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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-74053</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 00:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73727&quot;&gt;Donkey&lt;/a&gt;.

What about the hundreds of NYC cops and firemen that have been busted lately for scaming the disability system? Never happens right!!  According to the allegations, police and firefighters falsely claimed stress-related illnesses to pocket tens of millions of dollars in disability benefits. 

  It&#039;s going on all over the RAGWUS!!  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73727">Donkey</a>.</p>
<p>What about the hundreds of NYC cops and firemen that have been busted lately for scaming the disability system? Never happens right!!  According to the allegations, police and firefighters falsely claimed stress-related illnesses to pocket tens of millions of dollars in disability benefits. </p>
<p>  It&#8217;s going on all over the RAGWUS!!  🙂</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73832</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 16:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73727&quot;&gt;Donkey&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, Donk. Once again, you&#039;ve proven yourself to be highly confident but completely incorrect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73727">Donkey</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, Donk. Once again, you&#8217;ve proven yourself to be highly confident but completely incorrect.</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73744</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 08:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He was just a crook.  Most public employees are honest and hard working.  Bob, what city is it where police sergeants make $300,000 yr?  That is certainly not the norm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was just a crook.  Most public employees are honest and hard working.  Bob, what city is it where police sergeants make $300,000 yr?  That is certainly not the norm.</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 05:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73714&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

It is nothing but an elaborate scam Skdog, I know it is, and if you have an ounce of integrity you know it is too. The truth is that you are probably sucking off the disability baton yourself.   :)]]></description>
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<p>It is nothing but an elaborate scam Skdog, I know it is, and if you have an ounce of integrity you know it is too. The truth is that you are probably sucking off the disability baton yourself.   🙂</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73691&quot;&gt;Donkey&lt;/a&gt;.

That is all very interesting, Donk, but none of it supports your claim that &quot;most law enforcement people retire on a disability retirement.&quot;  Nothing you posted supports your claim.  Even the Irvine officers making an injury claim didn&#039;t all get a disability retirement.  

Once a police officer or firefighter&#039;s injury is &quot;permanent and stationary&quot; - in other words, the injury has stabilized and is neither worsening nor improving in any significant way - the police department, fire department, etc., makes the decision of whether that employee can continue to perform the essential job functions required for their position.  If the illness or injuries prevent such performance, the law requires the department to file for a disability retirement on the employee&#039;s behalf.  The size and tax status of the pension depends entirely upon whether the injury/illness was job related or occurred outside of employment.

None of it is as simple as you seem to think, but that&#039;s pretty much normal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73691">Donkey</a>.</p>
<p>That is all very interesting, Donk, but none of it supports your claim that &#8220;most law enforcement people retire on a disability retirement.&#8221;  Nothing you posted supports your claim.  Even the Irvine officers making an injury claim didn&#8217;t all get a disability retirement.  </p>
<p>Once a police officer or firefighter&#8217;s injury is &#8220;permanent and stationary&#8221; &#8211; in other words, the injury has stabilized and is neither worsening nor improving in any significant way &#8211; the police department, fire department, etc., makes the decision of whether that employee can continue to perform the essential job functions required for their position.  If the illness or injuries prevent such performance, the law requires the department to file for a disability retirement on the employee&#8217;s behalf.  The size and tax status of the pension depends entirely upon whether the injury/illness was job related or occurred outside of employment.</p>
<p>None of it is as simple as you seem to think, but that&#8217;s pretty much normal.</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73666&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

Read and weep Skdog:  CalPERS offers two types of retirement benefits if a worker is disabled. In &quot;industrial disability retirement,&quot; the &quot;disability is due to a job-related injury or illness&quot;; in contrast, &quot;disability retirement&quot; implies that the disability was not necessarily caused by employment.[95] The specific benefits vary by employer, by the contract between CalPERS and the employer, and by the employee&#039;s occupation.[95]

Two major controversies have affected CalPERS&#039; disability retirement and industrial disability retirement program over the years. First, in the mid-1990s and again in the mid-2000s there were concerns about inappropriate industrial disability retirement for public safety personnel, including:[96][97]
Some non-disabled persons fraudulently claim industrial disability retirement, such as &quot;a &#039;disabled&#039; highway patrol officer riding in a rodeo.&quot; Unfortunately, &quot;state law forbids Calpers from requiring disabled retirees who are 50 or older to submit to another medical evaluation, even if there is evidence of possible fraud&quot;.[98]
&quot;A series of bills that expanded eligibility for these medical pensions - and made it easier to get them&quot; increased costs for state and local governments.
The list of &quot;disabilities automatically presumed to be job-related for public-safety workers&quot; has grown to include diseases and conditions that may or may not be caused by employment, such as lower back pain, heart disease, cancer, syphilis, HIV, and mad cow disease.
Retirees can receive two safety disability retirements for the same condition if they are covered by two separate pension systems.
  &quot;The Irvine Police Department has the county&#039;s highest disability retirement rate for a large city since the department was created in 1975. Sixty of 99 officers who have retired since the department was formed claimed to be injured or ill. Crime statistics show Irvine to be one of the safest cities in the nation.&quot;

    &quot;Small police departments show a higher ratio of disability retirements, in large part because they have less room to provide light duty for injured or ill workers. Buena Park police, with 93 sworn officers, had a disability ratio of 62 percent over the last 5 ½ years – five of eight officers retiring took disability.&quot;

  &quot;Former Irvine police officer Gregory R. Allen took a disability retirement in May 1996 after a back injury from an on-duty motorcycle crash. He gets $40,320 annually in disability retirement from Irvine.

But he didn&#039;t stop working.

In 1998, he took a job with the Los Angeles Public Defender&#039;s Office as an investigator. In 2006, he joined the O.C. sheriff&#039;s department, passing all the agency&#039;s physical tests.

Today he is a motorcycle officer in Lake Forest; the sheriff&#039;s department pays him $114,000 per year, on top of his disability pension.

&quot;That&#039;s the epitome of double-dipping that makes Californians crazy,&quot; Pellissier said. &quot;That&#039;s the poster child for abuse.&quot;

   LE does all it can to hide these figures!!  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73666">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>Read and weep Skdog:  CalPERS offers two types of retirement benefits if a worker is disabled. In &#8220;industrial disability retirement,&#8221; the &#8220;disability is due to a job-related injury or illness&#8221;; in contrast, &#8220;disability retirement&#8221; implies that the disability was not necessarily caused by employment.[95] The specific benefits vary by employer, by the contract between CalPERS and the employer, and by the employee&#8217;s occupation.[95]</p>
<p>Two major controversies have affected CalPERS&#8217; disability retirement and industrial disability retirement program over the years. First, in the mid-1990s and again in the mid-2000s there were concerns about inappropriate industrial disability retirement for public safety personnel, including:[96][97]<br />
Some non-disabled persons fraudulently claim industrial disability retirement, such as &#8220;a &#8216;disabled&#8217; highway patrol officer riding in a rodeo.&#8221; Unfortunately, &#8220;state law forbids Calpers from requiring disabled retirees who are 50 or older to submit to another medical evaluation, even if there is evidence of possible fraud&#8221;.[98]<br />
&#8220;A series of bills that expanded eligibility for these medical pensions &#8211; and made it easier to get them&#8221; increased costs for state and local governments.<br />
The list of &#8220;disabilities automatically presumed to be job-related for public-safety workers&#8221; has grown to include diseases and conditions that may or may not be caused by employment, such as lower back pain, heart disease, cancer, syphilis, HIV, and mad cow disease.<br />
Retirees can receive two safety disability retirements for the same condition if they are covered by two separate pension systems.<br />
  &#8220;The Irvine Police Department has the county&#8217;s highest disability retirement rate for a large city since the department was created in 1975. Sixty of 99 officers who have retired since the department was formed claimed to be injured or ill. Crime statistics show Irvine to be one of the safest cities in the nation.&#8221;</p>
<p>    &#8220;Small police departments show a higher ratio of disability retirements, in large part because they have less room to provide light duty for injured or ill workers. Buena Park police, with 93 sworn officers, had a disability ratio of 62 percent over the last 5 ½ years – five of eight officers retiring took disability.&#8221;</p>
<p>  &#8220;Former Irvine police officer Gregory R. Allen took a disability retirement in May 1996 after a back injury from an on-duty motorcycle crash. He gets $40,320 annually in disability retirement from Irvine.</p>
<p>But he didn&#8217;t stop working.</p>
<p>In 1998, he took a job with the Los Angeles Public Defender&#8217;s Office as an investigator. In 2006, he joined the O.C. sheriff&#8217;s department, passing all the agency&#8217;s physical tests.</p>
<p>Today he is a motorcycle officer in Lake Forest; the sheriff&#8217;s department pays him $114,000 per year, on top of his disability pension.</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s the epitome of double-dipping that makes Californians crazy,&#8221; Pellissier said. &#8220;That&#8217;s the poster child for abuse.&#8221;</p>
<p>   LE does all it can to hide these figures!!  🙂</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73565&quot;&gt;Donkey&lt;/a&gt;.

I see, you have taken the lawyer, or I should say, the RAGWUS view of stealing.

  Like Jefferson said many times: &quot;The law is often the tyrants will.&quot;

  Adams knew what he was doing was illegal. He was the hired muscle and had no qualms implementing Rizzo&#039;s RAGWUS at every turn. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73565">Donkey</a>.</p>
<p>I see, you have taken the lawyer, or I should say, the RAGWUS view of stealing.</p>
<p>  Like Jefferson said many times: &#8220;The law is often the tyrants will.&#8221;</p>
<p>  Adams knew what he was doing was illegal. He was the hired muscle and had no qualms implementing Rizzo&#8217;s RAGWUS at every turn. 🙂</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Donkey.  You&#039;re simply wrong once again.  Most retiring law enforcement officers and firefighters do not apply for or receive a disability pension.  Your claim is both incorrect and another ridiculous attempt to smear those individuals and groups.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Donkey.  You&#8217;re simply wrong once again.  Most retiring law enforcement officers and firefighters do not apply for or receive a disability pension.  Your claim is both incorrect and another ridiculous attempt to smear those individuals and groups.</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 03:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73600&quot;&gt;Donkey&lt;/a&gt;.

You are totally misinformed Skdog, or maybe lying all those years just becomes a part of a cops psyche muck like a Pavlovian Dog,  most in LE take the disability route so that half their over fattened pension can remain tax-free, it&#039;s all a part of the RAGWUS spiking plan. 

    Just Google thieving public safety crooks of California and you will see thousands of articles. Or try this one from the OCR, Public safety disability system &#039;ripe for abuse&#039;.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73600">Donkey</a>.</p>
<p>You are totally misinformed Skdog, or maybe lying all those years just becomes a part of a cops psyche muck like a Pavlovian Dog,  most in LE take the disability route so that half their over fattened pension can remain tax-free, it&#8217;s all a part of the RAGWUS spiking plan. </p>
<p>    Just Google thieving public safety crooks of California and you will see thousands of articles. Or try this one from the OCR, Public safety disability system &#8216;ripe for abuse&#8217;.  🙂</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/17/malkenhorst-epitome-of-government-service/#comment-73565&quot;&gt;Donkey&lt;/a&gt;.

Because he wasn&#039;t stealing.  He was an unethical and greedy bastard, but he didn&#039;t break any laws.]]></description>
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<p>Because he wasn&#8217;t stealing.  He was an unethical and greedy bastard, but he didn&#8217;t break any laws.</p>
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