have to THREATEN to file BK, and the threat alone will force CalTURDS to renegotiate the pensions, going forward and ones already accrued.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64373</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 18:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-63923&quot;&gt;Ted Steele, CEO&lt;/a&gt;.

Teddy agreeing with himself, what a shock ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-63923">Ted Steele, CEO</a>.</p>
<p>Teddy agreeing with himself, what a shock 😉</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64149</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 07:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64032&quot;&gt;Ted Steele, CEO&lt;/a&gt;.

Teddy, can you please post a comment worth reading, you pollute just about every threads here ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64032">Ted Steele, CEO</a>.</p>
<p>Teddy, can you please post a comment worth reading, you pollute just about every threads here 😉</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64148</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 07:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-63939&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;The fact that so many so-called educated Americans have been brainwashed into believing that amnesty and spending billions of taxdollars on &lt;b&gt;unskilled illegal indigent foreigners&lt;/b&gt; is a good thing fascinates them.&quot;

We MUST protect OUR OWN citizens who lack high level skills from illegals who want to take those jobs and work them for peanuts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-63939">LetitCollapse</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;The fact that so many so-called educated Americans have been brainwashed into believing that amnesty and spending billions of taxdollars on <b>unskilled illegal indigent foreigners</b> is a good thing fascinates them.&#8221;</p>
<p>We MUST protect OUR OWN citizens who lack high level skills from illegals who want to take those jobs and work them for peanuts.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64146</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 07:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-63562&quot;&gt;Steve Mehlman&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;b&gt;The ‘dog will not be happy until all state spending is eliminated. And then you’ll bitch because it wasn’t done sooner&lt;/b&gt;

NO, what we, ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS, want is a way to get out of the $650 BILLION hole Davis, and the rest put us in]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-63562">Steve Mehlman</a>.</p>
<p><b>The ‘dog will not be happy until all state spending is eliminated. And then you’ll bitch because it wasn’t done sooner</b></p>
<p>NO, what we, ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS, want is a way to get out of the $650 BILLION hole Davis, and the rest put us in</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 06:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BillyBob.....CWD is a dignified respectable site.....a diverse mix of posters...some angry....some insane....others fair and balance....rarely ugliness.......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BillyBob&#8230;..CWD is a dignified respectable site&#8230;..a diverse mix of posters&#8230;some angry&#8230;.some insane&#8230;.others fair and balance&#8230;.rarely ugliness&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: billybs		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64096</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[billybs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 04:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Equity, equality must be the name of the state program to buy my house, subsidize my later years, and give some the American Dream while fornicating like rabbits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Equity, equality must be the name of the state program to buy my house, subsidize my later years, and give some the American Dream while fornicating like rabbits.</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/01/10/gov-browns-budget-largely-ignores-massive-debt/#comment-64090</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 03:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Teddy....BillyBob appears to have some issues with immigrants that do jobs Doomers won&#039;t do......where is the compassion and respect for hard working people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy&#8230;.BillyBob appears to have some issues with immigrants that do jobs Doomers won&#8217;t do&#8230;&#8230;where is the compassion and respect for hard working people.</p>
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